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David Silva was a top player at his prime but short career peak like Mata
 

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David Silva was a top player at his prime but short career peak like Mata
What? You know that he just won City's player of the year award and has been playing on a high level for about a decade now?
 

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What? You know that he just won City's player of the year award and has been playing on a high level for about a decade now?
Player of the year of a team pretty disappointing this season. Great :)

He is no longer an impact player.
 
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Player of the year of a team pretty disappointing this season. Great :)

He is no longer an impact player.
He was fantastic for 6-7 years straight - when he returned from injury and his last season at Valencia and his first 5 seasons at City. He indeed isn't the same player in the last two years, but I wouldn't call that a short peak, far from it.
 

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He was fantastic for 6-7 years straight - when he returned from injury and his last season at Valencia and his first 5 seasons at City. He indeed isn't the same player in the last two years, but I wouldn't call that a short peak, far from it.
You & harms are certainly right. I can't say I'm one of his followers :)

Maybe I say that because my players have a career peak of 15 years :D
 
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The bugger with my card is that I could feck myself rather severely up to the very last (possible) round: It’s all about the rolls.

If I land on a “drop player” box I obviously want as big a pool as possible to pick the replacement from.

So, the “Chinese” option isn’t really on unless I’m certain I can’t end up having to replace one of my presumed starters with a sheep.

Should probably do some research in that regard (I haven’t bothered to check anything, to be honest - both Pat and Skizzo could be loaded with troublesome characters by now, or not at all).
 

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The bugger with my card is that I could feck myself rather severely up to the very last (possible) round: It’s all about the rolls.

If I land on a “drop player” box I obviously want as big a pool as possible to pick the replacement from.

So, the “Chinese” option isn’t really on unless I’m certain I can’t end up having to replace one of my presumed starters with a sheep.

Should probably do some research in that regard (I haven’t bothered to check anything, to be honest - both Pat and Skizzo could be loaded with troublesome characters by now, or not at all).
So far works in your favor tho. If you wait till the last round and have your squad done you'll be unaffected.
 

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So far works in your favor tho. If you wait till the last round and have your squad done you'll be unaffected.
I won’t, though: I could land on pat/skizz/whatever and lose a crucial player.

Like I said, I don’t know to what extent that is actually a worry, but in theory I’m not safe at all until I have 14 players.

ETA That is, I presume the card will be void if I play it after I'm done drafting myself.
 

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I'm here guys, give me 5 mins to make an impossible decision between two players.
 

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I won’t, though: I could land on pat/skizz/whatever and lose a crucial player.

Like I said, I don’t know to what extent that is actually a worry, but in theory I’m not safe at all until I have 14 players.

ETA That is, I presume the card will be void if I play it after I'm done drafting myself.
You can always sacrifice a player and pick one who ticks most of the boxes and calculate the two(throwing 2-12) you are likely to land in the last round. My take is if you are done drafting you can have advantage over the others by playing it in round 15-16 when you have a complete squad.

It's tricky situation with your card, not sure how I'd have played it myself.
 

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Btw just recently realized that Skizzo and Pat have a big advantage here - having to worry only about each other's squads in a possible drop situation, while we have 2 times more players to worry about.
 

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Btw just recently realized that Skizzo and Pat have a big advantage here - having to worry only about each other's squads in a possible drop situation, while we have 2 times more players to worry about.
Aye I've mentioned it a while back ago. They have only 3 boxes to worry about.
 

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If I had that card, I wouldn't have played it. It's application isn't as good as the ones oaencha or tuppet had/have.

A card should be helpful to the player who uses it. Both skizzo's and chester's card seems to be ones which merely ensures even if you don't benefit but everyone would lose along with you
 

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You can always sacrifice a player and pick one who ticks most of the boxes and calculate the two(throwing 2-12) you are likely to land in the last round. My take is if you are done drafting you can have advantage over the others by playing it in round 15-16 when you have a complete squad.

It's tricky situation with your card, not sure how I'd have played it myself.
Yes...that’s true.

