Rebecca Joynes: Teacher found guilty of sexual activity with a child
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is she getting much sympathy then? doesn't look like it
also why bring male privilege into it?
also why bring male privilege into it?
I think there is less vilification, mainly from a certain type of bloke (go on son!) who doesn't see this as the same as a girl being groomed by a male teacher.
I think there's a perception of leniency being extended to female teachers who are at least mildly attractive because most men wouldn't have objected to a hot teacher wanting to do them when they were 13 or 14.
Not sure if that's actually how things go but the perception is there.
Not sure if that's actually how things go but the perception is there.
yeah I get that aspect, and there's obviously some truth to that, but whenever a case like this comes along in the UK it seems like people jump on it to make the same point, often with the implication that male privilege is a myth
She's in court, has her face in the papers, she's getting agro online, will lose her job for sure and likely some other rights (if not her freedom)...
Now if the sentencing is more lenient than a bloke, then yeah, that's obviously not something I would agree with
I think the point he's making is that it's not treated the same by the public
If it were a bloke they wouldn't be able to show their face in that town again, not just having people drag him online
probably be safer in prison than their home for a when people find out about itI'll try to avoid lazy commentary about perceived general inequality in the courts, but sentences are allowed to be based on the impact of the crime on the victims and the impact of sentencing on the perpetrator so public attitudes to the issue can actually have an influence
Sentencing for these crimes usually indicate that duration in prison is much more lenient when it is a female teacher/male student than when it is a male teacher/female student.I think the point he's making is that it's not treated the same by the public
If it were a bloke they wouldn't be able to show their face in that town again, not just having people drag him online
I'll try to avoid lazy commentary about perceived general inequality in the courts, but sentences are allowed to be based on the impact of the crime on the victims and the impact of sentencing on the perpetrator so public attitudes to the issue can actually have an influence
Crazy now how many female teachers are getting caught having sex with pupils, especially in America. I seen a video where some expert was interviewed and he said its because they are watching teacher/student porn on the web and they just take it to the next level - completely lose any sense of right and wrong.
Yeah that is a fair point I’d agree with, especially if the pupil was underageI think the point he's making is that it's not treated the same by the public
If it were a bloke they wouldn't be able to show their face in that town again, not just having people drag him online
I'll try to avoid lazy commentary about perceived general inequality in the courts, but sentences are allowed to be based on the impact of the crime on the victims and the impact of sentencing on the perpetrator so public attitudes to the issue can actually have an influence
but that point can be made, as you’ve just demonstrated, without bringing male privilege into it
For me that’s almost as redundant as climate change denialists using short term weather trends as evidence it’s all a hoax, or racists mentioning they have black friends as proof they’re not racist
Go on son!
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Who in their right mind would snitch?
That porn plot line isn't exactly new though.
Shot. Chaser.
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...Who in their right mind would snitch?
Haha child abuse is funny
Someone who doesn't want an adult taking advantage of a child?Who in their right mind would snitch?
I agree, it's not even the correct use of the term privilege for what they are intending to dismiss and the point of women abusing children being 'treated better than men' that they are really raising as 'privilege' can also be explained logically and just as persuasively through a feminist lens so it's not a good attempt at a dunk
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The fact that she kept the baby, knowing full well it could never have a relationship with its father, is particularly gruesome
The Sun has been calling her a paedo all week. They revel in it when they get to do so or call a serial killer a bastard.
It's up to her if she wants an abortion or not.
That's a bit of a weird take.
Should mothers whose partners die while they're pregnant get abortions too?
Yeah, nothing speaks safe like being a chomo in prison.If it were a bloke they wouldn't be able to show their face in that town again, not just having people drag him online
I’m not sure how this relates to my post but I’m hungover so maybe best to ignore me
But why would anyone want to the mainstream media to label her a pedo? That’s not true is it?
I didn't say you'd be safe in prison, but they usually put the sex offenders away from other types of offenders, while at home you may get accosted by a mob
Your second source mentions "the woke system". Great starting point for a healthy debate about the whole thing.
Would not be surprised if she dodges a custodial sentence completely.
So you want enforced abortion?
She raped a minor. If the shoe was on the other foot and it was a female who was raped we wouldn’t be clamouring for the child to be born would we
It's a tricky issue but ultimately can you enforce an abortion? I don't think the powers that be should have such a right.
If you could guarantee the child would be raised in good home then I'd be more optimistic but that's not guaranteed.
There isn't an easy answer...
It's up to child services if she sees the child.
It's not a source, it's a tweet with a different link? Twitter isn't a source.
Of course it is. But your point was: "it's particularly gruesome that she kept the baby, knowing full well it could never have a relationship with its father".
She's a weird one, has been in court with her child's bonnet tucked into her waist band or in her pocket.
Just read the story. Appalling. Genuinely shocking.
£325 for a belt…?!?!
£325 for a belt…?!?!
I don't think you needed the second part of the sentence to confirm the first.
Nor is the "expert" assertion that some form of media is responsible for society's ills.
Helluva choice of image
nah but most would agree it’s the mothers choice
In that scenario the mother would almost always want to abort, surely
If this was a male teacher and a female student he would be labeled as a paedo, the reverse should be and is true.
15 year old's, male or female, are below the age of consent, if they have sex with an adult then that is rape, doesn't matter if it is "consensual" because at 15 they don't have the capability in the eyes of the law to consent.
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They get labelled paedo if they're prepubescent.
If they've gone through puberty, it's still grooming etc but not necessarily paedophilic. There's an actual term for it but I can't remember...ebebophile(sp?)
Technically yes, but in common parlance it doesn't matter.