Protest planned before Norwich game

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War in Ukraine. Thousands dying and dead. Women and children being raped. Possible start of World War III.

But yeah, let's protest about football. The potential of finishing 8th in the EPL... the horrors...

The self of self entitlement is shocking. Yes. We might finish 8th. Actually, I think we will. But the Glazer's aren't totally to blame: The fans wanted rid of Moyes. Done. The fans wanted rid of LVG. Done. The fans wanted rid of Jose. Done. The fans wanted rid of Ole. Done.

On the face of it, the fans keep getting what they want and yet they still bitch and whine.

No wonder the players think they can rule the roost. All they have to do is down-tools, look like they've never kicked a football in their life, the manager will blamed by the fans. Fired.

Rinse and repeat.

But fine. If fans want to protest against the Glazer's. Fine. By all means.
Feck this pseudo-moralistic bullshit.

This time around, the players should be jeered at for 17th mins. Come up with some creative jeers to slag them off. Bunch of overpaid pansies.
 

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This protest is necessary. The owners, unsurprisingly, have not upheld their promise to enable fans to own shares in the club with the same voting rights as the Glazer family. Zero progress has been made on that front.

If they thought we were going to forget they (Woodward mostly) spearheaded the ESL fiasco, they were mistaken.
 

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i think the best protest would be to fill the ground and for everyone to just sit in silence for the full 90 minutes. it would gain a lot of media traction and it’s unlikely to fail as the players will not give anyone anything to cheer about during the 90 minutes any way.
 

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The players won't give a shit either, you can boo them all you want, they'll continue to half arse their way to running down their contracts.
The only way is to stop renewing contracts and start offering the new recruits contracts that they deserve instead of having players like Martial on heavy wages.
 

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Waste of time. Ed Woodward was our biggest problem, and Ed Woodward is gone.

The Glazers will continue to make funds available, as they have for about a decade now.

With 'football people' running the club, we'll see progress over the next 2/3 seasons
 

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This place is thread after thread of posters moaning on an Internet forum about how shit it is to watch United on a shitty stream getting beat week after week. Surely match going fans that make the effort and spend huge amounts to actually travel to the game and support their team are right in trying to do something about getting their club moving in the right direction instead of just moaning on the internet. Good on them.
 

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Glazers are not the problem (yes, they take dividends every year).
We have the highest spent for the last decade. More than Real, Barca, BM, City and Liverpool.
They have also committed to improve the club's infrastructures.

The problem was the management team he entrusted especially our dear Ed.
We have an accountant who ran our football club disastrously making every rookie mistakes you can think of for the last 8 fecking years.

The current team, Arnold delegates the football side to Murtough. Early days but it seems not much improvement from the previous team.
They brought in a gegenpressing interim coach only to completely abandon the philosophy 3 months in.
They have also completely abandon the plan of laying foundation for next season high intensity football.
Now the players jog around the pitch match after match.

Who is calling the shots to implement a system and stick to it for long term benefit to the club?
What do you mean they are not the problem? They installed the accountant to run the club not like a football club. Of course they are the problem. Btw, the spending, well that's them throwing the club's money around - it's of no consequence to them at all.
 

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Maybe the crowd should cheer every time a player actually runs and boo every time they do the old man "jog" at the speed just above a walking pace that is so loved by many of our Players.
 

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This place is thread after thread of posters moaning on an Internet forum about how shit it is to watch United on a shitty stream getting beat week after week. Surely match going fans that make the effort and spend huge amounts to actually travel to the game and support their team are right in trying to do something about getting their club moving in the right direction instead of just moaning on the internet. Good on them.
Wrong. You're part of the problem if you go to games, apparently.
 

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Protests are pointless and meaningless, just there to help massage the ego's of those who turn up, nothing more than that.

They achieve no notable changes at the club at all, because they are not set up to do so.
People go to them to be seen doing so, to film themselves, or to have others film them, or photograph them being there, thus getting likes or clicks for themselves.

Protests won't mean anything to the Glazers sat in America.
Protests won't help to find a suitable buyer for the club.

We are talking about a person or group that has access to about 6 or 7 billion pounds, perhaps even more than that all told (money to convince the Glazers to sell, money for either upgrade or build a new Old Trafford, money for our own women's team stadium, money for transfers for the women's and men's sides etc etc).