I could use the next roll to land an expendable player who fits as many criteria as possible/necessary, thus being (relatively) safe for the last roll.

It would be almost purely to feck up others, though - I’d lose any chance of upgrading my existing options. At least if I “go Chinese” and opt for a category that would 100% (or close) guarantee shite options for everyone.
So, it becomes a question of whether you gamble on upgrading your own team - or focusing on playing it as safe as possible with the focus on fecking up others (to whatever degree).

ETA

And that’s not even taking an obvious factor into consideration: There will be injuries later on.

So, having a 14 man squad of more or less useful players is clearly preferable. The “feck up others” method involves, almost certainly, having to pick up a sheep of sorts yourself - and quite possibly wasting your last two picks (if you go for the method of picking up a sacrificial lamb before launching the card - and then going for a hopeless category to make sure nobody picks up anyone decent).
 
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If I had that card, I wouldn't have played it.
There’s that. I could simply not play it.

But ol’ EAP might not like that.

The question is, of course, what he could actually do to punish me for not playing it. Randomly replace my best player with a sheep? Could happen, I suppose.
 

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Yes...that’s true.

I could use the next roll to land an expendable player who fits as many criteria as possible/necessary, thus being (relatively) safe for the last roll.

It would be almost purely to feck up others, though - I’d lose any chance of upgrading my existing options. At least if I “go Chinese” and opt for a category that would 100% (or close) guarantee shite options for everyone.
So, it becomes a question of whether you gamble on upgrading your own team - or focusing on playing it as safe as possible with the focus on fecking up others (to whatever degree).
You have dropped only one player whilst most have dropped 2 or 3. If you use it after you are done drafting it's a win win for you -affecting others whils getting out completely unscathed.

Not sure if you can use it when you are finished drafting but I'd imagine so.
 

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There’s that. I could simply not play it.

But ol’ EAP might not like that.

The question is, of course, what he could actually do to punish me for not playing it. Randomly replace my best player with a sheep? Could happen, I suppose.
Yeah, not to be too harsh...but I think I can give you a compromise. If you tell me which round you intend to play it, I can give you your roll in advance.

Example:
In R14, you post in here you intend to play it in R15.
After you make your R14 pick, I can give you your roll in advance
You have till end of R14 to choose the restriction
R15 restricted criteria applies to all (incl yourself)
 

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This was by far the hardest decision I have had to make as there are two world class players I really wanted but I have chosen...

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P-Nut - 1. Ronaldinho (9) 2. D. De Gea (13) 3. Neymar (19) 4. DROPPED 5. A. Sanchez (26) 6. DROPPED 7. G Heinze 8. D. Alli (20) 9. B. Foulkes (3) 10. Bonucci 11. Effenberg (16) 12. M. van Bommel (26) 13. R. Pires (5)

harms - 1. DROPPED (10) 2. G. Donnarumma (20) 3. L. Figo (1) 4. R. Marquez (7) 5. L. Riva (12) 6. R. Giggs (18) 7. Carvajal 8. B. Robson (27) 9. V. Voronin (6) 10. DROPPED 11. A. Cabrini (23) 12. T. Müller (1->14) 13. R. Ayala (9)

Tuppet - 1. M. Desailly (2) 2. J. Neeskens (9) 3. DROPPED 4. D. Dzajic (19) 5. Suarez (14) 6. Van Hanegem (6) 7. A. Chivadze 8. DROPPED 9. S. Matthews (23) 10. Djalma Santos (6) 11. S. Busquets (14) 12. S. Kocsis (21) 13. D. Deschamps (26)

Onenil/ctp - 1. J. Bican (D) 2. DROPPED 3. G. Facchetti (25) 4. H. Stoichkov (4) 5. J. Bozsik (8) 6. J. Zanetti (12) 7. D. Walker 8. R. Rivellino 9. M. Neuer (23) 10. A. Vidal (25) 11. V. Vasovic (4) 12. B. Schuster (11) 13. D. Holcer (16)

