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dont think mitch can deal with the sohrabuddin case like our hon'ble HM did@berbatrick who is the more ruthless politician, Shah or McConnell ?
dont think mitch can deal with the sohrabuddin case like our hon'ble HM did@berbatrick who is the more ruthless politician, Shah or McConnell ?
Correct, but it's not those 3 who likely to overturn Roe vs Wade...As any challenge would go through the supreme Court and we don't know as yet who replaces rbg, however, im still pretty sure that Clarance Thomas, Sonia Sotomayor & Eleana kagan are not old white men
Not sure why they would decide such a thing, when their jobs are to make legal rulings.I find it strange that current SC justices have almost no say in choosing candidates or appointees.
I get what you are implying, but to have absolutely no say in the vetting process is a bit odd.Not sure why they would decide such a thing, when their jobs are to make legal rulings.
I think the problem is that there are so few justices (9), which means the prospect of lifetime appointments weigh heavier on the selection process. If there were 13 or 17 (pick any reasonable odd number) then the risk of a lifetime appointment would be spread more evenly. The lifetime appointment bit is probably not changeable since its in the constitution. The number of justices however isn't and can be changed by a simple majority vote in Congress.I get what you are implying, but to have absolutely no say in the vetting process is a bit odd.
Especially in a post that is essentially a lifetime appointment.
He could mean the Republicans in the Senate, those old white men will definitely be deciding the fate of Roe.As any challenge would go through the supreme Court and we don't know as yet who replaces rbg, however, im still pretty sure that Clarance Thomas, Sonia Sotomayor & Eleana kagan are not old white men
I know it’s what he was praying for and he would have ”won” if I did it but feck him I‘d have put a brick through his fat head and shat on the mess It made.
As a point of comparison: Norway, a much smaller country, has 19 supreme court judges. Though most cases are tried by only 5 at a time, important ones are seen by at least 11 and sometimes all of them. There are also no lifetime appointments, but as you say that is not feasible to change in the US.I think the problem is that there are so few justices (9), which means the prospect of lifetime appointments weigh heavier on the selection process. If there were 13 or 17 (pick any reasonable odd number) then the risk of a lifetime appointment would be spread more evenly. The lifetime appointment bit is probably not changeable since its in the constitution. The number of justices however isn't and can be changed by a simple majority vote in Congress.
High five.I know it’s what he was praying for and he would have ”won” if I did it but feck him I‘d have put a brick through his fat head and shat on the mess It made.
Seems to me the Dems can make a calculated power play without being accused of completely throwing of the conservative advantage right away.I think the problem is that there are so few justices (9), which means the prospect of lifetime appointments weigh heavier on the selection process. If there were 13 or 17 (pick any reasonable odd number) then the risk of a lifetime appointment would be spread more evenly. The lifetime appointment bit is probably not changeable since its in the constitution. The number of justices however isn't and can be changed by a simple majority vote in Congress.
The bit about adding justices is the nuclear option, which they would be perfectly justified in doing if Biden wins and they reclaim the Senate. If the Republicans are willing to brazenly cheat then they have to be prepared to reap what they sow.Seems to me the Dems can make a calculated power play without being accused of completely throwing of the conservative advantage right away.
Add DC and PR as states in part as justification to add two justices. Make the balance 6-5 in favor of the conservatives so they cant claim its some kind of way to illegally gain a majority there. Even though we know the Rs would do that without batting an eye.
Two of the conservative justices hypothetically will need to be replaced during a Dem presidency. Use that to further stimulate the base for the next 4-8 yrs.
Of course all this assumes Trump wont come full autocrat circle with the backing of the court.
Ya but the tit for tat is what I fear. The decline of the Roman republic has been on my mind a bit recently. While you really can't draw parallels between the two situations for several reasons, the Dems adding justices will further encourage the subversion of democratic norms I fear. Democracies/republics have a better chance of dying with many small cuts rather than a couple of big slices.The bit about adding justices is the nuclear option, which they would be perfectly justified in doing if Biden wins and they reclaim the Senate. If the Republicans are willing to brazenly cheat then they have to be prepared to reap what they sow.
You can't think like that with the Republicans, because they'll do it anyway. They don't need provocation, and they never believe Democrat threats of retaliation, so never worry about any blowback.Ya but the tit for tat is what I fear. The decline of the Roman republic has been on my mind a bit recently. While you really can't draw parallels between the two situations for several reasons, the Dems adding justices will further encourage the subversion of democratic norms I fear. Democracies/republics have a better chance of dying with many small cuts rather than a couple of big slices.
