Why are they disagreeing with Klopp?
Are they going to call Klopp a liar?? Surely not?
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That one does sting. 5 titles in 9 years for City, we haven't finished above them since Fergie left. We were top of the table this season in January then we drop points to the drizzling shits of the league in West Brom and Sheffield United. Ugh.best chance at the title in 10 years
We were so bad not being able to keep up with an unprecedented 21 wins in a row Man City...That one does sting. 5 titles in 9 years for City, we haven't finished above them since Fergie left. We were top of the table this season in January then we drop points to the drizzling shits of the league in West Brom and Sheffield United. Ugh.
At least he sees sense, I thought he'd go on a rant.Why are they disagreeing with Klopp?
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his words are meaningless, he doesn’t know what he would do in this position as he’s not sat in the dizzying heights of second place. he hasn’t gone toe to toe with pep this year and come up just a bit short due to injuries, corrupt referees and the fa falling over backwards to give city every advantage going. it’s not our fault a host of liverpool fans and fa big wigs pretended to be united fans and got the game called off the other day because they were scared that we might challenge city after thumping liverpool. it’s not our fault we now have 3 games in 5 days, ensuring any title fight would be snuffed out before our very eyes.Why are they disagreeing with Klopp?
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They’re so short sighted, aren’t they?They're doing what they are doing, as they are resting players for us, the team they are obsessed with, their cup final, their nemesis, their last thought at night and the first thought in the morning, its always about us. They're obsessed. Take it all as a compliment.
A bit odd some responses.
It’s not like they lost 7-0.
All we can do is win on Thursday night. For them this was a dead rubber. Thursday matters more to them.. I get that.
Hopefully this time they won’t have the same rat infestation problem, and the game will get played.
...In a world of changing online insults and acceptability, can I ask, after tonight, is devious cheating Nordic Goblin acceptable?
If we ever had incentive to beat them, it's now.
I find it weird they're saying Klopp would've done the same as Ole... Didn't Klopp play Mane, Salah, Trent and Jota in a meaningless Champions League match against that Danish side? Jota getting injured in that game when we were already injury-ravaged... It was one of the turning points of our season. There's me thinking Klopp was trying to get a result (even though we had already won the group and he didn't need to) for the sake of the integrity of the competition. He had nothing to gain from that, whereas United still had a chance to go for the league. Interesting comparison...
What a deluded, myopic bunch of tools that lot are.
Sorry but keep hearing this argument that Klopp would do the same, absolute crock of shit. You think Klopp would throw the last chance at the league with nothing else to play for until a week or two? Chance to go 4 points behind city and put the shits up them with three to play?
Short memories too. Was just last year we had about 4 games in ten days, all league games when people were already saying we had won it, had a FA cup match against Everton smack bang in the middle, Klopp played basically a youth team, few locals kicking off that he put local rivalry second, most though happy he was putting the league first because that’s what league winning managers do.
We were top and had a great chance of winning, so, playing a weakened team would have been daft.
These didn't stand a realistic chance of catching City. Are you saying that you'd voluntarily play a weakened team against them at Anfield with two games in three days(after their Europa League games)?
..My point was Klopp would not put local rivalry over the last chance at winning the league imo and didn’t do that in the past.
At least they can stop kidding themselves they are going to win the league anymore. Always next year.
OK, I know they are an oddball bunch of weirdos, but it's a massive stretch for them to believe they have deprived us of CL football when we quite clearly did that all by ourselves. feck them. Who cares about them? Liverpool FC have won every major trophy over the past few seasons because we fully deserved to. We fell short this season, and simply don't deserve to be in the CL next season. It's tough shit, so we dust ourselves off and kick on next season.
I certainly wouldn't expect that shower to provide us with snookers. We terrify the life out of the feckers. Our success cuts through them like a red hot dagger through their miserable hearts. I couldn't care less what they do. I want and expect no favours from that lot. We do it on our own merit or we don't do it. We need nothing from them.
All that aside, their monumental decline since the Ferguson years is a sight to behold. They were always mentality midgets with vacuous heads and big mouths when I was growing up through the 70s and 80s, and Ferguson managed to drag them out of that for a time, but now he's gone they have reverted fully to type. Still Scouse-obsessed as always, but right back to that insecure, mental fragility. Seeing them lapping up a home defeat which ends their own slim title hopes and hands the trophy to their neighbours is the icing on a beautiful cake for me. Glowing proof of their rapid decline. Glowing proof of a weak, brittle mentality, and yet another glorious example of how everything they do and think revolves around LFC.
