Huge miss.
Terrible fluffing of a simple pass to Kane for a tap in.
Numerous other missed passes.
Woeful player.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Terrible fluffing of a simple pass to Kane for a tap in.
Numerous other missed passes.
Woeful player.
He's a fecking sociopathKane thinks he had won the ball
No we wouldn't.
Kane scored and we all think he's looking like a carthorse.
If you watch it back, Alisson is way over to the left of his goal. Ali kicks it to his side. If he had looked up he could have directed it to the other corner.
That sort of tackle with that force happens a few times a game, it just looks bad because he misses the ball (he's basically trying to get the ball by going through him). Most of the time the players nicks the ball and its a foul but not even a yellow, unless it's an accumulation of fouls. The force simply isn't an issue.
Ok. Doesn’t matter, does it? I’m not questioning any intent or what he wanted to do, I just don’t understand why the less worse ‘offence’ got referred to the VAR screen.
That’s what I thought but Sky Sports are talking as if he’ll only miss one - the EFL Cup game.
I think most during the match thought both tackles were red card worthy. VAR certainly inconsistent
It doesn't even seem like we're watching the same footage. Carragher just said he went in on the player with no intention of playing the ball.
He just boots him yet you keep claiming it was some kind of tackle. Do you really think it was as a genuine attempt to win the ball?
He survived so he can talk shit now. He wouldn't be laughing it off if he had been shown red, which he deserved. That was a straight red, no question. Just shows how awful the VAR refs in English football are.
Arguably the game of the season so far although Man. City-Liverpool was pretty good two months back.
Liverpool are best team to watch in the league no doubt. I do think however they'll just drop too many points over season in these type of pinball matches whereas Man. City are better at soaking up pressure and cold blooded in how they win games so as I said a few days ago I think it will be repeat of 18/19 with Chelsea falling away now.
Liverpool are best team to watch in the league no doubt. I do think however they'll just drop too many points over season in these type of pinball matches whereas Man. City are better at soaking up pressure and cold blooded in how they win games so as I said a few days ago I think it will be repeat of 18/19 with Chelsea falling away now.
The same reason players get sent off for tiny kick outs that cause no danger. You simply can’t run up to someone and boot them as hard as you can.
Kane tackle wasn’t great - but it was part parcel of the game, let’s be honest, with shin pads it doesn’t hurt.
Robertsons was reckless, he tried to be a sly cnut and got sent off. It’s not that hard really. He tried to be the big man and cost his team
Last season it wouldn’t have stood, per the rules this season the goal rightfully was given.
If Salah's handball is deemed unintentional
Yeah, which I think the majority of observers would agree with. There was no VAR was going to turn It over
Yeah I only saw that rule change after, its hard to keep up with all the hand ball changes.
Yeah it’s a bit weird, as is the inconsistency over red card challenges
Agreed VAR wouldn't turn it over, but not sure you wouldn't get a free kick for that handball in the middle of the pitch
Watch it in both real time and slow motion and for me Robertson tries to play the ball and the Spurs player turns to block him. For me, it's nothing more than a yellow. Kane on the other hand slides cleats first which is a foul even if he plays the ball first. He doesn't and clattered the player in the shin and only gets a yellow. I'm okay if both are yellows but now way Robertson's foul should receive harsher punishment. Never mind the museed penalty foul.
Just seen Kane's tackle. Can't believe it wasn't a red.
Yeah I have no clue on the Kane one to be honest. I could see someone like Xhaka walk for that 9 out of 10 times. The Robertson one is weird, there have been a few for swipes like that recently, Kyle Walker got one in the CL a couple of weeks ago (and hasn't been seen since, maybe Pep killed him)
If you're only considering the new handball rule then it should stand.
However, it would fall under making his body unnaturally larger, which I think he did which is why it should've been ruled out.
In my view, he's guilty of the second offence.
Robertson didn't try and play the ball, everyone who plays football has both given them as they got older and received them when they were young and quicker. Its a "I'll kick this cnut here" tackle. Kanes was dangerous and should totally be a red but Kane tried to play the ball (in the worst possible way), Robertson knew exactly what he was doing, I've done it a ton of times myself playing Sunday League when up against someone quicker(where its usually just a warning)
Reckless challenges challenges are not punished with a sending off. It had to be deemed dangerous.
Excessive force certainly applied here
Agree with the Robertson excessive force calls, definitely think the frustration spilled out and it was a stupid challenge
I can see the argument you’re making, but at least for me the arm isn’t in an unnatural position or an attempt to make himself bigger.
I can see the argument you’re making, but at least for me the arm isn’t in an unnatural position or an attempt to make himself bigger.
He was superb.Redknapp claiming Winks as MOTM
Saw all the Spurs fans coming out to play again and knew they got a result
Yes. The Spurs player blocked him from playing ball which he is entitled to do as as he is considered in possession but that means Robertson was looking to play the ball and not the man which is why in my opinion it's not a dangerous foul and shouldn't get a red card.
Then surely Kane's challenge was excessive force and he led with his studs.
No doubt about it, think very few people argue that wasn't a red.
I think everyone’s in agreement that Kane should have been sent off.
Kane isn't.
He quite literally just boots him full force.
Think about what you're saying.
You can't just go to absolutely welly the ball in all situations and not be able to amend your movement if the player is suddenly in the way.
It was a typical Robertson lash out, and for once he's not got away with snide behaviour.
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Even Klopp was fine with the Robertson red.
What? Handball is handball, it even looked like he did it deliberately / moved his hand towards it along with his leg to control.
VAR is only problematic in England. The rest of Europe most VAR decisions are very sensible and the system largely works to expectation.
Well there you have it. Although, I don't think any of the Liverpool fans even claimed it wasn't a red.