SirAnderson
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Are we going straight to pens if it ends in a draw? (like it would ) in two minds, because I've gone with a rare 2-2 draw and for us to win on yet again on penalties with De Gea rubbing it in even more in their faces.
Yeah I think so. I think this show that Darmian will likely be first choice unless he is crap today.Bailly and Jones instead of Lindelof and Smalling, Rashford instead of Lingard and that should be our starting line up against WHU.
All of his good games are anomalies whilst his bad games are representative. Obviously.What if he has a great game?
You are kidding right? 2 trophies and UCL qualification all from a negative mindset? Maybe you should be praying for Klopp as managerThis argument about Lingard providing some defensive cover does my head in.
First of all an attacker should be assessed and expected to be an attacker first meaning his offensive capabilities have to be a priority in whether they deserve to start.
Secondly the other players beside can also do their defensive duties with the added bonus of actually contributing in attack.
People have been brainwashed as to accept having a winger whose strongest attribute are defensive related rather than their offensive output.
Why should we always go into big games against rival or even teams inferior to us(no in this case) with a mindset to sideline some of our biggest attacking threats for defensive coverage. Every game we're expected to defend and sit back, can't even expect an ounce of positivity in our play. Down right frustrating.
Lingard has no argument to be starting over all those players far more deserving than him as attacking players. His offensive output are awful but this is Mourinho with his negative mindset.
And yes even if this was a game against Hull but a final Mourinho would have gone with a negative approach. We just can't expect going into game to enjoy them but just to bite nails for 90 minutes as we're defending narrow leads or draws.
And you aren't wrong to think that. We had legends like Ronaldo, Beckham and Giggs running down the wings for us once. Lingard, as much as I love him as a squad player, should not be starting games for us when we have real talents such as Martial, and Rashford on the bench.Slightly disappointed that Lingard still starts games for us as I think we should be aiming a bit better. However he does have a great knack of scoring in big games. Other than that, probably the strongest line we could play all things considered.
Matchday thread tradition.All the fecking whining
The build up in the posession is best with lingard in high pressure. Mkh is like a train wreck whi runs into high press and loose the ball , martial is frankly speaking not up to the mark in terms of positioning and movement and rashford is too direct and not creative.This argument about Lingard providing some defensive cover does my head in.
First of all an attacker should be assessed and expected to be an attacker first meaning his offensive capabilities have to be a priority in whether they deserve to start.
Secondly the other players beside can also do their defensive duties with the added bonus of actually contributing in attack.
People have been brainwashed as to accept having a winger whose strongest attribute are defensive related rather than their offensive output.
Why should we always go into big games against rival or even teams inferior to us(no in this case) with a mindset to sideline some of our biggest attacking threats for defensive coverage. Every game we're expected to defend and sit back, can't even expect an ounce of positivity in our play. Down right frustrating.
Lingard has no argument to be starting over all those players far more deserving than him as attacking players. His offensive output are awful but this is Mourinho with his negative mindset.
And yes even if this was a game against Hull but a final Mourinho would have gone with a negative approach. We just can't expect going into game to enjoy them but just to bite nails for 90 minutes as we're defending narrow leads or draws.
Oooh that hurts! I see we're going to have some fun with youIn the match day thread? Lingard continually fails to vindicate his backers. I think they're the ones who need to improve the quality of their posts, or stop being precious about him.
For?Revenge
Still on a high I see
Lingard is a surprise and rather disappointing inclusion. Not really been much from him in pre season. Good team otherwise.
I really hope I can call you up on this after the matchRevenge
You and me both man!Missed the XI by one player... guess who
In all seriousness, hope Jesse shines tonight with his work rate and movement.
For that stupid friendly a few weeks agoFor?
BT Sport 2What Channel is this on??
BT Sport 2What Channel is this on??
Please don't thrash us.For that stupid friendly a few weeks ago
Yes definitely. It's a shame he doesn't have more quality in the final third because he works so hard and creates space/finds pockets so well. He's like a poor mans Thomas MullerI don't really like lingard but i understand why jose starts him not just coz of his defensive work but he makes runs all day which allows other attackers time and space on ball.
Pfff, rubbish, we have LingardReal Madrid team looks awesome.
We need a right winger who does a defensive job well when Valencia does his overlaps.Lingard is a surprise and rather disappointing inclusion. Not really been much from him in pre season. Good team otherwise.
I didn't even notice he'd been left out! Disappointing but understandable.Where's Pereira?
same , though had martial for mkh.Good start .10/11 had Martial in for Lingard
BT Sport 2Is this on TV?
No he doesn't. Counter football actually requires players who have that final ball in them especially in fast transition which Lingard doesn't have.We're going to be parking the bus and playing on the counter. Lingard does that job very well.
I am not going to say I like this in any way and I am not fond of Mourinho's selection choices but at the end of the day when we won the Europa League final I wasn't thinking 'it would have been better if Fellaini and Darmian didn't start'. I can't even remember the team that day but I remember is we won.
BT Sport.Is this on TV?
Bring it on.Revenge
He link up well with the other players as well. Also been our best attacking player in pre-season.I don't really like lingard but i understand why jose starts him not just coz of his defensive work but he makes runs all day which allows other attackers time and space on ball.
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