Reminded me of this from Jose - "How to alienate your players 101"
Pogba on the differences between Ole & Mourinho
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That former manager used to criticise the team and club all the time while he actually was manager
Incredible.
Yeah I don’t doubt there’s an element of that to it, but either way it strikes me as a player who is letting loose and breaking unspoken rules which again suggests he isn’t planning to stick around.
This isn’t me having a go at Pogba by the way, just an observation.
Jose has brought all of this upon himself
I wish we'd never hired him. Complete ill suited to Manchester United
Once Jose leaves Spurs I don't see him getting another job in this country. Maybe Italy now.
They are playing this evening, so it could be pretty quick. Sky will prod him into a retort.
To be fair I think that's often the case in sports media. Journalists don't have a lot to go off so take any soundbite they can get
Naturally Jose will respond in some cryptic manner of his.
Especially in sports, where everyone has been professionally drilled in how to avoid saying anything of any interest.
6 match ban, bringing the game into disrepute coming
Be nice to see Everton thump Spurs and in the post match interview they ask Mourinho about Pogba.
Souness back in the studio would top it off.
It's funny isn't it. Jose left us nearly two and a half years ago, I would say Pogba saying a few words on him now is fair game. Jose hasn't wasted an opportunity to take a shot at Pogba or Ole in public over the years so I can see no issues with this at the club.
What will happen though, is Jose won't waste an opportunity to fire back at Pogba and Ole, and it's at this point the club would advise Pogba not to get involved in a back and forth.
Most likely but against a side managed by David fecking Moyes?You sure it wasn't Jose just being a coward trying not to lose?
Interesting theory though. Wouldn't put it past Jose.
Anyways I am pretty sure caf was convinced of this theory at the time.
Mourinho’s career at top clubs is dead at this point
I think attitude towards people and empathy are the biggest traits that separate the two. Cut them to the core and they are not so different. I see two men with integrity, principles and their own sense of what is right and wrong. They both want similar things, they care about their club. They just have a wildly different approach.
You could come home to Ole and he would sit you down, hold both your hands, look you in the eyes and ask you about your day. He would listen intently, nod along and not once offer his opinion or tell you what you should have done differently. He would cook dinner and draw you a hot bath. You’d sit down to watch Midsummer Murders and not once would Ole guess who the perpetrator was, nor hazard their motive. Afterwards he would lead you upstairs and make gentle love to you, ensuring you had enough money the next day for groceries. All your needs would be met. You know you are loved.
Mourinho on the other hand would have already ordered the groceries. He would have paid for a string of personnel to aid around the house. Gardeners, cleaners, chefs, personal shoppers and assistants, you name it. He would come home, ask you about your day, he would hear and he would listen, but he would do so whilst opening letters or reading his phone. He would distantly instruct you to get dressed to go out and take you to a Michelin starred restaurant for dinner. From here though he would flicks a switch. He would put everything to the side and make the whole two hours just about you. You would remember why you married this man. After finishing your coffee he would take you home. And here lies the crux of the Mourinho enigma. He is hard, yet tender, he will take care of you in the bedroom, but at times roll all over you like a steam train. You’ll either love this and accept this, or you will fight against it. You are a Mourinho player or you are not.
You could come home to Ole and he would sit you down, hold both your hands, look you in the eyes and ask you about your day. He would listen intently, nod along and not once offer his opinion or tell you what you should have done differently. He would cook dinner and draw you a hot bath. You’d sit down to watch Midsummer Murders and not once would Ole guess who the perpetrator was, nor hazard their motive. Afterwards he would lead you upstairs and make gentle love to you, ensuring you had enough money the next day for groceries. All your needs would be met. You know you are loved.
Mourinho on the other hand would have already ordered the groceries. He would have paid for a string of personnel to aid around the house. Gardeners, cleaners, chefs, personal shoppers and assistants, you name it. He would come home, ask you about your day, he would hear and he would listen, but he would do so whilst opening letters or reading his phone. He would distantly instruct you to get dressed to go out and take you to a Michelin starred restaurant for dinner. From here though he would flicks a switch. He would put everything to the side and make the whole two hours just about you. You would remember why you married this man. After finishing your coffee he would take you home. And here lies the crux of the Mourinho enigma. He is hard, yet tender, he will take care of you in the bedroom, but at times roll all over you like a steam train. You’ll either love this and accept this, or you will fight against it. You are a Mourinho player or you are not.