I thought the low number concern was nonsense, but actually, Canada has 9 for a population of 38M, and the Netherlands 36(!) for a population of 17.5M. So yeah, 9 is pretty low for the US.As a point of comparison: Norway, a much smaller country, has 19 supreme court judges. Though most cases are tried by only 5 at a time, important ones are seen by at least 11 and sometimes all of them. There are also no lifetime appointments, but as you say that is not feasible to change in the US.
There almost inherently has to be something wrong with a system which damn near introduces a political crisis on top of an already highly contested election.
Ya but I'm not interested in living in a dictatorship so I'll avoid that line of thinking. Feck the GOP, the only way to ensure they don't mess everything up is to implement laws that secure your own power (increasing senate seats with DC, Puerto Rico, ruthlessly destroying voter suppression/upholding voter rights, scrapping the electoral college if needed) and do so in a way that you have a clear majority of the country on your side. Packing the court will not stop the GOP from doing so when they return to power (no way to close the door behind you) and you will just shorten the amount of time that the Dems can stay in power.You can't think like that with the Republicans, because they'll do it anyway. They don't need provocation, and they never believe Democrat threats of retaliation, so never worry about any blowback.
Ya you are right, didn't work that math out in my head. Still, it makes it much harder for the GOP to control the Senate for more than 1 election cycle with the addition of those 4 seats.Impossible? How did you come to this conclusion? A majority on the senate would require 52 senators + VP or 53 senators without the need of VP. They currently have 53 + VP.
Even if all 4 senators were Dems (virtually certain from DC, very likely from PR), at the moment GOP would have been controlling the senate.
I'm surprised the fbi have not brought charges for the false muller claims yet?I know it’s what he was praying for and he would have ”won” if I did it but feck him I‘d have put a brick through his fat head and shat on the mess It made.
To be honest I think that would massively backfire and not only be unpopular but feed the narrative of whole dems not accepting the defeat in the last election.Dems should pack the court with a simple majority vote. After that,they should change the law to require a super majority to change the number again.
Pack the court, and give statehood to DC, Puerto Rico and break California in multiple states. Essentially, make a situation for GOP to not be able to control the senate despite losing by multiple points.Dems should pack the court with a simple majority vote. After that,they should change the law to require a super majority to change the number again.
Who cares if it's unpopular? The GOP certainly don't, they do unpopular things all the time. But they also get shit done. Terrible, immoral, borderline evil shit, but it gets done all the same.To be honest I think that would massively backfire and not only be unpopular but feed the narrative of whole dems not accepting the defeat in the last election.
This.Who cares if it's unpopular? The GOP certainly don't, they do unpopular things all the time. But they also get shit done. Terrible, immoral, borderline evil shit, but it gets done all the same.
The voters would forget about being angry by the next election.
I would rather see the Dakotas merge and two of Wyoming/Montana/Idaho becoming one state.Pack the court, and give statehood to DC, Puerto Rico and break California in multiple states. Essentially, make a situation for GOP to not be able to control the senate despite losing by multiple points.
Play against GOP on their court. feck being nice.
Too fecking right. The Dems need to punch hard and keep punching the gop. I can't imagine Pelosi or Schumer bothering though.Who cares if it's unpopular? The GOP certainly don't, they do unpopular things all the time. But they also get shit done. Terrible, immoral, borderline evil shit, but it gets done all the same.
The voters would forget about being angry by the next election.
The dickhead has an OnlyFans and charges $50/month for it.
Sooo does this mean Lincoln folks are actually against this? Intriguing.
I would assume so, if not they’d lose all credibility.Sooo does this mean Lincoln folks are actually against this? Intriguing.
They are dead even as of the last poll. Will be interesting to the next, post RBG death poll pans out there.
@berbatrick who is the more ruthless politician, Shah or McConnell ?
He chafed under what he deplored as professorial lectures by Mr. Obama during his sessions with congressional leaders. In his memoir, Mr. McConnell recounted watching a full inning of televised baseball while the president went on nonstop about a subject by telephone.
Why is that your opinion?No just my opinion.
And more to the point, why would a Canadian care about the next American SCOTUS nominee ?Why is that your opinion?
Do you support Trump? McConnel?
Do you believe abortion should be illegal in the US?
What do you think of QAnon?
Do you believe wearing masks and semi-lockdown orders are the greatest violation of rights since slavery?
How do you feel about the recent protests? About the 1619 project?
Sooo does this mean Lincoln folks are actually against this? Intriguing.
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