So if Poch won't come another option is Simeone. Ridiculous, 2 of them are completely different managers. Not to mention Simeone's style.
[Poll] Next permanent United manager
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I'm sure you will get a ton of one word responses to this, but here is my take for what it is worth.
I think being a highly rated coach and becoming a manager of a premier league football team, let alone Manchester United is a crazy jump.
Managers need to learn their trade. They also need to be nurtured. How many people in the general world go from the lower levels of a company, skip 10 steps and become a Managing Director? Football seems to be one of the few places this kind of stuff happens.
I think, when people look at Guardiola and his passage at Barca they see a model there. Fair enough but they don't necessarily see the work that went in, the way he was tied into the fabric and nurtured at that club and...beyond all...the fact that is was the exception.
Managers should be moulded, given the chance to make mistakes and learn from them, I wouldn't say this is the level to do that, especially given the instability of the club. Howe would be a more sensible choice in that regard, and I think that is too big a jump by a mile to be honest.
I get that people want young, dynamic and enthusiastic managers that can play attractive football, after all the last 2 approaches have been for proven coaches with a winning pedigree...and it turned very sour. We would certainly need to be guarded against going too far the other way IMO.
I think being a highly rated coach and becoming a manager of a premier league football team, let alone Manchester United is a crazy jump.
Managers need to learn their trade. They also need to be nurtured. How many people in the general world go from the lower levels of a company, skip 10 steps and become a Managing Director? Football seems to be one of the few places this kind of stuff happens.
I think, when people look at Guardiola and his passage at Barca they see a model there. Fair enough but they don't necessarily see the work that went in, the way he was tied into the fabric and nurtured at that club and...beyond all...the fact that is was the exception.
Managers should be moulded, given the chance to make mistakes and learn from them, I wouldn't say this is the level to do that, especially given the instability of the club. Howe would be a more sensible choice in that regard, and I think that is too big a jump by a mile to be honest.
I get that people want young, dynamic and enthusiastic managers that can play attractive football, after all the last 2 approaches have been for proven coaches with a winning pedigree...and it turned very sour. We would certainly need to be guarded against going too far the other way IMO.
I voted poch but dont believe hell leave spurs in the summer. So will change my vote.
Hopefully ole turns out incredible and eases to a champions league and makes it all simple
Hopefully ole turns out incredible and eases to a champions league and makes it all simple
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can anyone link me to the polls on here for who RedCafe wanted to replace LvG?
Just interested to see what I and the collective voted back then
Just interested to see what I and the collective voted back then
Why would he be linked? He does not have the connection to the club he has with Arsenal and has zero experience as a manager.
If he was able to do as you say which I hope, I think he could do a good job here. Sign Koulibaly up with Milenkovic and we could be good.
I really hope Andreas makes it good here as I think he could become something special and Pogba has so much talent I think he just needs the right manager to get it out of him.
I'm not sure why great assistant coaches can't be considered for managerial positions. Especially if they have mastered one domain. Happens in other sports all the time.
I see City giving him a shot once Pep leaves.
Most managers start off as assistants.
Richard Keys knows nothing.
Never won anything, never had big egos squad to deal with, never had such a crap squad to meet such high expectations with.
I don't know why people want him, it's another Moyes waiting to happen.
Why? Di Matteo won the Champions League for Chelsea, & not surprisingly because of that was given a permanent role. Unfortunately, it soon became clear he wasn't up to the task. You need more than a few months, particularly when someone has no real pressure & nothing to lose, to assess their suitability for the role.
Another Moyes?
Yes... as opposed to Jose who had won almost everything, dealt with big egos and spent over 400m on the squad... oh wait. Fortune favours the bold.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/poll-next-manager-after-lvg.401672/ I don't know if there's another poll.
I would have laughed my tits off had Arsenal hired him last summer so no
This thing with, "He gets the club" has to stop.
It doesn't make a successful manager
It doesn't make a successful manager
This looks like the biggest poll that was done 2.5yrs ago: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/redcafes-official-next-manager-poll.414994/
64% Jose
17% Poch (inc. me!)
7% Simeone
4% Giggs
so all those who voted for Jose have only yourself to blame for where we are now @Alock1 @Annihilate Now!
I'm sold on Poch. He does tick all the boxes apart from winning a trophy.
I voted for Pep mate
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Music to my ears
Is Keys a PA or something?
Good to know i voted for Simeone. I always was against Jose, couldnt warm up to him, especially after his Real and Chelsea stints.
I voted Poch too.
Oh they are 2 different polls, and it was after Pep was announced by City and Klopp was already at Liverpool.
In which case, I'd stand by that decision.. i've never criticised Woodward for picking Mourinho in the first place as it was clear we needed someone who knew how to win at that point (he'd won the PL less than a yeaf before the poll..) and Poch was a bigger gamble.
Shouldn't Blanc be on the list too? The club already considered him for the caretaker role but perhaps he didn't want to take it now?
Zidane as sporting director, Jardim as manager?
It may be the case, but real Madrid need a bigger rebuilding job than united in my opinion. They are at a point where united were after ucl victory and post ronaldo sale.
Pochh will not get much time at Madrid after what they have managed to achive prior to that. Also it's no longer a case when real madrid can come in and get whoever they want. The inflation almost assures that. How is pochh supposed to fulfil an expectations of a side who need a new striker, a new no , 7 and replacement for ramos soon, a replacement for modric perhaps, marcelo is on a downhill bale is almost on sale list pretty soon. How can pochh replace these many players in few windows at madrid?
I personally think zidane can get more from this group of players than pochh can. Some of these players just won't be able to pull off pochh style.
Opinion hasn't changed. Pochettino.was always the better fit.
If Jardim, Blanc or Zidane are among the top candidates I do not understand the move to install OSG now. In that case we would have wasted half a year that could have already been used to start the transformation.
So my guess is that the top candidates do have a valid appointment right now.
So my guess is that the top candidates do have a valid appointment right now.
If we get Poch or Zidane i'll be absolutely elated although Poch is my first choice.
I voted for Tuchel and didn't want Jose anywhere near the club..
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Managed to play great attacking football with different clubs; vastly improves both the team and individual players
Managed to play great attacking football with different clubs; vastly improves both the team and individual players
I think poch and the club's philosophy on young players and ambitions are much better suited personally.
I'd prefer Allegri. A winner, has handled big clubs before (AC + Juve) and will put PP in his place.
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