I don't think we will find a buyer and we will be stuck with him.
Pogba Future
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
Obviously wants to go to madrid, have they got any players realistically we could exchange if they cant afford the £150m fee, and players that arnt Isco who i think hasnt got ball recycling desire pretty much like Pogba.
Any good young prospects, id definatly try and wrangle Casimero
Any good young prospects, id definatly try and wrangle Casimero
Not anymore for me. It is all about Man United handling this in its best interest (huge fee when sold and reinvesting in the squad).
Everyone gains from selling him
It's not important in the grand scheme of things. There are bigger challenges than those that United cannot offer to him and other attractive projects better prepared to do something now not for 5 years later. The club is rebuilding from scratch and doesn't expect to do anything significant in the near future. Maybe in 2-3 years maybe longer. No use for world class player in his prime.
My biggest concern is not fully reinvesting the £150 million we’re going to get.
Obviously, I don’t expect a like for like replacement, but we need think of a new system and improve the first 11 in other key positions.
Obviously, I don’t expect a like for like replacement, but we need think of a new system and improve the first 11 in other key positions.
Varane + Casimiro
We HAVE to get a quality player back in return, not enough time to reinvest that money and fill all of the holes in our line up.
My understanding is that Varane has no intention to move. Earlier in the window, I would have gone for Casemiro and Odriozola plus cash, but with the purchase of Wan Bissaka it now makes no sense. If Juvenuts are still interested I wouldn't be against Bentancur + Dybala.
My concerns exactly.
We’ve lost Herrera & are losing Pogba; are Bruno & Longstaff really adequately recruitments when we already needed a midfielder with these 2 at the club.
The misdirection here is first class. We’ve offloaded Herrera’s wage, are about to offload Pogba & will be replacing them with 2 cheaper [not as good] players.
If we took whatever Pogba money we get & added that to these transfers I’d be all for it.
I think Bale could surprise you if you do get him.
Yep, agree about the misdirection. Bruno and longstaff in exchange for pogba and Herrera is extremely bad business.
Don't get me wrong I know the market has inflated since we purchased him, but really what has Pogba shown at Utd since his £89 mil fee to warrant it nearly doubling? I have to say I think £150 mil is too high, realistically what other players right now would command a fee of £150 million? Hazard and Greizman have gone for less and both are more productive (I know contract situation was different).
If we genuinely do not want to sell then sticking a £150 mil tag on is fine, our I do not want to sell it price, but if reports are to be believed that we are actually open to a sale then surely it has to be less.
I reckon we would be lucky to £120 mil, a return + then some on our investment for a player who has failed to shine and who has been overwhelmingly unimpressive since he came to utd.
I would be keen to see some player swaps not that they ever happen but we need players, just because they do not fit at Juve or in particular Real does not make them bad players, Real in particular have some excellent players that do not make their first team or are on the periphery.
To be honest would love Pogba to go to Real but that is just out of spite, he will get short shift there and he will fall out with the fans.
If we genuinely do not want to sell then sticking a £150 mil tag on is fine, our I do not want to sell it price, but if reports are to be believed that we are actually open to a sale then surely it has to be less.
I reckon we would be lucky to £120 mil, a return + then some on our investment for a player who has failed to shine and who has been overwhelmingly unimpressive since he came to utd.
I would be keen to see some player swaps not that they ever happen but we need players, just because they do not fit at Juve or in particular Real does not make them bad players, Real in particular have some excellent players that do not make their first team or are on the periphery.
To be honest would love Pogba to go to Real but that is just out of spite, he will get short shift there and he will fall out with the fans.
If he's off to Real then Bale is probably coming to United. Management will love the marketing ops despite the likelihood of the player spending 1/3 to 2/3 of the season injured.
Perhaps Bale can conjure up a few match-winning performances along the way, enough to boost the club into top four.
Perhaps Bale can conjure up a few match-winning performances along the way, enough to boost the club into top four.
I wouldn't be overly annoyed about that. I wouldn't shell out for him, but if he came along with a fair chunk of cash for Pogba and Real covering most of his wages I'd be quite happy with that. Although if we're getting anyone I'd prefer Asensio.
The only outcome of all this shite that would actively piss me off is Pogba somehow getting a new contract he has done nothing to earn.
