It'll all depend on which gets approved first as to what the UK will deploy as the first vaccine. I imagine at some point we'll have all three mentioned, plus more, in circulation, with a longer term mass deployment focus on the Oxford vaccine. They need orders in for all on the off chance, that one doesn't pass approvals.
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Anyone know which vaccine results is next up? Should be a bit of wait for this one, right?
So if as they suggest the Oxford vaccine will be given to front line and elderly are they doing this without said vaccine being approved.
I'm just being impatient if honest. Its incredible how fast they are being with these vaccines considering how long this stuff typically takes.
I imagine they will be working with the Federal Government on this one as how to open the International borders without is one of our greatest challenges.
I'd be surprised if that were possible to the extent you could use it as justification for a loosening of restrictions.
Lots are in or about to start phase 3 trials but I haven't heard of any others that are close to the end of phase 3.
Jansenn (Johnson and Johnson)?
- though I think they've now started another phase 3 trial using a two dose vaccine (they started off with a single dose protocol) which I guess may mean they didn't get the results they were hoping for on the singles dose. They were expected to publish before Christmas
Novavax
- expecting results in early Q1 from the UK trial, but as the US trials are only just starting, they might not release much until they can report US data as well.
I think a couple of Chinese vaccines are in Phase 3 in Brazil and elsewhere + emergency use in China and I think Russia's got one at a similar stage as well.
Nice tracker at:
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020-coronavirus-drug-vaccine-status/
No, it still needs to go through the relevant approvals before being deployed.
So why can't it be given to more people than just front line and elderly.
It has to be manufactured, distributed and administered and that takes time. I'm sure all governments will want every available dose used as fast as possible so you assume they know there will be a limited supply at first so they are targeting priority groups.
The Uni of Queensland vaccine is about to start phase 3 trials as well.
Ok thats what I thought. Again what an amazing achievement.
No doubt. But, I just heard that over a million of Americans have gone through airports since last Friday, roughly 45% of what it was same day last year, never have approached this close of percentage. Don’t think all of these traveling this year have emergent family issues with to deal with. It’s one holiday, not even that old in this country, one of more secular ones. Skip it. Why compound the problem & bring it home or to other family? It’s just one holiday.
This government has been consistent in warning against any sizable travel for Thanksgiving, albeit perhaps more muted vs. previous administrations. Many governments aren’t shrouding themselves in glory, no doubt about that, but humans themselves are not absolved from any blame in all this.
Agreed but many governments haven't done enough to encourage good behaviour and they are meant to be the adults in the room.
It really is. Imagine what it would be like if the vaccines had failed or taken many years to deliver. Bad enough even with the continued good news.
Again, we don’t disagree. But there appears to be little public regard for critical mass being reached in health care systems & governmental institutions. There’s still too much grey area in the lives of millions outside of the inherent risks of providing for one’s livelihood, a bit too much hubris & not enough altruism.
Medical science and science itself continues to astound me.
These people are such crooks. Never seizes to amaze me.
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Reposting an article from a couple of weeks back for anyone thinking about Christmas etc and meeting up with family, or trying to explain to relatives why you don't think the family should meet up. What's nice is that it also covers risk reduction if you are meeting up.
https://english.elpais.com/society/...he-coronavirus-is-spread-through-the-air.html
Shorter visits, ventilation, turn the background music down so you don't have to shout, avoid sitting face to face - all may help. As, of course, would a commitment from everyone to avoid other kinds of contact in the week before.
Take the specific numbers it mentions as coming with lots of "more or less" provisos, but the broad sweep is probably accurate.
https://english.elpais.com/society/...he-coronavirus-is-spread-through-the-air.html
Shorter visits, ventilation, turn the background music down so you don't have to shout, avoid sitting face to face - all may help. As, of course, would a commitment from everyone to avoid other kinds of contact in the week before.
Take the specific numbers it mentions as coming with lots of "more or less" provisos, but the broad sweep is probably accurate.
Somewhat unrelated but I’d love to go to the French Laundry. Thomas Keller is a genius.
No, just lazy
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Posted because we all know international covid competitiveness is a highly constructive and rewarding use of our time.
Sweden currently mounting an impressive charge up the table.
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Man what on earth has Belgium done to drag their numbers back so drastically?
You might get to first! Finland is rising a bit. Well Iceland is now lowest actually, don't know why it is cut from that table.
I would have said that they had/have a lock-down, but I was told in this thread that those don't work, so I don’t know.
No easing off at xmas in NL by tje sounds of it. Quite right too. Talking about extending holidays for school.
You have to laugh at that gormless twat Matt Hancock. Now he’s asking why people in Britain think it’s acceptable to go to work when you’re sick? Maybe it has something to do with the appalling sick pay people get or the fact their own civil service issue out warnings once you pass 8 days absence in 12 months.
He is so out of touch. As if people are "soldiering on" , fecking idiot .
They need to extend the Christmas holidays by a week before Christmas and ideally a week after Christmas too.
The last week of term is a massive waste of time anyways
The last week of term is a massive waste of time anyways
Struggling to understand how this makes any sense at all.
Covid-19: Three households can mix over Christmas in UK
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55064962
Covid-19: Three households can mix over Christmas in UK
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55064962
Nice of the virus to agree to take five days off. I suppose even killer viruses need a holiday.
853 deaths in Italy
For UK , the north west cases are coming down quite a bit now.
For UK , the north west cases are coming down quite a bit now.
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I think today's case numbers look strangely low, in England alone the new case numbers are half of what they were last week. Something doesn't look right in the data.
Have you been waiting for this opportunity
Hard to believe the FDA could approve one of these within a few weeks and patients and essential workers could be getting shots before Christmas.
Bloody brilliant Christmas present.
Leveled off in this decade, but leveling off for Keller is still a level unattainable by most.