We are witnessing a desperate fanbase clutching at straws. A bunch of has-beens begging for a sheikh of their own because they are being left behind. A fanbase so lacking in self-respect that they are now on their knees in front of the neighbours they used to laugh at. Of course, they also have no self-awareness, so cannot see this at all.
My sentiments exactly. The heavens opened and pissed all over them tonight. Now, it was partly to give the scruffy c*nts a good wash but also the Gods relieving themselves over the Toilet
Perfect post!
Also...Isn't it time they change their name to Manchester Everton, maybe get some dark blue kits for next season?
Lads its not like Bruno passed it straight to Vardy
The last time we beat Man Utd at OT in the League, Moyes was manager.
Time to take Davey's name off the list and replace with OGS on Thursday.
Seems to be lost on them City have just won another title, and they themselves haven't won the league in 8 years. Oh well...
...Cannot get my head around posters defending Solskjær's approach and saying 'they had to do it and we'd have done the same.' Utter bullshit.
Of course with three games in six days he had to rotate, but Solskjaer had two options:
1) Rotate and manage minutes in all three games, meaning you put out a half-decent side in all three, thereby still giving yourself a chance in all games.
2) Going Full strength - laughable reserve side with kids I'd never heard of - full strength.
With the league title still undecided (and having not won it for eight years), Solskjaer went with the latter, and in what was absolutely no coincidence either, happened to be playing the team Liverpool are fighting with for 4th place in the middle game. There were players like Cavani who hadn't played at the weekend that he could've started yesterday. He just chose not to. This wasn't something smart or something that a winner does or something simply forced by circumstances. It was Ole Gunnars Solskjaer absolutely Ole Gunnar Solskjaer-ing his head off. It was pure snide - a small-time move by a petty, small-time spoofer of a manager, playing up to the worse elements of United's fanbase, and confirming that they're not a serious big club anymore. People called it 'Evertonisation' yesterday - I'm not sure even Everton would've done this in the same situation.
Their own fans shouldn't even be defending it and should be annoyed at him for throwing that game. That our fans would defend it is absolutely mind-boggling.
You know that when even the likes of Keys and Gray see the problem that the situation proper stinks:
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It’s not often I completely agree with Keys and Gray but they are spot on! If united aren’t punished by the PL for last night and the protest then the PL are an absolute disgrace!
Just when you’ve seen it all in a season, along comes Monkey Paws and Gray to talk sense
There's zero chance of punishment for them, zero.
Ole knew exactly what he was doing.
Sorry, are we complaining too much about Ole Gunnar Solskjaer?
Pardon my ignorance, what did they do that's punishable ?
They have let down the league and spoilt its integrity. Apparently.
But I thought football was saved a few weeks back.
Thats why Ole’s decision is so bad. Innocence was saved, only for his team selection to rip it to shreds again.
...United are the premier leagues golden boys, nothing will happen.
Make no mistake they threw that game last night. They are now an Everton level club.
Shit house nothing club. Enjoy another decade of limbo c*nts.
Are they lurking then?Well guess what lurkers? You’ve woken up this morning and it’s still been 8 years since you won the league and 13 years since you won the European Cup.
Such a shame.
..And probably looking at 4th place at best next season. Good luck having no injuries again.
Joke of a club. Chance to win the league vs bragging rights against liverpool and they chose the latter. What their fans don’t realise is with that mentality they’ll never win the league again.
I had this really weird dream last night. Utd were still in with a, albeit slim, chance of winning the league. But due to their fans getting our game called off, their small time manager made 10 changes against Leicester, playing academy kids, to be strong for us while throwing away any remaining chance of winning the league. City were crowned Champions and Manc fans were happy about once again being the losers and nothings in their own city.
Must have been a dream, as a fanbase that had years of success under Ferguson and a manager who won the PL as a player there, wouldn't be that small time to actually allow that to happen surely?
People saying Man Utd have been Evertonised, please remember that Everton beat West Ham last time out. No, Man Utd have simply been Man Utd-nified... again.
...The fact this game was a dead rubber for them (when in reality they could have still won the title), and they have focused on their game against us, shows that the Evertonisation of Man Utd is complete
Liverpool fans defending a Manchester United manager.
In the bin with you. fecking hell
Do people thing Klopp would have played his first team in three games in five days?
Would he feck. Changes were expected and are warranted, that they fecked us in the process is a bonus.
But we stopped that run at least.We were so bad not being able to keep up with an unprecedented 21 wins in a row Man City...
