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You're not even reading my posts now. I said it was a dive, I said it shouldn't have been a penalty.
That cross he whipped in was really good. Still cannot believe people are blaming him here. The need for a scapegoat on this forum is amazing.
He didn't put his forearm into Varney's back. He put his forearm to Varney's right arm, who then changes direction making his back face Rafa. Rafa at the same time puts his left hand up to show he's not doing anything and Varney then dives. The angle made it look like he put his forearm to Varney's back, but it didn't happen.
Exactly! And the referee made his decision in real time.
He raised his left arm to try and get past Varney. That's what triggered the dive and that's the contact which convinced Clattenburg it was a pen.
To me it looks as though he's using his arms to run faster, and Varny just moves in front of him to instigate the most obvious dive ever. Diving 101, go infront of player and fall.
It was definitely a dive.
Blackett was there to cover. I really don't think much would have come of it.
Indeed he was. However he still had to do his defensive job and try put pressure on Vardy, he didnt tackle, block or trip him, in fact I dont think he touched Vardy.
I never said he charged him in the back, I said he charged after him. There is a difference. There was a noteable aggression in the way he went after Vardy, like he'd been wronged and was out to get revenge. There might not have been a lot, if anything, in his challenge on Vardy but you could tell as soon as he was back on his feet he was going to give away a penalty somehow. Such indiscipline I can't recall seeing in any other Premier League fullback, certainly not ones that have played as many games as Rafael. The guy just isn't good enough as far as I'm concerned.
Sorry mate but you're wrong. Rafael has matured so much to when he first joined United. He's still an aggressive player which is vital in his game considering he's not the biggest player, but over the years Rafael has learned when to leap into challenges or not and its been awhile since he's done a rash challenge. During Bayern Munich game last year, one of the best wingers in the world Ribery struggled get through him and pulled off terrific tackles and Ribery started getting angry with him.
I think his performance in general was good considering it was only his second game of the season.
The last thing in the world I want is for Rafael to think its fine to do the same thing next time he's in the same situation. At the very least I want him to recognise that he's making it easy for punks to dive on him.
It's more than a little concerning that you could say the exact same thing about three of our arguably first-choice back four.
And with Shaw on the other side we could be sorted in that area of the pitch for years to come, we aren’t as bad off in defence as we have been lead to be believe.
I assume the other two are Shaw and Jones?
Retaliated? WTF?
Agree with this, having a consistent back four was something Fergie was lucky to have for the majority of his United career. So far Moyes and van Gaal have not had that luxury, if we can get the injuries under control and get a settled back four, I truly believe we will be fine in that area.
I was thinking about Evans and Jones actually. Arguably Smalling too, although he's more lack of concentration and injuries, rather than the rashness injury/combo.
Clattenberg is an egotist who likes to make eye-catching decisions. If he sends off a United player it creates a fuss. He's got a history of doing so. Rafael was an easy target. Shit decision, made to portray himself as The Big Man.
Yeah you're right about Shaw actually, I just assumed you were including him in the potentially world class bracket. I'm a fan of Evans but he'll never be at that level for me, a very good player but never likely to be an especially great one. Nor Smalling really. I'm more so hoping we've found a gem in Rojo than anything. It would be a good start if we, you know, played him in the fecking middle of the defense.
I can honestly say I've never seen Rojo play in the centre of defence, I'm hoping come the weekend we will see how good he can be there against a physcial West Ham side. All our hopes seemed to be pinned on him being a success in there.
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In Vardy's post match interview he said that Leicester had been briefed to exploit all that space before the game. That graphic perfectly illustrates the acres of room behind our fullbacks for Leicester to run into. After conceding two or three goals in very similar fashion, you'd have hoped that the penny would drop and we'd do something to shore up our flanks. What's that they say about the definition of idiocy?
Exactly. I know the defenders are getting most of the flack but ultimately as a unit, we were poor and nothing was changed to combat that. Plus having 3 of very much the same players (Rooney, Falcao &RVP) playing in the same space, is leaving us exposed in those areas we looked poor in.
I know. Crazy. Two of those players are more or less identical!
They were all playing the same space, easy to think there was two RVP's out there
Very similar to Lahm getting shoved in the back by Podolski when Arsenal played Bayern last season. Staying down didn't do him any favours.