Pat_Mustard - 1. R. Gullit (11) 2. A. Brehme (16) 3. DROPPED 4. P. McGrath (2) 5. Paco Gento (23) 6. DROPPED 7. Viv Anderson 8. S. Piola 9. C. Alberto (4) 10. I. Netto (6) 11.R. Benetti (16) 12. M. Tresor (23) 13. R. Kopa (1/16)

Skizzo - 1. Kaka 2. R. Dasayev 3. G. Souness 4. DROPPED 5. M. Buchan 6. R van Nistelrooy (18) 7. I. Helguera 8. D. Beckham 9. Z. Czibor (9) 10. T. Zarra (13) 11. S. Marzolini 12. G. Popescu 13. Pepe (2)

mazhar13 - 1. D. Law (4) 2. U. Seeler (11) 3. P. Nedvěd (16) 4. DROPPED 5. DROPPED 6. P. Vieira (2) 7. S. Jardine 8. K.-H. Schnellinger (10) 9. G. Buffon (16) 10. D. Irwin (18) 11. Didi (25) 12. W. Schulz (19) 13. Joaquin (7)

2mufc0 - 1. DROPPED 2. E. Davids (17) 3. P.R. Falcao (25) 4. Z. Ibrahimović (3) 5. DROPPED 6. L. Thuram (12) 7. A. Carboni 8. Gerson (23) 9. P. Evra (2) 10. Janes (8) 11. A. Hansen (16) 12. G Lato (27) 13. R. Mahrez (7)

prath92 - 1. M. Ballack (4) 2. T. Henry (10) 3. DROPPED (16) 4. C. Tevez (18) 5. DROPPED (16) 6. P. Montero (4) 7. W. Gallas 8. R. Carlos (9) 9. J. S. Veron (16) 10. M. Essien (26) 11. F. Collovati 12. E. Van der Sar (17) 13. F. Totti (23)

Chesterlestreet - 1. J. Masopust (6) 2. R. Baraja (13) 3. E. Cantona (18) 4. DROPPED (1) 5. J-P. Papin (1) 6. T. Finney (16) 7. D. Hamann 8. H. Chumpitaz (21) 9. G. Hagi (28) 10. R. Byrne (3) 11. C. Panucci (9) 12. G. Pallister (18) 13. R. Clemence (24)

Oaencha - 1. A. Del Piero 2. R. Lewandowski 3. S. Gerrard 4. DROPPED 5. S. Campbell 6. O. Dembele 7. Nelinho 8. X. Alonso 9. P. Schmeichel 10. G. Chiellini 11. DROPPED 12. D. Silva 13. Raúl

Moby - 1. D. Drogba (7) 2. DROPPED 3. A.Robben (17) 4. N. Vidic (14) 5. M. Sindelar (22) 6. R. Keane (10) 7. Sanchis 8. J. C. Valerón (13) 9. M. Tardelli (21) 10. N. Santos (27) 11. W. Suurbier (9) 12. Nasazzi

RedTiger - 1. Seedorf 2. Batistuta 3. J. Stam 4. DROPPED 5. F. Redondo 6. C. Gentile 7. Futre 8. L. Enrique 9. J. Tigana (28) 10. Handanovic 11. Albiston 12. T. Helveg

NM - 1. D. Edwards (3) 2. P. Scholes (12) 3. DROPPED (17) 4. John Charles (24) 5. Dani Alves (1) 6. Cannavaro (4) 7. van Bronckhorst (Bonus) 8. K.H. Förster (11) 9. F. Ribery (14) 10. Sane (20) 11. Hamrin (25) 12. Diego Lopez (7)

Enigma_87/Sjor - 1. DROPPED 2. R. Ferdinand (18) 3. DROPPED (26) 4. G. Mendieta (8) 5. Luis Suárez Miramontes (10) 6. K. H. Rummenigge (21) 7. J. Capdevila 8. J. Kohler (25) 9. A. Stepney (3) 10. D. Villa (5) 11. R. Rensenbrink (16) 12. Gerets (27)

