Honestly don't know how to thank you and your staff but fecking hell does your industry deserve some love in the coming weeks/months.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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Grand National called off
If you can, buy old fashioned ones as well. That way if you run out you can rock out the old ones which can be rewashed
My niece is one of the UK’s top gynaecologists and even she’s on standby to be drafted in.
Just kill them. They are idiots - we already know this
Prof Azra Ghani is one of the most qualified people to speak about this as well.
Don't know if it's already been posted but guardian saying ebay seller in midlands selling toilet roll 72 pack for £51 quid?
Had a stash and people are buying.
Had a stash and people are buying.
That's irrelevant at this stage as this novel virus is just that, novel.
Might be worth remaking that image in a year from now for a better perspective as it's a bit like putting Salford in with the long established teams and comparing fan totals.
Used reusable ones, my sister in law does it and people have been looking at her like she's insane. She must feel like a bloody genius at the moment.
Says 6,400 now over 7000 after one day
My wife and I had the same around the same time.
Just want to say thank you for the work you're doing. My girlfriend is a doctor in an emergency room, and she had to self isolate after contact with a confirmed case (before the hospital had bothered giving them PPE), and its terrified me, being worried about her.
So thank you, to you and all the other medical professionals in this thread.
I believe you.
However, they seem to present it in a way as if they're sure about it. There's little 'doubt' in the communication, just the odd note that it may 'take long':
Yeah. Lockdown is a medical necessity, at this point. Governments need to help people who would lose pay, though. This is an emergency - we cannot abandon people
I read at least 4-5 companies are starting a trial. It's really great news, but I also read these vaccines cannot hit the market for at least 12-18 months.
Quote from the paper (my bold):
I must be missing something because to me that reads like the UK pursued one plan only to realise in the last few days what posters here have been saying for ages, that the health service would be massively overwhelmed?
I honestly don't think this is the right thread to start ranting about the Government but yes, it's bizarre, frustrating and just insane.
It does very much read like that. The 'led by science' quote is such a terrible soundbite. It is perfectly ok to challenge the science and it is normal for the science to change. The lack of transparency is something that needs to change as soon as possible and the media needs pull its finger out in ensuring that happens (seem to be having a bit of an election hangover when it comes to holding people to account).
Is that what it actually says though? I must be misreading it because they can't actually have fecked up that badly.
@Dante has been defending the government's position a bit, what do you make of it?
Is a government shutdown really not happening so businesses cant claim of insurance? Thats absurd if true
Not only capacity will be exceeded, but it's also extremely dangerous to use all existing ICUs/beds for Corona patients. What about other patients? How do you isolate and where do you treat them? Instead we should be building emergency field treatment centers, as soon as possible. And both UK as well as US are more than capable of doing it. In both cases, military engineers can help with this and we have money. US already did something like this (smaller scale) during Ebola outbreak. There are actually things that can be used in a situation like this, we are not helpless. It's just that, as if out of spite, we had to get the most incompetent and irresponsible governments right when we need good government.
Yep. Who knew?
It's almost as if the Government don't listen to those that work in the NHS and instead rely on 'expert' advice. They've never listened to frontline staff.
Twats.
54 new cases in Ireland.
Unsurprising given we've ramped up testing.
And the problem is that not only they can't be sure about it but several months means that thousands of people will be die due to actions taken knowing that they will definitely cause death. As I have said in this thread, in theory I udnersdtand the logic but this isn't an abstact model, we are talking about real life crisis management with real people dying and potentially physicians and nurses melting down.
Seems that way
At this point I don't know what to believe anymore.
It wouldn't surprise me if governments are telling the odd white lie here and there to reduce panic and protect certain interests.
From talking to my peers, communication is pretty rubbish up and down the country right now. Some of my community/district nursing friends also recieved an email today asking about thier social/family status, training and skillsets. I think they are building a contingency plan to put in place if and when the majority of staff become ill and need to be covered. I for one know that my DN friends in the community, the majority have no training to work in ED/ICU and certainly not with the specific PPE equipment nor have they had fittings. I do know that they, along with retired nurses, student nurses and other school nurses will be asked to cover for those who are trained.
I hope this is also the case for you as it can be utterly daunting. I'm not an ED/ICU nurse but I've had some training and a fitting but still, even in triage all we get is normal PPE gear that you find a normal ward. I wouldn't be surprised if I am infected to be honest.
Yep, exactly what it reads like to me as well. Bizarre, but yeah a lot of people have been saying it for days.
I think they’re employing nudge theory. Its something they’re seemingly big fans of. The idea is that if you don’t go authoritarian and draconian straight way you get more patience from the public in the longer run. If you listen to Boris’s speech today you hear nudge theory ideas throughout it. My guess is that enforced closures will happen before long.
And given how stupid people are acting
Knew it would go up a bit in Ireland the GP line has been busy 24/7 and testing has gone through the roof. Can see it increasing to 60+ tomorrow aswell
I think they already did that as far back as December.
N/A's shit and piss sanitizer I guess
You do ask lot of stupid questions here, don't you?
Just been told our office is closed tomorrow, and they have a very limited facility to let us work from home.
So that's about 200+ contractors who won't be getting paid for as long as this lasts.
So that's about 200+ contractors who won't be getting paid for as long as this lasts.
In Ireland 5% of the workforce was laid off in 24 hours this is going to be a big recession coming
Yeah. Except shouldn't that be front page stuff? "The UK has just realised in the last few days that it's plan will see the health service massively overwhelmed".
The lack of a reaction everywhere has me puzzled and is making me think I've missed something.