I like to see this stuff to be honest. Bit of openness rather than just boring media trained responses.
Hardly news though Jose is a cnut and to be honest Pogba is a little bit too. His recent good form has made us all forget that a little. Hopefully he's gone in the summer but if not he needs to prove himself.
Hardly news though Jose is a cnut and to be honest Pogba is a little bit too. His recent good form has made us all forget that a little. Hopefully he's gone in the summer but if not he needs to prove himself.
I think that Spurs was his make or break situation
Mournho is a cnut of the highest order and the only thing he will do to you in bed is take off his condom and blame you for getting pregnant.
Well said
I saw all the hot takes, big headlines, drama queening. Then watched the video and wondered just what all the fuss was about, such manipulation of media, its quite impressive.
As a man that is not so much of a risk for me or our relationship.
That was the absolute worst. He should have been fired on the spot
I started off this thread in a good mood and now I'm getting fecking annoyed after being reminded of all the cnutty things he did.
How in the feck did he think that was in any way helpful for a young player's development or squad harmony? It's insane
This has made my fecking day! Pogba absolutely bodying the grumpy twat Moaninho. 
Mou is a tactical manager. He believe in a certain system and he sees players as simple cogs working in that system. These managers tend not to spend too much energy working on player's relationships as they see them as expendable. Once their system become obsolete than things tend to collapse very quickly and tragically.
Ole is a man manager. His focus is on the players not on tactics. These people need to surround themselves with more tactical people (ex Dolcetti for Allegri etc) to succeed. On the other hand players tend to go through a brick wall for them.
Sir Alex excelled in both. He was a superb man manager but knew his tactics very well. He also surrounded himself with people who could challenge him on the latter which further made him a force of nature.
In my opinion the modern manager need to be a man manager first and tactically savvy second.
Ole is a man manager. His focus is on the players not on tactics. These people need to surround themselves with more tactical people (ex Dolcetti for Allegri etc) to succeed. On the other hand players tend to go through a brick wall for them.
Sir Alex excelled in both. He was a superb man manager but knew his tactics very well. He also surrounded himself with people who could challenge him on the latter which further made him a force of nature.
In my opinion the modern manager need to be a man manager first and tactically savvy second.
We've not go to the jaw droppingly awful quotes stage from Jose about his Spurs players yet, but they'll come. When you look back at the crap he said about our team its astonishing how any player would trust him again.
Pogba is such a smart lad, he knows the meltdown is almost ready to explode all over Spurs and he is just putting a bit of gasoline on the fire.
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You have Ornstein saying he was taken aback and calling them 'jaw-dropping' comments. Give over
Sad isn't it.
Nowadays with the sizes of coaching staffs and the ability to find specialists in everything, a great manager is more likely to be a man manager and in that sense I think that you are correct. It's easier to find someone that will help you find tactical or technical solutions then find someone that will make you not look and sounds like an ass when you have to deal with other members of your staff or your players.
No this one still takes the cake
Somehow still had countless fans defending him at the expense of the club even after he took a steaming dump on the clubs name to shield himself
The thing I always remember as the height of Mourinho's shitness for us was how he deliberately waited for the media to be at the training ground and then did his big power play of giving Pogba a dressing down and telling him he'd never captain us again. It was such a blatant attempt to use the media to destroy one of our own players it was disgusting, and he should have been dragged into the offices and fired the next morning. The 'You know why now' comment not far behind, throwing Rashford and Martial under the bus.
Pogba, more than anyone else, is well within his right to give a little bit back.
Pogba, more than anyone else, is well within his right to give a little bit back.
Having Mourinho as a manager of United was like having Darth Vader marrying your daughter. How the hell people are still beliving in the Mourinho hype? Yes he was good in the past but the fact is that Madrid sacked him, Chelsea sacked him, Man Utd sacked him and I think he will not last long at Spurs. The same story in each of his last 3 clubs were he created a toxic atmosphere and creating conflict and losing the trust of the players. Fergie did alway´s think ahead and did not spend time admiring his past achivements but started to plan for the next season. Mourinho is quick to talk about his past but how long is it now since he was at his best?