Ecstatic/MDFC - 1. M. Laudrup (5) 2. Xavi (10) 3. O. Varela (19) 4. DROPPED 5. G. Bailey (1) 6. A. Shevchenko (19) 7. M. Reiziger 8. R. Krol (25) 9. Jairzinho (4) 10. L.Kubala (9) 11. D. Godin (14) 12. Conti (16)

Block list: Alfredo Di Stéfano, Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Cristiano Ronaldo, Daniel Passarella, Diego Maradona, Elias Figueroa, Eusébio, Ferenc Puskás, Franco Baresi, Franz Beckenbauer, Gaetano Scirea, Garrincha, George Best, Gerd Müller, Johan Cruyff, Lev Yashin, Lionel Messi, Lothar Matthäus, Luis Ronaldo, Marco van Basten, Matthias Sammer, Michel Platini, Paolo Maldini, Pelé, Rivaldo, Roberto Baggio, Romário, Zico, Zinedine Zidane

Dropped list: Frank Rijkaard, Samuel Eto'o, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Laurent Blanc, Philipp Lahm, Paul Breitner, Pietro Vierchowod, Giuseppe Bergomi, Kopke, Bixente Lizarazu, Jimmy Greaves, Mats Hummels, Alessandro Nesta, Oscar Ruggeri, Carles Puyol, Victor Valdes, A. Iniesta, Nobby Stiles, Cafu, P.Shilton, A. Cole, R. Donadoni, J. Mascherano, José Santamaría, Thiago Silva, Andrea Pirlo

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Yeah, not to be too harsh...but I think I can give you a compromise. If you tell me which round you intend to play it, I can give you your roll in advance.

Example:
In R14, you post in here you intend to play it in R15.
After you make your R14 pick, I can give you your roll in advance
You have till end of R14 to choose the restriction
R15 restricted criteria applies to all (incl yourself)
Cool.

I'll take that.

That could be fun, actually.
 

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Yeah, not to be too harsh...but I think I can give you a compromise. If you tell me which round you intend to play it, I can give you your roll in advance.

Example:
In R14, you post in here you intend to play it in R15.
After you make your R14 pick, I can give you your roll in advance
You have till end of R14 to choose the restriction
R15 restricted criteria applies to all (incl yourself)
That's a ridiculous compromise to pop up with. That turns it into a "screw everyone as bad as you can" card.
 

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Yeah, not to be too harsh...but I think I can give you a compromise. If you tell me which round you intend to play it, I can give you your roll in advance.

Example:
In R14, you post in here you intend to play it in R15.
After you make your R14 pick, I can give you your roll in advance
You have till end of R14 to choose the restriction
R15 restricted criteria applies to all (incl yourself)
You just gave him literally the best card at the draft, right at the end so he can skrew everybody.
 

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How about this compromise: I don't have to play the feckin' card if I don't want to.

I mean, if we're considering a compromise, that would seem like one that would satisfy all concerned - no?
 

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How about this compromise: I don't have to play the feckin' card if I don't want to.

I mean, if we're considering a compromise, that would seem like one that would satisfy all concerned - no?
Would difinitely suit us and everyone else bar Edgar :)
 

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P-Nut - 1. Ronaldinho (9) 2. D. De Gea (13) 3. Neymar (19) 4. DROPPED 5. A. Sanchez (26) 6. DROPPED 7. G Heinze 8. D. Alli (20) 9. B. Foulkes (3) 10. Bonucci 11. Effenberg (16) 12. M. van Bommel (26) 13. R. Pires (5)

harms - 1. DROPPED (10) 2. G. Donnarumma (20) 3. L. Figo (1) 4. R. Marquez (7) 5. L. Riva (12) 6. R. Giggs (18) 7. Carvajal 8. B. Robson (27) 9. V. Voronin (6) 10. DROPPED 11. A. Cabrini (23) 12. T. Müller (1->14) 13. R. Ayala (9)

Tuppet - 1. M. Desailly (2) 2. J. Neeskens (9) 3. DROPPED 4. D. Dzajic (19) 5. Suarez (14) 6. Van Hanegem (6) 7. A. Chivadze 8. DROPPED 9. S. Matthews (23) 10. Djalma Santos (6) 11. S. Busquets (14) 12. S. Kocsis (21) 13. D. Deschamps (26)

