Looks like the Ralf **** is alive and well!
Ralf Rangnick | Austria manager
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Best manager in the world? Probably.
I'm saying the training probably just wasn't the most effective.
Didn't we create a PL record for the number of turnovers of possession in the first half of a game?
You are right about chance correction.
Sir Alex: "Get behind your manager."
Meanwhile on the cafe:
LVG ****.
Jose ****.
Ole ****.
Ralf ****.
The lack of success seems to be eating away at a lot of the fans to the point of making em more troll than supporter.
Do other club forums that get laughed off here have threads keeping close tab on former managers filled with inciting posts, condescending and schadenfreude?
There's no lvg **** here now.
Hah and def none for Moyes, right? Or are people being too favorable about his work with West Ham
Did Austria just win the world Cup or something?
If it’s really the record number in EPL, it means no other team has done it. Why? Isn’t it reasonable to say the intensity to achieve it can’t be maintained by any team? If goal is rare to score, what’s the point to reach that level of intensity for so long, to tire ourselves and let the opponents overrun us the rest of game? Well, it’s what actually happened but we were luck to score a goal lately.
I agree with you - just thinking on why fans look back so fondly to that first half. We hadn't seen that sort of intensity or hunger for such a long time (or since) so it was a bit of a pleasant jolt.
Hopefully we can look forward to a MUCH less passive team under ETH.
If ETH can’t get us play as a unit, a team, we probably are truly doomed. The only thing left to try next is to push the glazers to sell.
I am very optimistic that ETH can do it.
He will, don't worry.
Ralf has gaslighted has this forum into thinking that we are in some kind of FIFA game were you need 12 new players to be competitive. He fooled a lot of people by telling them about the dirty laundry inside and validating a lot of the fans concerns without doing anything himself about it really.
Couldn't care less about Ragnick but considering the opponents the results are good. 1-1 vs France, 3-0 win vs Croatia and a loss against a very good Denmark.3-0
1-2
1-1
Wow, not a peep from the Rangnites? Wonder why that is?
The Austrian players have clearly downed tools just like the United players did.
Austria pressed and won the first game 3-0 but the players couldn't be bothered to put in the effort in the other games.
They won the first game because of Ralf and then lost 2 and drew 1 because of the players.
It couldn't possibly be due to Ralf, he's the godfather of gegenpressing FFS.
You must be one of the "more observant" fans who see the bigger picture.
very good Denmark since when?
Thought they'd won the world cup. When is the parade?
On a serious note how anyone can back Ragnick as a manager is beyond understanding, he's easily the worst manager United have had firmly behind Moyes and Ole.
I do however hold Ragnick in high esteem concerning being a DOF or in and around that role those are clearly his strengths. He's got abit of Biesla about him all hype and no substance at first team level for a competitive team.
Not commenting on Austria, but Denmark has been good since a while before the EC.
What do people expect from the mighty Austria? to win all games?
Agree with this , no shame in losing to a full strength Danish side.
Denmark have been fantastic lately, easily the best Nordic country and semi-finalists in the Euros.
We really are a special club
Part of the three step Dutch take over of United.
1. Ten Hag
2. Van Der Sar
3. Overmars.
1. Ten Hag
2. Van Der Sar
3. Overmars.
Ralf's time at Utd has been a complete waste of time. If he helped choosing ETH then the Dutchman kinda backstabbed him
Why would Ralf have been involved in choosing Ten Hag? Why would anybody at the club listen a single thing Ralf said to them from February on when it was clear how useless he was?
and you can feck off even joking about that
Ten Hag himself said he hopes to work with him again. If every man sending a dick pic gets banned from holding a job for life, you'll end up with a 40-50% unemployment rate.
You’re missing the massive detail of power dynamics and coercion here. Marc Overmars can go feck himself.
What would you call this current Denmark side?
I mean to say I thought ETH was touted to be the main manager from even earlier than February and that maybe Ralf played a role in that
same as the previous. nothing to shout about. Might squeeze a QF here and there but not a real threat
Not for Ralf it wasn't. He made a few quid, had a nice extended holiday in England, got to experience what it's like to manage a big club, boosted his profile with his weekly shows and gained a small but hardcore following who worship the man.
WTF is this. I don't understand. ETH will only benefit from having Ralf or even meeting him.
Maybe Erik seen Ralf as a toxic presence around the club and didn't want to be associated with him.
Ten Hag and Rangnick stand for quite different brands of football, too. They have in common that both play organized football with pressing being the backbone of their systems but that aside their are many differences. More so than between Klopp and Pep for example. Rangnick was a pioneer in Germany but in contrast to Klopp or Tuchel - who adapted many elements from possession football - he didn't really improve his system beyond that stage. It is still highly reliant on pressing and transition, less so on position and possession play. So IMO, Ten Hag's system is much better suited to a top club.
Either way I believe that many in here see Rangnick's stint too negatively, though. Replacing Solskjaer with Rangnick is actually quite a statement. It signals that you move away from old school improvised football and reliance on individual quality. Can't imagine it didn't help to expose the problems of the current squad and which players have problems to a) commit to an exhausting pressing system and b) give up freedom on the pitch to follow tactical instructions that improve the team performance.
Either way I believe that many in here see Rangnick's stint too negatively, though. Replacing Solskjaer with Rangnick is actually quite a statement. It signals that you move away from old school improvised football and reliance on individual quality. Can't imagine it didn't help to expose the problems of the current squad and which players have problems to a) commit to an exhausting pressing system and b) give up freedom on the pitch to follow tactical instructions that improve the team performance.
I don't care how good a manager Ten Hag is, and how badly Rangnick's tenure ended; if he refused to meet him and take on the information Rangnick had, he is not very smart.
Yeah but the problem was under Rangnick we didn't move to anything. It was 6 months of some of the most insipid, directionless football you will ever see at a top club.
No idea if this is true but it would be silly of ETH not to meet Rangnick, so I don't believe that's how it really went down