If Maguire, Jones, Elanga, Greenwood, Butland etc are leaving then we need to replace the English leavers due to rules and regs and the 3 mentioned would be obvious upgrades on the outs.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
These three improve our depth but still someway short of City.
I'd sooner leave Mount, sign Rabiot on a free and get a new GK though.
I'd sooner leave Mount, sign Rabiot on a free and get a new GK though.
It’s weird, I look at those names and it doesn’t bring any excitement even though I know they’d massively improve the squad if we got all 3. They are kinda like shopping at IKEA. Functional.
As inspiring as ole brexit season
why I am trying to stay away from British players. Kane is the only one I would take. Better value in the market elsewhere than Rice and Mount
Costa is 2nd priority for me. Think the importance of having a sweeper keeper in modern football especially the way Ten Hag wants to play is crucial to pushing on.
Just hire Brighton's scouting team as its pretty obvious we dont have one.
I wonder if we are targeting these 3 maybe because we have been bought by Qatar and have decided to avoid the PSG route of buying flashy new foreign toys first.
Buy the best English players available to the core and then add the flashy players in our weaker positions්.
Buy the best English players available to the core and then add the flashy players in our weaker positions්.
Was listening to the totally football podcast the other day and they were saying rice doesn't really play as a sitting midfielder anymore, he's much more dynamic and plays a bit further forwards. Would be a really great addition if true I think to play with and even cover casemiro. Two players in one really.
I am not sure if Rice is the best option out there, I will keep repeating we should go all in for Caicedo even if we can't afford Mount I think we can find an alternative. But even with those 3 I'd be very happy.
Mount is the biggest question mark for me and it's weird we're going for him first.
Mount is the biggest question mark for me and it's weird we're going for him first.
It would be a great transfer window but not perfect. Would prefer a CB instead of Mount.
Kane+Rice should give us at least 10 points more in the league alone.
Kane+Rice should give us at least 10 points more in the league alone.
Kane would substantially improve the first team, the other two would be good squad players. So it's not a bad window but it isn't very exciting either. They would cost a massive amount of money without really bridging the gap to City because they wouldn't improve the overall quality of our football. Or at least not significantly.
People are smoking crack if they think we will sign Rice for 90/100 mill and Mount 50/60 mill as bench players. Yes even squad players will get game time and yada yada yada but they are still bench players. Come to a big game or semi final and they will sit on the bench. Thats a bench player. Not first choice. And Rice and Mount will not do that. And yes City have good expensive bench players but when you win titles repeatedly and have oil money you can do that. Rice and Mount in means Casemiro and Eriksen out. Better? Certainly younger.
I would have preferred a different profile of midfielder but objectively speaking - that would be a brilliant window. Don’t see it happening tbh. Arsenal will probably get Rice and Kane will find it hard to move. And ffp is an issue too.
We also still need a new GK.
We also still need a new GK.
And we have bought how many unknown players who turned out to be good prospects and players?
So it would have been a yes otherwise?
I agree on this.
in the current first team squad we have Garnacho, Dalot and Malacia with Amad and Hannibal looking close to stepping up
How many players did other big clubs sign? Only club I can think of who did good job at this is Bayern, signing few players on cheap and unknowns.
Rest all big clubs sign obvious players, only difference is they get it done at decent price.
Rice 
Kane's my first choice striker signing. And that's the most important position. So I'd take this very happily.
I think we can get more suitable signings than Rice for half the money. But if we have the money to spend, then fine - there's no arguing with Rice's qualities and with him and Casemiro we'd have a really solid CM for the big games.
I've always thought Mount was a really, really average footballer. I'd take him as a DVB upgrade for £30m or so (which is what we should be paying for an outcast who has asked to leave). Any more than that, there are free transfers or academy promotions that would be more worthwhile.
I think we can get more suitable signings than Rice for half the money. But if we have the money to spend, then fine - there's no arguing with Rice's qualities and with him and Casemiro we'd have a really solid CM for the big games.
I've always thought Mount was a really, really average footballer. I'd take him as a DVB upgrade for £30m or so (which is what we should be paying for an outcast who has asked to leave). Any more than that, there are free transfers or academy promotions that would be more worthwhile.
I think I would be whelmed. Just whelmed.
it's that age old debate though, is a croissant, bread or pastry. Once Eric figures that out, the correct signings will follow.
I think people really undersell how good Kane is. It would be like the year we added Van Persie. If Kane was in our squad this season we would have finished 10-12 points higher than we did, which means we would have challenged for the title.
Mount is a brilliant squad option, allows us to play many different ways, British quota.
The one I wouldn’t want is weirdly Rice. I appreciate his qualities but he’d be the most expensive of the three and arguably would have the least impact. I’d much rather we looked around Europe for a more technical player in that position.
Mount is a brilliant squad option, allows us to play many different ways, British quota.
The one I wouldn’t want is weirdly Rice. I appreciate his qualities but he’d be the most expensive of the three and arguably would have the least impact. I’d much rather we looked around Europe for a more technical player in that position.
I don’t think we are looking at signing a technical midfield playmaker this summer,however could still move for a Rabiot or a pure number 6 to cover Casa when we have sold a couple.
Imagine the meltdown on here if we only signed English players...
Mount - Good player; great presser and will be much better than people think.
Kane - World class; best striker around outside of Haaland.
Rice - Very good midfielder
Mount - Good player; great presser and will be much better than people think.
Kane - World class; best striker around outside of Haaland.
Rice - Very good midfielder
Amazing even though I'd still be a bit puzzled by our decision to go for Mount when there are other players like Kim, Frimpong and Raya who would improve us more imo. That being said Kane and Rice would be my dream signings so can't complain
Most have started that already looking at thread
I doubt we have enough money for all this. Spurs aren't letting Kane leave for less than 100m.
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None of them are first choice players yet, altough Garnacho is good shout in general considering he wasn't well known, and didn't cost a lot. Amad cost us a lot for his years and lack of experience, so obviously he wasn't some scouting discovery, but rather already top young player who was chased by many clubs, but judging how much he cost he hasn't shown anything for us yet(I am not doubting him btw, just saying that so far he hasn't proved anything).
Lisandro Martinez is the type of transfer I am talking about, and we had about 2 of those transfers in the last ten years despite spending enormous amount of money. But then I am quite sure Lisandro too was recommendation from Ten Hag more than from our scouts.
I don't see a meltdown here should this come to pass.
On an individual basis, we could do better than Mount, realistically can't do better than Kane (although questions about his age are not daft) and maybe could do better than Rice (Caicedo), but backing the zoom lens out if what we did and only did were these three, that's a very decent summer transfer window for us, putting us in a position to finally put in a proper title challenge.
We could still do with a backup CB, but this thread is about Rice Mount Kane so I'll leave it at that.
I'd be happy with the three if them. Very much doubt we'd be able to afford all three however
Southgate will complete this.
I like the way you think.
It would get us 2nd at best. The reality is to win the league you need 2 world/top class 11s and those three players won't do it.
I see Kane and Rice as world class players tbh and Mount as a really good squad option. It would be a solid window and consolidate top four at least. Given where we were last season I’d be willing to wait another summer transfer window after this one in order to add more to then challenge for the league.
this is besides the point though
no team can fill their entire quad with buys like Kane and Rice
the squad needs to be filled with some youth players and cheap finds from the scouts, as it’s simply not affordable to do it any other way
so going back to your original comment it’s nonsensical to fire the scouting staff just because we want to buy a couple of high profile players