Onenil/ctp - 1. J. Bican (D) 2. DROPPED 3. G. Facchetti (25) 4. H. Stoichkov (4) 5. J. Bozsik (8) 6. J. Zanetti (12) 7. D. Walker 8. R. Rivellino 9. M. Neuer (23) 10. A. Vidal (25) 11. V. Vasovic (4) 12. B. Schuster (11) 13. D. Holcer (16)

Pat_Mustard - 1. R. Gullit (11) 2. A. Brehme (16) 3. DROPPED 4. P. McGrath (2) 5. Paco Gento (23) 6. DROPPED 7. Viv Anderson 8. S. Piola 9. C. Alberto (4) 10. I. Netto (6) 11.R. Benetti (16) 12. M. Tresor (23) 13. R. Kopa (1/16)

Skizzo - 1. Kaka 2. R. Dasayev 3. G. Souness 4. DROPPED 5. M. Buchan 6. R van Nistelrooy (18) 7. I. Helguera 8. D. Beckham 9. Z. Czibor (9) 10. T. Zarra (13) 11. S. Marzolini 12. G. Popescu 13. Pepe (2)

mazhar13 - 1. D. Law (4) 2. U. Seeler (11) 3. P. Nedvěd (16) 4. DROPPED 5. DROPPED 6. P. Vieira (2) 7. S. Jardine 8. K.-H. Schnellinger (10) 9. G. Buffon (16) 10. D. Irwin (18) 11. Didi (25) 12. W. Schulz (19) 13. Joaquin (7)

2mufc0 - 1. DROPPED 2. E. Davids (17) 3. P.R. Falcao (25) 4. Z. Ibrahimović (3) 5. DROPPED 6. L. Thuram (12) 7. A. Carboni 8. Gerson (23) 9. P. Evra (2) 10. Janes (8) 11. A. Hansen (16) 12. G Lato (27) 13. R. Mahrez (7)

prath92 - 1. M. Ballack (4) 2. T. Henry (10) 3. DROPPED (16) 4. C. Tevez (18) 5. DROPPED (16) 6. P. Montero (4) 7. W. Gallas 8. R. Carlos (9) 9. J. S. Veron (16) 10. M. Essien (26) 11. F. Collovati 12. E. Van der Sar (17) 13. F. Totti (23)

Chesterlestreet - 1. J. Masopust (6) 2. R. Baraja (13) 3. E. Cantona (18) 4. DROPPED (1) 5. J-P. Papin (1) 6. T. Finney (16) 7. D. Hamann 8. H. Chumpitaz (21) 9. G. Hagi (28) 10. R. Byrne (3) 11. C. Panucci (9) 12. G. Pallister (18) 13. R. Clemence (24)

Oaencha - 1. A. Del Piero 2. R. Lewandowski 3. S. Gerrard 4. DROPPED 5. S. Campbell 6. O. Dembele 7. Nelinho 8. X. Alonso 9. P. Schmeichel 10. G. Chiellini 11. DROPPED 12. D. Silva 13. Raúl

Moby - 1. D. Drogba (7) 2. DROPPED 3. A.Robben (17) 4. N. Vidic (14) 5. M. Sindelar (22) 6. R. Keane (10) 7. Sanchis 8. J. C. Valerón (13) 9. M. Tardelli (21) 10. N. Santos (27) 11. W. Suurbier (9) 12. J. Nasazzi (16) 13. D. Zoff (21)

RedTiger - 1. Seedorf 2. Batistuta 3. J. Stam 4. DROPPED 5. F. Redondo 6. C. Gentile 7. Futre 8. L. Enrique 9. J. Tigana (28) 10. Handanovic 11. Albiston 12. T. Helveg

NM - 1. D. Edwards (3) 2. P. Scholes (12) 3. DROPPED (17) 4. John Charles (24) 5. Dani Alves (1) 6. Cannavaro (4) 7. van Bronckhorst (Bonus) 8. K.H. Förster (11) 9. F. Ribery (14) 10. Sane (20) 11. Hamrin (25) 12. Diego Lopez (7)

