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Though, how many people have jobs that can be done from home? My mums a carer, maybe she should bring the elderly home with her.
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Fake news. Wilson lives on his own island so safe from everything apart from stingrays.I knew I recognised that picture of Hanks with Wilson.
Here's the original - somebody threw him a Wilson ball at an NFL game:
Feck. I hope his wife doesn't get it otherwise it'll be 100% infection rate.So there's even a coronavirus case in French Polynesia.
They have a good idea that it is probably around 1% - in thexrangecof 0.5-1.5% most likely. 5 to 15% higher than the flu.No one knows the mortality rate for the healthy and fit though do they? That’s the problem.
A she, actually.Feck. I hope his wife doesn't get it otherwise it'll be 100% infection rate.
From what I've read for people under 40 is 0.2%, for 40-49 is 0.4%. It reaches over 1% for people who are over 60.They have a good idea that it is probably around 1% - in thexrangecof 0.5-1.5% most likely. 5 to 15% higher than the flu.
Those aren't the options.Genuine question. One from the films and books. You’re in charge and you’ve got the choice of the following:
1) 500,000 of your most vulnerable and elderly will die quickly if you don’t act to close everything (borders, schools, travel, leisure) but you’ll protect the long term future of the country and minimise future deaths.
2) You protect everyone early on and put in huge restrictions to daily life. The rate of infection goes down slowly and deaths plateau. But the virus continues for 5-10 years with only hope of a virus to sort it out. Death rate in the tens of millions
Clearly. UK's strategy is survival of the fittest.Saw this....
I posted this before using 70%:
Herd immunity develops at around 70% coverage.
Let's run some numbers:
UK pop: 67 million
70% infected, so 47 million people
2.35 million needing ICU care (5%)
Total ICU beds in UK: 4000
Typical ICU bed occupancy rate: 75%
Typical available ICU beds: 1000
Typical duration in ICU for Covid: 2 weeks
Time required to get through Covid patients without kicking out normal ICU patients: 4700 weeks, or 90 years.
The 'herd immunity' strategy is basically the 'no ICU' strategy.
Let's not even talk about how coronaviruses typically don't result in long-term immunity.
Forced to get infected or forced to stay inside? Hmm... really isn't a hard choice.Well the UK's strategy seems to be let the virus infect 60% of the population which is around 40m...
So everyone can just fit onto the isle of man when all is said and done.Clearly. UK's strategy is survival of the fittest.
No. 4 out of 5 people will have manageable symptoms. It won’t progress to something that the lungs and CNS can’t handle.This is my worry. Flu is awful, you can barely function. Is Covid-19 like that? These details tend to be missing as they've focused on numbers and worst case scenarios rather than explaining what most people will feel like...
I was just doing some basic maths by looking at age demographics and the current death percentages.Saw this....
I posted this before using 70%:
Herd immunity develops at around 70% coverage.
Let's run some numbers:
UK pop: 67 million
70% infected, so 47 million people
2.35 million needing ICU care (5%)
Total ICU beds in UK: 4000
Typical ICU bed occupancy rate: 75%
Typical available ICU beds: 1000
Typical duration in ICU for Covid: 2 weeks
Time required to get through Covid patients without kicking out normal ICU patients: 4700 weeks, or 90 years.
The 'herd immunity' strategy is basically the 'no ICU' strategy.
Let's not even talk about how coronaviruses typically don't result in long-term immunity.
Hence why it’s ‘one from the films/books‘? It’s also not NOT the options is itThose aren't the options.
Herd immunity is far harder to achieve with a virus than a bacteria as viruses hide within cells. When it does work at least to some degree it puts evolutionary pressure on the virus often resulting in a rapid evolution of novel new strains that we are far less immune to.Saw this....
I posted this before using 70%:
Herd immunity develops at around 70% coverage.
Let's run some numbers:
UK pop: 67 million
70% infected, so 47 million people
2.35 million needing ICU care (5%)
Total ICU beds in UK: 4000
Typical ICU bed occupancy rate: 75%
Typical available ICU beds: 1000
Typical duration in ICU for Covid: 2 weeks
Time required to get through Covid patients without kicking out normal ICU patients: 4700 weeks, or 90 years.