The Glazers have all of the power here, a few people not going into the stadium for a few minutes after kick off, will make zero difference to them.
People letting off flares outside the ground, whilst looking good perhaps on camera, will again, have zero affect on anything the Glazers do.

People stopping people going into the physical Megastore, again pointless as the online one is still active.

Fans are just numbers on a balance sheet to the owners, that will not change, no matter how self important some people think they are by getting involved in protests.

I get the cathartic nature of them, and how it helps to exercise a lot of pent up frustrations that a fair few people have, fair enough, but just don't expect them to lead to any changes, that is all, because there simply won't be any.
 

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Protest at the players for lack of effort and fight this season - they are 100% the problem right now.
Spend the first 17 minutes booing every single touch by United players. Then chant ‘Attack, attack, attack’ and sarcastically cheer every pass.
Players are taking the piss and we turn on everyone but them.
This completely. They are the ones making a mockery of ST holders and fans around the world who love the club. The players are making us a laughing stock and the butt of all jokes every week in work places around the country.

The regular fans are being made to look like mugs, spending large sums of money on travel, food & drink, merchandise all whilst there's a cost of living crisis that none of those players will feel. For some match goers the game represents a chance for the team to go out on the pitch and bring some joy in what is a pretty miserable moment for our society. We show support week in and out and the players barely put in a shift. They take it for granted because they know fans like myself, love the club and will turn up. All we want is commitment and a drive to at least try.

If anyone should be booed it's the players not the Glazers. Woodward is gone, a new manager is coming in, and a new structure is being put in place. So I'm not sure what booing the Glazers is meant to achieve in all honesty...

As for the players it might send a rocket up their arse..
 

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Is it because Norwich have yellow and green colors and this way it would seem there would be more protesters than usual :wenger: ?

War in Ukraine. Thousands dying and dead. Women and children being raped. Possible start of World War III.

But yeah, let's protest about football. The potential of finishing 8th in the EPL... the horrors...

The self of self entitlement is shocking. Yes. We might finish 8th. Actually, I think we will. But the Glazer's aren't totally to blame: The fans wanted rid of Moyes. Done. The fans wanted rid of LVG. Done. The fans wanted rid of Jose. Done. The fans wanted rid of Ole. Done.

On the face of it, the fans keep getting what they want and yet they still bitch and whine.

No wonder the players think they can rule the roost. All they have to do is down-tools, look like they've never kicked a football in their life, the manager will blamed by the fans. Fired.

Rinse and repeat.

But fine. If fans want to protest against the Glazer's. Fine. By all means.
The stupidity of this post :lol:, the war in Ukraine isn't the only first and only one raging in the world and won't be the last one either.
 

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Will this same energy be applied to the dossers on the pitch I wonder? No doubt they will get clapped down the tunnel.
 

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Glazers are not the problem (yes, they take dividends every year).
We have the highest spent for the last decade. More than Real, Barca, BM, City and Liverpool.
They have also committed to improve the club's infrastructures.

The problem was the management team he entrusted especially our dear Ed.
We have an accountant who ran our football club disastrously making every rookie mistakes you can think of for the last 8 fecking years.

The current team, Arnold delegates the football side to Murtough. Early days but it seems not much improvement from the previous team.
They brought in a gegenpressing interim coach only to completely abandon the philosophy 3 months in.
They have also completely abandon the plan of laying foundation for next season high intensity football.
Now the players jog around the pitch match after match.

Who is calling the shots to implement a system and stick to it for long term benefit to the club?
So the Glazers are the problem. Heh.
 

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I really don't know what there is to protest anymore. The Glazers arent going anywhere, the players are simply not putting in the effort and we are not getting 4th spot. We have been through all of this before. We can boo the players and after years of supporting this team Im for that.
 

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It's a shame that our fanbase is so divided on this. Surely doing something is better than doing nothing.

As for those saying the Glazers aren't the problem, sure they gave Ed money to spend which he messed up, but the main reason we're so far behind our rivals is the lack of investment in the structure of the club. We've been left behind when it comes to our training facilities, youth facilities, our stadium etc and these things have a massive impact on the way we play.