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Surprised at that. Would've thought they would've won one or two during the darks days of LVG or Mourinho.The last time we beat Man Utd at OT in the League, Moyes was manager
we only lost to decent footballing sides like burnley and sheffield united during those times.Surprised at that. Would've thought they would've won one or two during the darks days of LVG or Mourinho.
The only time we lost to Pool under LVG was in EL. Won all 4 vs them in the league.Surprised at that. Would've thought they would've won one or two during the darks days of LVG or Mourinho.
Always good to wake up to the daily dose of victimization.United have been rewarded if anything.
The only team punished due to that protest have been LFC.
Mane played a whopping three minutes in that game and that was only because of Jota getting injured.I find it weird they're saying Klopp would've done the same as Ole... Didn't Klopp play Mane, Salah, Trent and Jota in a meaningless Champions League match against that Danish side? Jota getting injured in that game when we were already injury-ravaged... It was one of the turning points of our season. There's me thinking Klopp was trying to get a result (even though we had already won the group and he didn't need to) for the sake of the integrity of the competition. He had nothing to gain from that, whereas United still had a chance to go for the league. Interesting comparison...
What a deluded, myopic bunch of tools that lot are. “
And they wonder why they’ve had injuries, poor squad management and not resting players when given an opportunity...
...Who the feck are Man Uniiiiited?
replies to above postGoodness me, there's some bedwetting in hereHenderson to De Gea is not a downgrade, and Harry Maguire did his ankle ligaments, so we're talking in reality 8 outfield changes. Liverpool made 7 changes against Fulham and lost the game (Mane, Fabinho, Trent, Thiago etc all on the bench) - could have hugely affected the relegation picture. City made 9 changes last weekend and lost to Chelsea, again impacting the top 4. But everyone's crying about United who have just played 48 hours previous and have another game 48 hours laterAnd there's the presumption that a full-strength United team would have fared any better against Leicester yesterday 48 hours after playing Aston Villa. A full strength side that has drawn 2-2 and lost 3-1 to them already this season.Liverpool went from 13th December to 10th April without winning at home. Big bad Ole, eh.
Completely agree. Why can't we just take responsibility? If we'd beaten Fulham and drawn with Leicester, we'd have been in the driving seat.
Utd still had the title to play for. City had a big points lead and have a massive quality squad with very little drop off in about 9 of their 11 positions.
You do realise you're talking about Man Utd at Old Trafford? You're not Burnley or Brighton.
I'm of the opinion we've largely got ourselves to blame (along with the refereeing) but the recent sequence of events has distorted the table further and we've been the ones who've lost out when we've done nothing wrong.
Give it a rest mate. We literally lost 6 home games in a row and haven't beaten Newcastle (x2), Burnley, Brighton (x2), West Brom and Fulham(x2) this season. That's awful whichever way you look at it.
don’t think you’ve read the thread. Nobody’s particularly surprised or moaning about United throwing the game. Ole said he was going to and he did. So that’s that.
The main reaction has been pissing our sides that he’d give up when there was still a chance you could’ve put pressure on your closest rivals and neighbours. City fans must’ve been laughing their heads off. We were as well to be honest if you read back.
It’s hilarious that a manager would do that. He could’ve managed the series of games so much better to give yourselves a chance. Instead he rolled over. Closest you’ll ever get n’all
It's not about us, it's about you. The changes we make and the point we win or loose is on us. You're not costing us a CL spot, we're perfectly capable of doing that ourselves. YOU THREW AWAY YOUR OWN CHANCE OF WINNING THE LEAGUE FFS!
I guess you're the perfect United supporter; even when it's about you, you think it's about us... You're the one who should be outraged by this. You turning into Manchester Everton is not really upsetting to us, it's funny.
That was the saving grace and I gave them stick yesterday. Best chance since SAF left and they were nowhere near. A bloke was arguing that they were in it until GW35 but their challenge fully complied with social-distancing guidelines as they always messed it up when they had a real chance to close the gap.
They still had a chance, however small. Instead he gave up. Unforgivable, sad and hilarious in equal measure
8 years. When you’ve gone another 8 or so years without winning the league you might look back and feel a bit aggrieved that Solskjaer could have made 4 or 5 changes to each team over the last week and still won each game, rather than playing a full strength team, then the reserves, then a full strength team again. It’s incredible that you’d go that long without even being involved in a title race and then when you get a bit of a sniff your manager pisses what slight chance he has up the wall, and you all clap along with him because, what? Arrogance that you believe it won’t be another few years before you’re involved again? Such hubris.
