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SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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I am unsure. Should I call my GP? Cause that feels like a thing that could be avoided at a time when they are desperately struggling. I really don't know. Waiting for days sounds very stressful.
Did that come to pass, or did they postpone it for next week?
This morning, live on Sky TV, the housing minister told people it was a good idea to take their kids to the park.
So they did.
Most people aren't watching this develop, they here that one soundbite in a day, and its go tot he park.
This is just bad leadership.
If I had to list the five people I hated the most in the world Boris would be there so I'm in no way saying this from a position of fandom.
But he seems to be the only leader around so far that's actually factoring mental health into this and thinking beyond the next few weeks, luckily I'm in a much much better place to deal with a lockdown if it comes now but the me of 2011 wouldn't have been able to cope with effectively being under house arrest and I'd go as far as saying it would have been 50/50 if I actually survived it. However they are people who will be me circa 2011 so to speak and I'm genuinely terrified for them.
I don't know which extreme group annoys me more, the ones who are carrying on as normal and probably leading us to a complete lockdown with their selfishness or the ones who think basically a prison routine is a good idea, it will only serve to eventually turn a coronovirus pandemic into a mental health pandemic. If most people were compromising with a middle ground this would be so much easier all round.
I assume this is for Europe and quickly looking we're at ~8000 deaths already. Would seem Italy will keep adding and other countries will reach Italy's numbers in the coming weeks so I reckon we'll hit around 65k for Europe at the low end. I don't buy into millions dead but this is serious and also many could have breathing problems with lung fibrosis and damaged lungs for life and I've read of young people recovering and then having heart failure.
Hopefully the longer we delay the antiviral meds can be found and help. Right now for example an Italian hospital had 170 odd covid19 patients and 170 odd died on a ventilator from chronic pneumonia Only one came through who was young.
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It's virtually policy with this lot: their history of leaking information, rather than actually making public statements, shows their deliberate evasion of responsibility & fear of unpopularity. They were making it up as they went along well before this crisis.
Just seen that Fellaini has Coronavirus.
First death in the Czech Republic (from 1120 confirmed cases so far). A 95-year old man died in Prague today.
Absolutely, very poorly briefed ministers coming out with their own interpretation of the guidance. An absolute clusterfeck of messages for people to follow.
Yes you should. If you have not been identified as extremely vulnerable and believe you should, then your GP has the ability to add you onto it if they believe it is correct to do so. I don’t know what health conditions you have and I don’t expect you to tell me, but I would imagine you have a pretty good idea whether you fall into this category or not.
A rough and ready chart i've been keeping tabs of showing case progression and trends from the day each country broke 200 cases. The UK is still some way behind the worst hit countries.
We even had an Guardia di Finanza helicopter circling the town today to spot people outdoors and generally make their presence known.
No, they tightened the rules from today.
We even had an Guardia di Finanza helicopter circling the town today to spot people outdoors and generally make their presence known.
He's going to head it off at the pass.
I agree and think the mortality rate is much closer to the published flu mortality rate. However, we also have to wonder how many cases of the flu go undocumented and in turn makes the mortality rate higher than published.
In a lockdown situation for UK can anyone confirm how Corner shops and newsagents are treated? Locked down only for supermarkets or stay open?
I know its hard, but the people who you perceive to be acting idiotic need to be treated differently somehow, because it wont get through. It never does when you want something to change but go about it by insulting someone.
"You're an idiot for voting trump" = trump president
"Youre an idiot wanting brexit" = leave wins
" Youre an idiot for not respecting social distancing" = ???
"You're an idiot for voting trump" = trump president
"Youre an idiot wanting brexit" = leave wins
" Youre an idiot for not respecting social distancing" = ???
Nobody will be able to confirm that, the Government have said nothing about it.
I would guess that if the shop sells food, it'll be able to stay open.
I think I shouldn't fall in to it if it was perfectly designed but that the wide net that the government is casting here, given they lack the time to get down in to the minutiae, may well catch me nonetheless, as I have a type of blood cancer that is rare at the best of times and extremely rare at my age, and also not very dangerous at my age.
But I ain't a haematologist with a good understanding of epidemiology.
"you might die" =??
The "???" at the end will be lots more people dying. They're idiots.
We don't know because no information about lockdowns have been presented to the public.
In Italy at least:
Corner shops stay open if they sell groceries.
Newsagents are open but can only sell newspapers and tobacco.
The published flu mortality rate takes into account undocumented cases.
Well, newsagents are still open in Italy, and if the corner shop isn't primarily selling food (not just sweets), that would be closed here, too.
My understanding is small shops selling essential goods have remained open in other countries facing severe lock down measures.
Who the feck goes to the beach in this cold? The hell is wrong with people 
I feel the death rate should also factor in how many people are dying because they can no longer receive proper care. When you read something like 700 new deaths in Italy today, it’s really 700 plus however many haven't been afforded the attention they would usually receive. They say the death rate will most likely be 1%, in reality it will be far greater.
I watched Event 201 A Global Pandemic Exercise a couple of days ago. It took place last October and they used Coronavirus as their "killer virus pandemic" example. The projections in that were 65 million dead worldwide.
You are told by the government and the media that there is a pandemic and you should panic. You don't know whether this is true, you can only trust that it is. You must trust the government and the media. When it comes to "shutting Britain down" I don't think it's wise to just blindly accept it without asking questions.
There is an "alternative" theory out there as to why the world is shutting down. Most are completely unaware of it, of those that are aware of it, some believe it wholeheartedly and others think it's complete nonsense. Personally, I don't believe it, because I am very pessimistic and believe it is more deception. I VERY MUCH WISH I am wrong!
Then if you are currently being treated for it you would fall into this category. But, if you are still unsure, and you aren't a haematologist with a good understanding of epidemiology, calling your GP for clarification would be good, as was advised at the time of its release and on the government website.
Are we expecting an exhaustive list here?
Feels like we are taking part in a sequel to the Truman show.
I'm not saying I'm expecting an exhaustive list. I did, in fairness, make it clear there that I understood that in the timeframe available such things weren't possible!
I am here asking for advice more than anything, cause it's very hard to judge these things when it's yourself. I do appreciate yours.
Doesn't really mean a lot this data, most consumers in China's have more than one mobile airtime subscription, you've also got the fact that if you're home bound then you don't need anything else other than WiFi. To try to correlate this to a death count doesn't take the full picture into account.
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Thanks - was after an inclination, shouldn't have used the word "confirm". Sucks because my father manages a wholesale company for cornershops/newsagents and is in his 60s. He refuses to stop working and it looks like the warehouse will stay open regardless of a lockdown
A Spring heatwave might be helpful
They might not know. A family member enquired with their GP about increased risk from atrial fibrillation and was told there is none, despite it being present in a quarter of Italian fatalities.
They're suggesting over 8 million people died?!
Yeah, everyone will be out buying shit for BBQs.
Setting the moors on fire.