saik
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When will Caf give us the option to give a player 0 rating?? Why should the least be 1?
Not only the clubs, even the leagues are on the banterThat’s one way to win the league!!
Under LvG, we got smacked for 3 in 30 minutes at the Emirates.This was a vintage man utd performance if you became a fan in the last 9 years
and Brighton last season 4-0 or what was it. The 1-6 vs Spurs was also only possible in a fantasy world until it happenedUnder LvG, we got smacked for 3 in 30 minutes at the Emirates.
We're obviously progressing (downwards), as now it's Brentford who are mauling us and even adding a 4th.
Have you forgotten the 4-1 against Watford who are now in the Championship? The match which finally got Ole sacked. We've had some right bangers in the previous season.and Brighton last season 4-0 or what was it. The 1-6 vs Spurs was also only possible in a fantasy world until it happened
So much words trying to say that DDG wasn’t fecking up an easy save.
Looking at this first goal, it's easy to blame De Gea. Sure it's a shot he should and most of the time would save, but like any keeper this kind of blunder does happen. The point is what's going on before this goal. Ronaldo receives the ball surrounded by Brentford players. He's struggling to maintain possession; Bruno who was busy directing his teammates as the throw-in was coming in actually RUNS AWAY from Ronaldo, the player who was behind Bruno is now free to intercept the ball which he does, winning possession and then passing to Dasilva.
Ronaldo struggling to hold onto the ball running on to it with a player infront and behind him, and Fred and Bruno decide the winning move is to run away from him to a position that he cannot see.
Fred as a holding midfielder doing that and leaving that much space is absolutely criminal. Or perhaps they've been coached to do that: if Ronaldo drops deep, they're to push up to stop the opposition back-line from collapsing on them and boxing them in. Although the fact Fred was subbed off at halftime would indicate otherwise.
Pause the video when DaSilva receives the ball. There's no united player within 15 yards of him and he's within shooting range. That's a mistake that will get punished more times than any team can afford.
These kinds of issues are nothing to do with the keeper, you swap him for the most inform goalie in the world and you're still gonna have these problems. Keane alluded to Bruno's attitude a while ago implying he was buying into his own hype and doing too much talking. That a player has that much room to shoot 10 minutes into a game is the real problem.
From the moment DaSilva receives the ball you can see he's got one thing in mind. At no point does he lift his eyes away from the ball, he's gonna shoot, you can see it a mile away. Yet Martinelli makes a lacklustre attempt to close him down, he should be flying at him fully committed, in the end it's a half-hearted tackle, Dasilva gets the shot off and scores.
DeGea held his nerve for years but sometimes when you see so much obvious stuff going wrong right in front of you it's hard to keep your spirit applied.
Edit: Also as the shot's going in there's a player sprinting into the box, if De Gea spills it, he gets to it first because Maguire who's stood right behind him and can see what he's doing doesn't react with nearly the same commitment. It's just too easy to blame one person for this. This is a collective effort.
Me too! I was so fecking excited, watched all the preseason games live for the first time in ages too. Man this club surely knows how to sap any bit of joy.I remember a week ago when I was looking forward to the new season, good times.
Good observation. The first goal has a lot to do with how we setup and was not down to just the obvious Goalkeeping error. Ronaldo in that position wasn't ideal as he isn't really that press resistant but the gap between Eriksen and Bruno/Fred who were playing the advanced MF role was way too much.
Looking at this first goal, it's easy to blame De Gea. Sure it's a shot he should and most of the time would save, but like any keeper this kind of blunder does happen. The point is what's going on before this goal. Ronaldo receives the ball surrounded by Brentford players. He's struggling to maintain possession; Bruno who was busy directing his teammates as the throw-in was coming in actually RUNS AWAY from Ronaldo, the player who was behind Bruno is now free to intercept the ball which he does, winning possession and then passing to Dasilva.
Ronaldo struggling to hold onto the ball running on to it with a player infront and behind him, and Fred and Bruno decide the winning move is to run away from him to a position that he cannot see.
Fred as a holding midfielder doing that and leaving that much space is absolutely criminal. Or perhaps they've been coached to do that: if Ronaldo drops deep, they're to push up to stop the opposition back-line from collapsing on them and boxing them in. Although the fact Fred was subbed off at halftime would indicate otherwise.