Liverpool haven’t been good enough for top 4. It’s not last night’s result that means that we won’t be in the Champions League next year. It’s just amusing that you’re happy to think it’s down to you rather than being annoyed that your team bottled a proper title challenge in January and February then finally chucked the towel in because the fixtures got a bit tough at the end.
Also it’s highly amusing that you’re laughing at Liverpool potentially being in the Europa League next season when in two weeks time you’ll all be on the edge of your seats praying that United won’t feck it up in this years final.
We are not blaming you for our failure to get a top 4 finish (if we fail). We are just laughing at you for becoming another Everton, a club with an inferiority complex to your city rivals
Why were they playing Tuesday and Thursday?
Because fellas in their 20's had a nice day throwing stuff around old Trafford drinking cans of Stella.
If Mr. Ferguson had been forced to play Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday, Tuesday (you know because you have no game at the weekend) do you think he'd have put out a side like that to hand Man City the title?
As much as I can't stand the champagne socialist from Govan. No. He wouldn't. That's how far you've fallen.
I swear loads of Mancs appear on here whenever their green and gold stuff picks up every few years. Do they briefly think they are Norwich fans and have just won the league or something?
...I'm delighted you lost.
Even funnier that you went out of your way to hand your City 'rivals' (Arf) the Title.
You're probably too young to remember, but you were this crap for years before Ferguson and Sky turned your fortunes around.
You might argue that coming 2nd is quite an achievement and of course every club would like to be 2nd over where they are - except for the Champions of England.
But this probably represents the best chance at the title in 10 years. You had very few injuries and you had tons of game-changing decisions.
Fair enough, you've had three years straight of game-changing decisions, but if next season you get refereed normally and/or have some injuries then things might get a bit stickier.
I can't see you being anywhere near the title next season unless something more amazing than Mike Riley somehow happens.
The weird Smeagol freak is a snivelling little shite. Any Liverpool fan saying other wise should have a long chat with themselves
Amen to that.
Yeah, now they have to sell Salah or Mane just to make up for the short fall from the lack of CLThe level of delusion at RAWK is wonderful to behold. They think that a damaged VVD is going to turn them back into Champions next season and yet if they want a look at where they will really be just look at where Arsenal are now. They are sniffing around Sancho but have admitted that in order to sign him they need to sell Salah or Mane so at best that is a wash and in the meanwhile their midfield look like rejects from Dads Army and Klopp is clearly approaching the bust part of his normal 7 year cycle. Took them 30 years to win one PL title and they will be doing well if they manage another in the next 30.
I assume they expect all their players to want to stay at the club without CL.Yeah, now they have to sell Salah or Mane just to make up for the short fall from the lack of CL
11 of 17 Fernandes goals by way of pen. hes taken 22 in a season and a half.
Twenty two. and he screams like a girly girl who just saw a big spider.
and this guy has the nuts to repeat a bs sky narrative that mo dives a lot relative to anybody else and especially relative to the entire manc team.
Everybody in the league goes down when touched now because it looks worse on var in slo mo. Fernandes is literally the best/worst at it. Mo doesn't do it enough.
Embarrassment of a club. In fairness to the few United supporters i know in work they are absolutely raging this morning. Mentally there is no returning from what they did last night. They've gone full on Everton now.
...Even better, we have the chance to put the final nail in their coffin tomorrow ...
They've only ever won the league under three managers. It might be a while before the fourth comes along.
Self proclaimed Biggest Club in the world. c*nts.
...The tend to go 30 years between those managers and their next title too, so at this rate it'll be around 2043 before they next win the league.
I've only seen 5 different Liverpool managers win the league and only 4 win the European Cup.
A player actually get sent off on Sunday for diving against them.
Watkins dived. Reminded me of Salah.
Your team has just deliberately thrown a game to give up on their best chance of winning the league for years, and you’re on here trying , and failing, to wind up Liverpool fans?
You can add that OJS was more interested in beating us then beating Leicester and making Man City win the premiership at Newcastle. How stupid can you get with that approach!
That’s OJ Simpson for you.
Your players dive every game yet still manage to get penalties from the usual pro-United officials.
...11 of 17 Fernandes goals by way of pen. hes taken 22 in a season and a half.
Twenty two. and he screams like a girly girl who just saw a big spider.
and this guy has the nuts to repeat a bs sky narrative that mo dives a lot relative to anybody else and especially relative to the entire manc team.
Everybody in the league goes down when touched now because it looks worse on var in slo mo. Fernandes is literally the best/worst at it. Mo doesn't do it enough.
We should organise a protest and get the game called off...
