I agree we need a striker but people are legitimately losing their minds that Rashford is losing time at the position to Zlatan who is the a top 5 player of this generation. What's going to happen when we bring in another striker who will limit Rashford's time there?
Realistic Summer 2017: Ins & Outs
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My thoughts also.
It is cluster feck . And i don't think that mou will get bigger budget. Budget is already huge so i guess he will must change priorities. Or aim lower for some positions. ( example no bakayoko or fabinho for 50mil. Instead some 30 years old dmc for 15 mil)
Biggest problem is that strikers, world class strikers, cost the most.
My prediction for summer was that we will buy 2 or 3 players( defender, midfielder and maybe full back) for 70-80 mil and griezmann for 90.
Now griezmann is probably off.
What one injury created ffs. Domino effect.
Seems like people have forget that we offloaded Schweinsteiger, Memphis and Schneiderlin in january, which save us money in salary (Schneiderlin 100k/week?; Memphis 100k/week?; Schweinsteiger 150k/week? = 350 k/week total?) plus we got some transfer fee. So we might have a bigger budget than before january.
You might as well add about £200k a week off from Ibra now too!
People are overreacting if they think Ibrahimovic's injury will cause us big problems in the summer market.
Remember he was refusing to sign a new deal anyway. Woodward and Mourinho aren't stupid, any transfer plans they have would have covered a situation where he left the club. His injury has merely clarified the issue sooner than we expected.
Remember he was refusing to sign a new deal anyway. Woodward and Mourinho aren't stupid, any transfer plans they have would have covered a situation where he left the club. His injury has merely clarified the issue sooner than we expected.
I've mentioned it in the other forum, I personally think it's a blessing in disguise. I've compared him to the time RVN was here. Lots of goals. Limited trophies. Not fluid football. Soon as he left, great fluid football & lots of trophies.
Schneiderlin - 100k
Depay - 90k
Schweinsteiger - 200k
Ibrahimovic - 220k
Rooney - 290k
Young - 110k
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That's over £1m a week opened up under the wage bill.
Easily enough for something like Griezmann (250), Mbappe (120), Bonucci (200), Semedo (75,) Keita (90) - £735k/wk / 25% reduction from what we entered this season spending.
I just hope a season in charge of Manchester United has caused Jose to reassess this preference to work only with small squads - we simply can't cope with a full season armed only with a squad as big as he's gotten away with at Chelsea or elsewhere; and certainly not in defence.
As Sir Alex knew by the end, it's not just quality but also quantity that's required - we more than most other clubs need squad depth.
As Sir Alex knew by the end, it's not just quality but also quantity that's required - we more than most other clubs need squad depth.
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Perrera will come back. matuidi is available for less than 30m. Same as Keane for 25m . Then we will have one of greizmann or Lukaku or both
Also think young ,Fellaini and Damian will stay
Also think young ,Fellaini and Damian will stay
Defoe for the last 20 minutes or for cup games wouldnt be a bad option to have on a free and I'd imagine relatively low wages.
Keep De Gea, Shaw & Martial. Sign starting XI quality CB, DM & FW. Sell Rooney.
Very good Summers work.
Very good Summers work.
A real shame Van Gaal got rid of Keane....
Or that we simply need to replace permacrocks with more dependable players. We have effectively gone through the season using just 4 central midfielders whilst playing significant portion of the season with a 3 men midfield but surprise, surprise they are still going strong. Remove Jones in that defence, replace him with someone likely to stay fit and we'd have someone to play next to Bailly tomorrow.
These are £900k, and then I think either Darmian or Blind could leave, both maybe, so still close to £1m./week in salary.
Rooney will be a part of a deal with Lukaku I think. Rooney + £40-50m.
Nothing wrong with it at that time if he insisted on playing time. The real crime is not inserting a buy back clause like most clubs do when selling youngsters. That falls on Woodward.
Llamas will be dramatic its just the way things are now.
In:
Griezmann £95m
B Silva £60m
Keane £20m
Mendes £25m
Think we will spend around the £200m mark
Out:
Rooney
Darmain
Possibly Blind
Possibly Martial (but hope not)
DDG
Valencia Bailley Keane Mendes
Herrera Pogba
Mykytarin Griezmann Silva
Rashford
Subs:
Mata
Martial
Young
Shaw
Smalling
Jones
Blind
Carrick
Fellaini
(Rojo and Zlatan)
Not a bad squad and a exciting first 11.
Griezmann £95m
B Silva £60m
Keane £20m
Mendes £25m
Think we will spend around the £200m mark
Out:
Rooney
Darmain
Possibly Blind
Possibly Martial (but hope not)
DDG
Valencia Bailley Keane Mendes
Herrera Pogba
Mykytarin Griezmann Silva
Rashford
Subs:
Mata
Martial
Young
Shaw
Smalling
Jones
Blind
Carrick
Fellaini
(Rojo and Zlatan)
Not a bad squad and a exciting first 11.
Great last paragraph!
Was going to say lets not assume about Ibra but
I really dont see Rooney leaving this summer now btw.
Why?
With Ibra probably done I can see Jose wanting his experience him and Carrick.
Why not buy an experienced CF/SS instead of keeping Rooney?
Because he is an experienced CF/SS who is already at the club?
But he doesn't get to play. Isn't it better to buy someone with a lot of experience that can be a regular starter, Griezmann?
Ibra is gone. He isnt a cripple he can still play ffs. If Rooney leaves this summer it wont be because of Jose.
I mean...if we sign him for 10 million as a backup to add some depth...I'm all up for it, it would be perfect. Our schedule next season will be even more insane and Jose realizes he needs depth to rotate a bit even without taking injuries and suspensions into account.