Having empty seats, even for 17 minutes, will get media coverage which is the best way to get the Glazer's attention.
 

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The Glazers have reneged on the agreement to sell shares in the club to the fans.

Should we do nothing and ignore that?
No no no, but this now and like that is not the way to go. We are in midst of war and club-wise in the middle of major reworks - the worst possible time to arrange a protest.
 

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Can’t help but think these protests are only taking place now because we are doing so poorly.
 

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War in Ukraine. Thousands dying and dead. Women and children being raped. Possible start of World War III.

But yeah, let's protest about football. The potential of finishing 8th in the EPL... the horrors...

The self of self entitlement is shocking. Yes. We might finish 8th. Actually, I think we will. But the Glazer's aren't totally to blame: The fans wanted rid of Moyes. Done. The fans wanted rid of LVG. Done. The fans wanted rid of Jose. Done. The fans wanted rid of Ole. Done.

On the face of it, the fans keep getting what they want and yet they still bitch and whine.

No wonder the players think they can rule the roost. All they have to do is down-tools, look like they've never kicked a football in their life, the manager will blamed by the fans. Fired.

Rinse and repeat.

But fine. If fans want to protest against the Glazer's. Fine. By all means.
Is Ukraine the new Godwin? My Lord, you're saying there's more important things going on on a football/Man Utd fan forum? Were you on the shitter when you got this epiphany?
 

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War in Ukraine. Thousands dying and dead. Women and children being raped. Possible start of World War III.

But yeah, let's protest about football. The potential of finishing 8th in the EPL... the horrors...

The self of self entitlement is shocking. Yes. We might finish 8th. Actually, I think we will. But the Glazer's aren't totally to blame: The fans wanted rid of Moyes. Done. The fans wanted rid of LVG. Done. The fans wanted rid of Jose. Done. The fans wanted rid of Ole. Done.

On the face of it, the fans keep getting what they want and yet they still bitch and whine.

No wonder the players think they can rule the roost. All they have to do is down-tools, look like they've never kicked a football in their life, the manager will blamed by the fans. Fired.

Rinse and repeat.

But fine. If fans want to protest against the Glazer's. Fine. By all means.
Why are you posting on a forum when there's a war in Ukraine?
 

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War in Ukraine. Thousands dying and dead. Women and children being raped. Possible start of World War III.

But yeah, let's protest about football. The potential of finishing 8th in the EPL... the horrors...

The self of self entitlement is shocking. Yes. We might finish 8th. Actually, I think we will. But the Glazer's aren't totally to blame: The fans wanted rid of Moyes. Done. The fans wanted rid of LVG. Done. The fans wanted rid of Jose. Done. The fans wanted rid of Ole. Done.

On the face of it, the fans keep getting what they want and yet they still bitch and whine.

No wonder the players think they can rule the roost. All they have to do is down-tools, look like they've never kicked a football in their life, the manager will blamed by the fans. Fired.

Rinse and repeat.

But fine. If fans want to protest against the Glazer's. Fine. By all means.
I don't get how Ukraine is correlated. I m sure the fans won't protest in favor of Russia.
 

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Protests need to be regular and visible. I'm not against it but if it isn't regular (every week as opposed to once every couple of months) and is outside the stadium (away from any cameras) then I can't see it gaining traction. If it is going to happen the protesters need to ensure it has some specific media coverage (perhaps they have I'm not sure) and it is done peacefully and regularly enough to begin to turn heads. If not, nothing will change.
 
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It's weird how some people here are against protests. The club has been mismanaged for years and the Glazers are ultimately responsible. It's not just about spending money, it's about making sure we have people around the club that know what they're doing. A peaceful protest is the best way I can think of to express our frustration.
 

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Protest the players for sure

Protest the owners for going back on their word and presiding over yet another terrible season. It’s not just about investing in the squad. It’s about decisions and who they employ. The infrastructure. Getting things done in a timely fashion. Letting them know the fans will hold them accountable so things never slip again like they have over the last 10 years
 

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Shouldn't we protest not to play the game cos we will only lose and get embarrassed again.
 