Seriously wouldn't be a bad idea. Sure there is no repercussions right and the media will applaud us for it right.
Neville and Carragher cheering 'the fight to save football' on from the gantry too.
...Pity Neville had no interest in saving Bury (the club he grew up supporting) and Gigg Lane (a stand even named after his Dad). Was too busy a few miles down the road buying a club into the EFL with his dodgy billionaire mate the same season Bury got kicked out.
Why wasn't he on his soapbox on Sky ranting about what happened to BurY?
I still can't believe there has been no repercussions.
United have been rewarded if anything.
The only team punished due to that protest have been LFC.
On City winning PLAnd hammers.
Did anyone see the Sky Sports coverage of their fans congregating outside their stadium last night? Literally about 8 of them
All of them showed up? That's a pretty good turn out.
Don't be so harsh, they were just sticking to the government's social distancing regulations
That and the traffic.
Good turnout, all things considered.
feck me, I know we joke about them being pissed off that no one gives a shit about their success as its all a giant cheat, but looking on the BBC sport website they must all be fuming. Top story is about Liverpool v Man Utd, then its the story about VVD, only third importance is them winning the league
Honestly I think it's about right, the reason is that no one cares. If there was a bitter hatred of them it would be top story, if they were a proper success story it would be a top story, but its nothing. If we are honest we would rather them win than United, probably about 95% of fans would. So its all a bit meh, on to next year.
I feel dirty for saying this but THANK YOU ABU DHABI FOR STOPPING THE RED MANCS FROM WINNING THE LEAGUE.
We didn't compete this year, so, I'm not bitter. No one cares about them anyway.
Those scam emails you get "My client has left 450 million in his will and I have chosen you to be the beneficiary"
Imagine one of those were real and you actually did get the $450 million.
You also inherit their 5 bedroom house that was only built a couple of years previous.
You go out and buy a Bugatti, a couple of Ferraris, a Lamborghini and a BMW i8.
Is anyone really going to look at you and congratulate you on how hard you have worked to achieve what you have 10 years later?
No, they're going to look at you like you are a c*nt.
Man City are that c*nt.
The best analogy that I've ever read.
first European cup final in their history..
bluemoon.. "I'm watching it at home instead or in a pub over here too much pissing about all this now." honestly truly amazing
Compared to the scouse kid who bunked a train from Limey to Rome in 77
But shall we maybe not damn the schedule though? The amount of Scouse tears we got when they had a friendly and a Carabao cup game in a row, and now our 'sheer spite and cowardice' has led us to let the poor neutrals down. feck off you vainglorious Scouse bastards.RAWK is back.This shows the vast chasm mentality-wise between United (and by extension Ole) and City (Pep). You could even throw us (LFC) into the equation for the sake of comparison. In the 18/19 season we were so far ahead at Christmas, some pundits were saying we had the league sewn up and there was no way back for City. Some said City could do it because they'd done it before; they knew how to win leagues and they had the mentality of champions. And yes, they kept clawing back and hoping we would slip up, and we, in turn, kept drawing games we should've won. But the point is that Pep and his team never stopped believing until the end, and with a few favours from refs (like Kompany not getting sent off for a clear red card tackle in the pre-penultimate game), they did catch us, and they did win the league.
This weekend City lost to Chelsea and gave United the tiniest sliver of hope. And what did they do with it? Pulled their trousers down and took a big shit all over competitive integrity is what they did, pissing away the first real opportunity they've had in years to fight for the big prize. They seem to take it for granted that they'll be there or thereabouts again next season, but can they be so sure?
Another chance like this may never come in the next decade, especially with the scrutiny VAR and the PGMOL are likely to be under next season (plus the fact Howard Webb is now retired). Anyone who's been paying attention knows they are nowhere near Top 4 in the league without all the penalties they've been gifted since last May. It's only gonna get harder and harder to mask all the "favours" they tend to get.
Schedule be damned...United had a duty to fight until the end, engender some excitement for neutral fans by making a title race out of even the slimmest of chances. And they blew it...Not through valiant yet thwarted effort but through sheer spite and cowardice.
And it just goes to show the state of the journalism in this country that they're not being called out for it, or that no one is questioning how their decision to field such a weakened starting 11 at this crucial stage of the season, when so much is at stake for everyone (including themselves), impacts on the integrity of the game. Instead, Sky and BT are celebrating a soulless victory by the league's richest team.
Our society is fecked from top to bottom, and what's going on with the football is symptomatic of dangerous levels of corruption among the powerful, and apathy among the rest of us. We all need to wake the feck up.
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100% spot on.RAWK is back.