Pause the video when DaSilva receives the ball. There's no united player within 15 yards of him and he's within shooting range. That's a mistake that will get punished more times than any team can afford.
These kinds of issues are nothing to do with the keeper, you swap him for the most inform goalie in the world and you're still gonna have these problems. Keane alluded to Bruno's attitude a while ago implying he was buying into his own hype and doing too much talking. That a player has that much room to shoot 10 minutes into a game is the real problem.
From the moment DaSilva receives the ball you can see he's got one thing in mind. At no point does he lift his eyes away from the ball, he's gonna shoot, you can see it a mile away. Yet Martinelli makes a lacklustre attempt to close him down, he should be flying at him fully committed, in the end it's a half-hearted tackle, Dasilva gets the shot off and scores.
DeGea held his nerve for years but sometimes when you see so much obvious stuff going wrong right in front of you it's hard to keep your spirit applied.
Edit: Also as the shot's going in there's a player sprinting into the box, if De Gea spills it, he gets to it first because Maguire who's stood right behind him and can see what he's doing doesn't react with nearly the same commitment. It's just too easy to blame one person for this. This is a collective effort.
Disagree. Put Kante and De Jong and we would have won. Put 3 decent midfielders and we at the very least wouldn't be battered 4-0Did I say we sorted our midfield out? My point is the focus has been the midfield is the problem, you put anyone in that midfield today and it’s the same outcome.
Yep. Ralf was the only one since Jose that I believed totally understood the situation. Unfortunately the owners decided not to back Jose or Ralf as it meant they would have to spend alot of money.You should have heeded RR recommendation there ETH. The man maybe not a good manager but was absolutely spot on. I can only laugh at this stage.
Unless a miracle happens next week... We better get comfortable!Oh shit, we are literally bottom of the league. Yikes.
We had 70pc possession though. Shocked the running gap wasn't bigger based on that simple fact109 km for Brentford, 95 km for United. Each Brentford player covered, on average 14.7 % more ground than United players. Damning.
That’s b@ll@cks but go on….What is frightening is that Brentford are and we’re shit. Their pressing was shit despite the fuking commentators wetting themselves, they couldnt string more then 4 passes together and they allowed us plenty of time on the ball around their area. They were muck and yet beat us by 4.
Brighton looked like prime Barcelona against us but showed once again today that they are no more than a decent side at best.
god fuking help us when a top side gets hold of us. It will be 5 at the back time and pray for mercy. We are a mess.
On that I don't understand. Rangnick came in mid of season with a half baked coaching team, but ETH has a full preparation, in fact an extra week better than Liverpool's. Why our squad looked so unfit.Just watching the highlights there and I couldn't help but notice that, even though it was very hot, Brentford's players ran and ran, wanted to win every ball and competed like lions. Each Brentford player won their individual battle. You could argue that they may not have been able to keep that up for 90+mins in that heat, but the point is they didn't need to. We simply don't have the players to either press or cope with being pressed. We looked half as fit as Brentford. Luke Shaw in particular reminds me of myself playing six aside.
It's not only football though, mate - it's our team. It ruined the weekend for most people on here - me included.Completely ruined my Saturday. Ashamed to say it as well as it’s only fecking football. I don’t want to go to bed because I’m still so disappointed. Fecking hell.
It's crazy really how glaringly obvious the massive clear out and buy in was and is, and this should have been obvious to ETH at the start of the Summer. With a little under 2 weeks to go until the window closes and not looking even remotely like signing FDJ, if our transfer quota remains as it is, this will be the worst transfer Summer performance we have had since the Premier League began given how desperately we need quality players. In all my years watching United, I have never seen a situation like this where so many first team starters need to go. It's both mesmerizing and bewildering how this only seemed to be obvious to those outside the decision making realm of Manchester United.You should have heeded RR recommendation there ETH. The man maybe not a good manager but was absolutely spot on. I can only laugh at this stage.
I was at a family event so I didn't watch it, but my phone never stopped buzzing with the mockeryDidn't watch the match because I had something to do. I'm glad I didn't.
Stuart Attwell