The 'herd immunity' strategy is basically the 'no ICU' strategy.
Let's not even talk about how coronaviruses typically don't result in long-term immunity.
Can you tell us what Germany is doing to contain it? Not read of anything significant, both doing localized school closures, both eventually called the football off having just played with full crowds, Leipzig Spurs for example.. With Merkel saying 70% of German could be infected, that would be a lot of deaths as well and she's advised not to close the borders. Maybe you could include Germany in your uncontrolled spread jibe?Seems a bit exaggerated to me, considering the numbers we got so far.
Currently ~5000 dead worldwide, including ~3000 from China. Shutdowns and limitation of social interactions should limit the spread pretty well. Realistically speaking we are looking at 10k - 20k deaths max in Europe. (UK not included because uncontrolled spread might dwarf the numbers massively.)
At least that's what I hope for.
Edit: Maybe I just don't want to envision anything worse.
No doubt Trump is looking for a way to profit from this for the elections.It’s really irritating me that the approach to control this thing is seemingly being, at the very least, influenced by politics.
How do people still not understand the concept of exponential growth?Seems a bit exaggerated to me, considering the numbers we got so far.
Currently ~5000 dead worldwide, including ~3000 from China. Shutdowns and limitation of social interactions should limit the spread pretty well. Realistically speaking we are looking at 10k - 20k deaths max in Europe. (UK not included because uncontrolled spread might dwarf the numbers massively.)
Not for this thread then.Hence why it’s ‘one from the films/books‘? It’s also not NOT the options is it
More fake news.....then again I suppose Germany is in La La land for you to exclude it from countries that have refused to shut up shop. And if you care to research a wee bit more you will find other countries also deciding not to shut up shop at this stage.The irony of the Brexit Government being of the only ones in Europe refusing to close up shop.
You should include some detail when posting something like that.My new prevision about Italy analyzing the latest data and the trend, I created this on excel
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What? That doesn't even make fecking sense! What an idiot.There's no condoms at Fabregas' house.
Meanwhile the scouse are blaming woke millenial snowflakes for this too
I don't know. People do it all the the time and in this case I don't really get it, we should help each others, make sure that the most vulnerable are safe and we can have a nasty competition when the Euros finally come around. Hopefully England miserably fail and lose all its games.Why are some people here trying to make this a competition with the UK as to who is dealing with things the best and then having a dig all the time. Petty wankers.
I don't get it either. Especially when this is a Manchester United forum - an English football club.I don't know. People do it all the the time and in this case I don't really get it, we should help each others, make sure that the most vulnerable are safe and we can have a nasty competition when the Euros finally come around. Hopefully England miserably fail and lose all its games.
Because..How do people still not understand the concept of exponential growth?
Russia hasn't been affected badly at all from what I hear from my relatives. Also, Russia is huge but otherwise the population is only 140 million or so. They've got quite strict rules in place if one doesn't isolate -- up to 5 years in prison -- and you can bet your bottom dollar those sentences will be handed down. Also, I absolutely hear nothing from VK (russian social media platform akin to Facebook) which to my knowledge isn't as censored as some would have you believe. I see plenty of articles criticising the central government and lots of comments so I don't expect this to be censored either. So I think thankfully Russia are coping well at the minute. I've no idea about India though.I'm not hearing much about countries like Russia or India which are obviously massively populated. How are they holding up?
It's weird, and I don't get it at all.Why are some people here trying to make this a competition with the UK as to who is dealing with things the best and then having a dig all the time. Petty wankers.
What 'United is an English club' has anything to do with 'UK government fecking things up by doing nothing'?I don't get it either. Especially when this is a Manchester United forum - an English football club.
You're spot on though. We should be trying to help each other and offer reassurance, support and advice.
If you read the massive one sentence post properly I didn’t say we’re the only country not to take this step.More fake news.....then again I suppose Germany is in La La land for you to exclude it from countries that have refused to shut up shop. And if you care to research a wee bit more you will find other countries also deciding not to shut up shop at this stage.
Russia hasn't been affected badly at all from what I hear from my relatives. Also, Russia is huge but otherwise the population is only 140 million or so. They've got quite strict rules in place if one doesn't isolate -- up to 5 years in prison -- and you can bet your bottom dollar those sentences will be handed down.