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I'm sure ETH will look at this and see a massively stable club he wants to join
 

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No one cared about protesting when the club went and signed Ronaldo, Varane and Sancho. No one would care about protesting if the team were top of the league by 15 points.

As soon as the managers and players are underperforming, the fans want to protest about the owners. I just don't understand the point.

Protest all of the time if you care about actually getting rid of the Glazers, not just after bad results and a bad season.

Protesting after bad results should be about protesting against the players who are underperforming.

I want the owners gone but this season cannot be blamed on them surely.
 

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It's a shame that our fanbase is so divided on this. Surely doing something is better than doing nothing.

As for those saying the Glazers aren't the problem, sure they gave Ed money to spend which he messed up, but the main reason we're so far behind our rivals is the lack of investment in the structure of the club. We've been left behind when it comes to our training facilities, youth facilities, our stadium etc and these things have a massive impact on the way we play.

Having empty seats, even for 17 minutes, will get media coverage which is the best way to get the Glazer's attention.
The most effective protest would be to not buy tickets or attend games. It would need to be 10s of thousands doing so and that’s never going to happen.
 

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No one cared about protesting when the club went and signed Ronaldo, Varane and Sancho. No one would care about protesting if the team were top of the league by 15 points.

As soon as the managers and players are underperforming, the fans want to protest about the owners. I just don't understand the point.

Protest all of the time if you care about actually getting rid of the Glazers, not just after bad results and a bad season.

Protesting after bad results should be about protesting against the players who are underperforming.

I want the owners gone but this season cannot be blamed on them surely.
That's not true.

Are you forgetting the protests against the ESL proposal last year, the one that our club spearheaded? That took place when we were playing as well as we have for years and only a couple of weeks before the EL final.
 

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Always happy to back any protest against the ownership.

Not sure why you lads are getting all upset on here, it's not like any of you would go anyway.
 

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i think the best protest would be to fill the ground and for everyone to just sit in silence for the full 90 minutes. it would gain a lot of media traction and it’s unlikely to fail as the players will not give anyone anything to cheer about during the 90 minutes any way.
The way we are playing, that is highly likely.
 

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Glazers are not the problem (yes, they take dividends every year).
We have the highest spent for the last decade. More than Real, Barca, BM, City and Liverpool.
They have also committed to improve the club's infrastructures.

The problem was the management team he entrusted especially our dear Ed.
We have an accountant who ran our football club disastrously making every rookie mistakes you can think of for the last 8 fecking years.

The current team, Arnold delegates the football side to Murtough. Early days but it seems not much improvement from the previous team.
They brought in a gegenpressing interim coach only to completely abandon the philosophy 3 months in.
They have also completely abandon the plan of laying foundation for next season high intensity football.
Now the players jog around the pitch match after match.

Who is calling the shots to implement a system and stick to it for long term benefit to the club?
Would you have taken Ralf and then Erik over Conte in November?
 

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Glazers are not the problem (yes, they take dividends every year).
We have the highest spent for the last decade. More than Real, Barca, BM, City and Liverpool.
They have also committed to improve the club's infrastructures.

The problem was the management team he entrusted especially our dear Ed.
We have an accountant who ran our football club disastrously making every rookie mistakes you can think of for the last 8 fecking years.

The current team, Arnold delegates the football side to Murtough. Early days but it seems not much improvement from the previous team.
They brought in a gegenpressing interim coach only to completely abandon the philosophy 3 months in.
They have also completely abandon the plan of laying foundation for next season high intensity football.
Now the players jog around the pitch match after match.

Who is calling the shots to implement a system and stick to it for long term benefit to the club?
The non football part of the club are perfectly happy to let the owners act as a Lightning Rod for every one else total incompetence.
No I don't like the owners at all.
But it is the people who are actually managing the club that are the real problem.

Some people might look at Newcastle United for example and say, look what has happened since they had new owners.
But the real improvement has come from Eddie Howe and the changes he has made.
 

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The non football part of the club are perfectly happy to let the owners act as a Lightning Rod for every one else total incompetence.
No I don't like the owners at all.
But it is the people who are actually managing the club that are the real problem.

Some people might look at Newcastle United for example and say, look what has happened since they had new owners.
But the real improvement has come from Eddie Howe and the changes he has made.
Stick to Bristol Rovers mate.