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I'm sure he's as annoyed as us. Quit the insults.

We do desperately need cover and competition for Rafael and I expect Van Gaal to bring somebody in as early as January.
Makes me wish we still had Fabio, to be honest.
 

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At this point I'm starting to wonder about trade-offs between training sessions that keep players match fit versus increased injury risk. I just don't hear about players getting hurt in practice as much in American Football or basketball.
 

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Chambers would have been a good investment in the summer.

We should go for Dani Alves or any other avaliable right back in January, we just can't count with Rafael for a season.
 

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Two of Jones, Smalling, Evans and Rafael aren't going to make it here, imo.
 

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For all the moaning about our training regimes, why is it that it's always the usual suspects that picks up knocks in trainings?

Jones, Rafael, Smalling, Evans.
 

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Players like Dani Alves, with nothing left to prove other than how much money they can make in their 30s, really aren't the kind of signings we should be making, for what it's worth.
 

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Players like Dani Alves, with nothing left to prove other than how much money they can make in their 30s, really aren't the kind of signings we should be making, for what it's worth.
Xabi Alonso plays for Bayern Munich like he has won nothing at all in his career so.........

If Dani Alves would join QPR then i agree with you.....but a move to us can give players like Dani Alves a "new life"
 

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At this point I'm starting to wonder about trade-offs between training sessions that keep players match fit versus increased injury risk. I just don't hear about players getting hurt in practice as much in American Football or basketball.
I think they do get hurt, but those sports, particularly American Football, seem to have greater scope for playing with a knock, than football does. It takes something pretty catastrophic to keep an American Footballer out (ex. torn ACL.)
 

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Would people be incline to agree with me that he's in need of proper competition for the RB spot? I have really tried to defend his inconsistency but it's getting really tough now.
 

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Would people be incline to agree with me that he's in need of proper competition for the RB spot? I have really tried to defend his inconsistency but it's getting really tough now.
I don't know how the competition is going to help him with his injuries - and apart from them he is one of our best and most consistent performers. What do you mean by inconsistency?
He needs a decent cover though
 

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Sometimes I almost feel depressed when I see these threads being bumped right before a match. Just gutted to see yet another defender go down with an injury in training.

Rafael was critical to our attack/defence and really provided us with a presence on the right flank. Big loss for us.
 

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For all the moaning about our training regimes, why is it that it's always the usual suspects that picks up knocks in trainings?

Jones, Rafael, Smalling, Evans.
And... Falcao :(
 

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Would people be incline to agree with me that he's in need of proper competition for the RB spot? I have really tried to defend his inconsistency but it's getting really tough now.
We need adequate back up but seriously. he has picked up a knock and trained the following day after getting it. One missed game on here (and this isn't directed and you) and everyone is like, oh he is always injured, isn't good enough, made of glass etc. Except that he misses one game and in all the other games he has played, he has been one of our best and influential players.
I wouldn't go that far. Have you forgotten his last few performances in a United shirt?
I'm guessing you haven't been watching him since the Swans match? But to the previous post, no. Fabio isn't good enough for us but better than where he is at currently.
 

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For all the moaning about our training regimes, why is it that it's always the usual suspects that picks up knocks in trainings?

Jones, Rafael, Smalling, Evans.
It does always seem to be those 4 - I dont know if there are any stats out there of how many games any have managed to play without getting injured. TBF Evans did start pretty regularly a couple of seasons ago.
 

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van Gaal just said 'Rafael is injured....again'.

There can't be much room in the sort of small squad that van Gaal says he favours for injury-prone players, I would have thought.

Come on Rafael, stay fit mate.
 

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I'm guessing you haven't been watching him since the Swans match? But to the previous post, no. Fabio isn't good enough for us but better than where he is at currently.
No, I haven't to be honest. But however he is doing in the Championship is impossible to apply to how he would have been doing if he'd never left, which is the post I was responding to.
 