While I want him to feck off for the right money, we essentially would be losing 3 midfielders - Pogba, Herrera and Fellaini.
And we haven't signed a single midfielder yet...
And we haven't signed a single midfielder yet...
Because Pogba IS the problem.
So, in your opinion... a club is willing to keep a player that might disrupt the dressing room, not give 100%, not sign a new contract, and ultimately might leave on less value since 2 years left on contract. Rather than sell now on a little discount and make a decent amount (£120mil). I find that decision very naive and badly calculated from the club.
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Darmian is the perfect example. The guy has barely played and the club would rather continue paying wages and hogging up a roster spot over a few extra million pounds. Just get rid of him.
Losing Herrera is the only 1 that bothers me. Fellani shouldn't have been anywhere near a United starting 11 of the last decade, and Pogba for all his brilliance has an attitude problem.
Pogba was the fulcrum of the french team during the world club, even today they don't have another midfielder as good as him. Still, don't think Pogba would sabotage a whole season, he needs to play successfully to keep his status as a top player for marketing reasons.
Overall i don't get the problem here. Tell Pogba he's here for another two seasons. He won't play poorly for the time being, because not one of the better clubs would touch him afterwards.
I don't trust the scouts to replace him propely atm. Longstoff or that Portuguese would be very underwhelming instead of Pogba, IMO.
If we want to do a cash plus player exchange let’s do business with Juventus instead of Madrid. I’d rather Dybala/Pjanic than anyone from Madrid.
He's the only person that had the balls to stand up to Pogba and try to put him in his place. Even though he was an extensive signing of his. The thing is, Jose just absolutely doesn't suffer poor attitude, if more people at the club were like that then I guarantee we wouldn't be in this mess.
Didn't Sarri already say that Dybala is not going to be transferred?
Considering the signing of Ramsey and Rabiot, I can see Juve offering Pjanic as part of Pogba deal. We should be rejecting it straight away though.
Considering the signing of Ramsey and Rabiot, I can see Juve offering Pjanic as part of Pogba deal. We should be rejecting it straight away though.
Could've said the same about selling Ronaldo at the time...
It depends greatly on how the money is reinvested.
I was indeed talking about the best case scenario. The club worries a little, I'm just hopeful I guess
I don't want Real to get their way.
And I hate his agent.
Make him play out his contract.
And I hate his agent.
Make him play out his contract.
And Matic is done. Fred is an uncertainty at this point and McTominay, whilst decent, should be a squad option at best.
Yeah, we need a new midfield pretty much.
I just think his performances have been underwhelming, we did not expect Ronaldo or Messi like performances goals etc... but i did expect him to raise the standard of players around him. He really didnt do that for me he could make a great pass but he also didnt show for the defence and allowed runners off him in midfield.
It has been said that he needs better players around him, but i saw progress and more team spirit when he wasn't on the pitch.
We need to get as much as.possible and if that means keeping him unhappy on a bench then so be it. He needs to have to ask for a transfer and all the money to go to.
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I want him to leave too. We don't have the necessary tools to make best of world class players and it's better not to waste time on failing projects.
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Isn't he supposed to be back with the team?
He loves attention is what I'm getting from a vid like that.
What Ole has to say in a manufactured interview and privately might be different. He could have been reined in by Woody for all we know. We cant get rid of a lot of the dross in one go as we wont get much money for them anyway, and have a big hole in the squad so it has to be done slowly. If we shift 4-5 on (and 2 have already gone), then thats as much as I would expect. Darmian, Rojo, Pogba maybe Lukaku would be my guess. Jones Smalling Young will probably get another
Matic was the one that most needed replacing out of the first choice three. He might be the only one we keep...
You can't deny that regardless of his mentality or consistency, Pogba is our most creative player by a country mile, and the only one who is world class on his day. So yes, he definitely needs replacing.
Fellaini offered a viable plan B. I don't mind letting him go, but we need someome who offers an alternative option when things are not going well.
With Matic on his last legs, Fred still unproven at this point, we are left with Scott McTominay, Andreas and maybe Mata. That is a depressing midfield.
Not our problem just more unlikely that he will leave this summer
not wearing number 6 i see. subtle message?
It's been said before... he's a virus. Get him gone if he doesn't want to be at OT. total arse