Enigma_87/Sjor - 1. DROPPED 2. R. Ferdinand (18) 3. DROPPED (26) 4. G. Mendieta (8) 5. Luis Suárez Miramontes (10) 6. K. H. Rummenigge (21) 7. J. Capdevila 8. J. Kohler (25) 9. A. Stepney (3) 10. D. Villa (5) 11. R. Rensenbrink (16) 12. Gerets (27)

Ecstatic/MDFC - 1. M. Laudrup (5) 2. Xavi (10) 3. O. Varela (19) 4. DROPPED 5. G. Bailey (1) 6. A. Shevchenko (19) 7. M. Reiziger 8. R. Krol (25) 9. Jairzinho (4) 10. L.Kubala (9) 11. D. Godin (14) 12. Conti (16)

Block list: Alfredo Di Stéfano, Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Cristiano Ronaldo, Daniel Passarella, Diego Maradona, Elias Figueroa, Eusébio, Ferenc Puskás, Franco Baresi, Franz Beckenbauer, Gaetano Scirea, Garrincha, George Best, Gerd Müller, Johan Cruyff, Lev Yashin, Lionel Messi, Lothar Matthäus, Luis Ronaldo, Marco van Basten, Matthias Sammer, Michel Platini, Paolo Maldini, Pelé, Rivaldo, Roberto Baggio, Romário, Zico, Zinedine Zidane

Dropped list: Frank Rijkaard, Samuel Eto'o, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Laurent Blanc, Philipp Lahm, Paul Breitner, Pietro Vierchowod, Giuseppe Bergomi, Kopke, Bixente Lizarazu, Jimmy Greaves, Mats Hummels, Alessandro Nesta, Oscar Ruggeri, Carles Puyol, Victor Valdes, A. Iniesta, Nobby Stiles, Cafu, P.Shilton, A. Cole, R. Donadoni, J. Mascherano, José Santamaría, Thiago Silva, Andrea Pirlo

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Yeah I meant 3 criterias to watch for which is nice. Even one player can cover that.
I had one covering all four and when I finally land Pat drops Pirlo.

Tough decision here:

- I have the R1 XI sorted bar GK
- I have a different frontline in mind than the one forced on me via Futre. Have 1/2 sorted.

Do I drop a quality starting WC player and risk it all going tits up at the back (but that delivers the other half up front)?

Or do I drop the first 1/2 which is currently a sub?
 

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It works when you are have a bad roll. Cards can't cancel each other.
You made that rule like right now ? It doesn't say anything like that in the description of my (or any other) card. I could have picked players in my previous turns who give me an out from Pat me down box but I did not, believing that I have a card which I'll just use to get out of it on the basis of what you've written on the description of card.
 

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You made that rule like right now ? It doesn't say anything like that in the description of my (or any other) card. I could have picked players in my previous turns who give me an out from Pat me down box but I did not, believing that I have a card which I'll just use to get out of it on the basis of what you've written on the description of card.
It really is not a rule. Just that people can use prizes without getting them cancelled. You still have lots of options and it's not really screwing you over badly.
 

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You just gave him literally the best card at the draft, right at the end so he can skrew everybody.
The worst case scenario for everyone else is that I choose a generally shite restriction that would benefit me, specifically. And then, there’s degrees of that. It comes down to the nature of the box. I could probably make sure that I land a better player than anyone else, but I won’t necessarily be able to land a world beater with everyone else ending up sheeped.
 

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How about this compromise: I don't have to play the feckin' card if I don't want to.

I mean, if we're considering a compromise, that would seem like one that would satisfy all concerned - no?
Nah, that's boring. A reasonable compromise @Edgar Allan Pillow and one that makes it an easier bodyguard option is allowing the inverse. E.g. can't pick Dutch players, instead of can ONLY pick Dutch players.

There must be a club/country/manager Chester isn't even remotely considering yet one that could be an arse for others.