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We need a back up. I'm not looking forward to Valencia on the right again ffs
 

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No, I haven't to be honest. But however he is doing in the Championship is impossible to apply to how he would have been doing if he'd never left, which is the post I was responding to.
I know but I was just responding about your comment on his last appearance in united shirt, which I felt was a little harsh. For whatever reason Moyes left him out after that one start v palace. Sent to the u-21s and then only comes on in the cup match because rio got injured. So was chucked in a bit and sadly that seems to be peoples memories of fabio. When he did put in some good games for us. Few and far between due too his injuries obviously. But, like I said in his thread. He stays fit and plays well like he is, will be a good buy for mid table teams in PL. Not us though.
 

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Surely know he has to be a backup next season his injury record is not good enough for United.
 

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I don't know how the competition is going to help him with his injuries - and apart from them he is one of our best and most consistent performers. What do you mean by inconsistency?
He needs a decent cover though
We need adequate back up but seriously. he has picked up a knock and trained the following day after getting it. One missed game on here (and this isn't directed and you) and everyone is like, oh he is always injured, isn't good enough, made of glass etc. Except that he misses one game and in all the other games he has played, he has been one of our best and influential players.

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My question has nothing to do with his current injury or injury record but his inconsistent mentality. Offensively he's fine but defensively he still has those annoying lapses and it does cost us.
 

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we really did a bad decision sending Varela to Madrid. He was ready to step up even at the end of the last season. He is natural successor to Rafael, very similar in style, could play both flanks, now we have to stick with Valencia. How much Azpilacueta would cost? also can cover both flanks as well as Clyne.. but maybe I´m getting carried away too much..
 

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He got injured once..
So he's not an usual suspect.
I meant it's not just the usual suspects as Falcao picked up an injury too. It's obviously more of a worry with the 4 originally mentioned though, as it's the same old story with them.
 

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My question has nothing to do with his current injury or injury record but his inconsistent mentality. Offensively he's fine but defensively he still has those annoying lapses and it does cost us.
Can't agree with you at all.
 

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I know but I was just responding about your comment on his last appearance in united shirt, which I felt was a little harsh. For whatever reason Moyes left him out after that one start v palace. Sent to the u-21s and then only comes on in the cup match because rio got injured. So was chucked in a bit and sadly that seems to be peoples memories of fabio. When he did put in some good games for us. Few and far between due too his injuries obviously. But, like I said in his thread. He stays fit and plays well like he is, will be a good buy for mid table teams in PL. Not us though.
I'd agree with you there.
 

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I think they do get hurt, but those sports, particularly American Football, seem to have greater scope for playing with a knock, than football does. It takes something pretty catastrophic to keep an American Footballer out (ex. torn ACL.)
Players get hurt all the time-but (and maybe it's an incorrect perception) not so much in practice. In fact, Amercan football teams have drastically changed their practice routines in response to research on the impact of collisions in practice on head injuries. Most American football teams will limit contact drills during the season to limit injuries.

I'm wondering if something similar should be thought about for football (soccer). Or, maybe, United are just unlucky.
 

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We're going to see a fresh backline next season and Rafa as much as I rate him won't be first choice. I'm predicting we'll see a new RB and two CB's.
 

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Xabi Alonso plays for Bayern Munich like he has won nothing at all in his career so.........

If Dani Alves would join QPR then i agree with you.....but a move to us can give players like Dani Alves a "new life"
We should be capable of picking up talented full backs via our scouting system. Blasting a shitload on wages for Alves, who I'd only want as cover, is not the route I want to see the club head down. Screams Maicon to me. I take your point regarding Alonso but all cases are individual. I still think he's a good signing for any top club, probably on reasonable wages.
 

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We should be capable of picking up talented full backs via our scouting system. Blasting a shitload on wages for Alves, who I'd only want as cover, is not the route I want to see the club head down. Screams Maicon to me. I take your point regarding Alonso but all cases are individual. I still think he's a good signing for any top club, probably on reasonable wages.
Alves wouldn't be my first choice.....Coleman or Piszczek would be great
 

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Was obvious we would miss him today and I don't mean in the fact that Valencia is our only back up RB and can't defend. He gives a lot to the team and always looks for the forward pass and a willing runner. We are getting thrashed down our right today, every time City attack.
 

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Yup. When i woke up and saw the first xi, i had a feeling we would be up against it. He starts or plays apart in all of our attacks.
Very true. Think we missed him going forward more than anything. I think Valencia got into an advanced position once in the whole game.
 
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