Griezmann - To play behind Rashford
Fabinho - To replace Carrick who will still be with us
van Dijk (or Manolas)- To replace Jones who will be sold
Those three would easily cost 150m and we would still probably need to bring in another striker or winger (such as Mertens) if Rooney and Zlatan leave, unless Martial steps up big time.
I do not think that it is realistic to sign Griezmann and A N Other expensive striker such as Aubameyang. What is realistic is to go for an older player who still has at least one year in him, such as Mandzukic or Defoe.
Fabinho - To replace Carrick who will still be with us
van Dijk (or Manolas)- To replace Jones who will be sold
Those three would easily cost 150m and we would still probably need to bring in another striker or winger (such as Mertens) if Rooney and Zlatan leave, unless Martial steps up big time.
I do not think that it is realistic to sign Griezmann and A N Other expensive striker such as Aubameyang. What is realistic is to go for an older player who still has at least one year in him, such as Mandzukic or Defoe.
Think alot depends on Champions league as the choice of clubs widens for top players to be interested in.
Couple years ago Spurs wouldn't be an option for big names, but with consistently good seasons and potential for growth, if they can afford them, big players may consider them more, Liverpool maybe coming back into that too with Klopp and Champions league.
-Griezmann is an obvious choice if we can tempt him.
-Cheeky Rooney + Cash offer to Everton for Lukaku and maybe if Chelsea keep Costa he'd come to us instead.
-Centre back is needed, think we need a solid 3 we can rely on, and we currently have Rojo and Bailly, with Rojo out for some time that needs to be a priority.
-We need to find Carricks long term replacement, maybe we survive another season if we cant find the right player, but its reliant on being injury free in midfield if we dont bring someone in.
Couple years ago Spurs wouldn't be an option for big names, but with consistently good seasons and potential for growth, if they can afford them, big players may consider them more, Liverpool maybe coming back into that too with Klopp and Champions league.
-Griezmann is an obvious choice if we can tempt him.
-Cheeky Rooney + Cash offer to Everton for Lukaku and maybe if Chelsea keep Costa he'd come to us instead.
-Centre back is needed, think we need a solid 3 we can rely on, and we currently have Rojo and Bailly, with Rojo out for some time that needs to be a priority.
-We need to find Carricks long term replacement, maybe we survive another season if we cant find the right player, but its reliant on being injury free in midfield if we dont bring someone in.
Griezman, a striker and a MF for me. Maybe two MFs.
Something tells me we won't be seeing too many exits, this summer.
Rooney, Januzaj, and maybe one of Young or Darmian. And, we won't be extending Zlatan as well.
Rooney, Januzaj, and maybe one of Young or Darmian. And, we won't be extending Zlatan as well.
Pogba, Herrera, a new midfieder and Fellaini. We got enough for numbers and we can still offer an extension to Carrick so why that 'new midfielder' spot has to be for a backup quality like Matuidi? I think it will be such a waste of money even if it's considerd to be cheap.
Defoe wants to play next season. He won't settle for second fiddle role. It's his last chance to play at a world cup. So he would choose a team fighting for survival and regular play over someone like us and be a back up.
Rooney most probably. The other exits could happen in January as Mourinho will probably talk the team up on "You all have a chance to play, just give me what I like.". And the ones who try their best and still can't get in they will leave in Jan. Kind of the same scenario as this season. Rooney already knows he's on the fringes and would really want to go to Russia, just like Defoe. So I see Rooney leaving in the summer. I just hope a "fifaesque" type of transfer could be pulled off - Rooney plus $$$ for Lukaku. Unless, Rooney is happy to be warming up the bench for a good pay check.
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Manchester United star 'puts home' up for sale
David de Gea’s £3.85m mansion has reportedly been put up for sale - fuelling speculation he will leave Manchester United in the summer.
The 26-year-old has been heavily linked with a summer move to Real Madrid, having come perilously close to joining Los Blancos on deadline day in 2015.
And, according to the Sun, de Gea’s five-bedroom house in Bowden has now been put up for sale on an estate agents website.
Manchester United star 'puts home' up for sale
David de Gea’s £3.85m mansion has reportedly been put up for sale - fuelling speculation he will leave Manchester United in the summer.
The 26-year-old has been heavily linked with a summer move to Real Madrid, having come perilously close to joining Los Blancos on deadline day in 2015.
And, according to the Sun, de Gea’s five-bedroom house in Bowden has now been put up for sale on an estate agents website.
Personally i think we have no choice but to keep young for another season. their is lack of width in our team and he's the only player happy to play a squad player role and keep giving everything. Wing back winger LWF, high work rate defensively good versatility in different formations. Unless we resign a zaha sort of wide player there is no sense of letting him go now specially.
Lvg and woodward sold players in a very stupid way.
We must skin them dry or get kroos , modric or casemiro in return.14:58KEY EVENT
Manchester United star 'puts home' up for sale
David de Gea’s £3.85m mansion has reportedly been put up for sale - fuelling speculation he will leave Manchester United in the summer.
The 26-year-old has been heavily linked with a summer move to Real Madrid, having come perilously close to joining Los Blancos on deadline day in 2015.
And, according to the Sun, de Gea’s five-bedroom house in Bowden has now been put up for sale on an estate agents website.
Have them cough up £75m for DDG or get lost
100 m euros would be right including performance and target based addones.
I hope Jose will try to convince Willian to come play for us. Would be a very useful rotating option.
Should be available for around 30m GBP, right?
Should be available for around 30m GBP, right?
And he's nowhere near good enough anymore, otherwise Mourinho would have used more than he has.