Wow, fecking hell. He should stand trial for crimes against humanity for taking such a piss at the lives of his citizens.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Can’t help but think dramatically different air travel experience is going to be one of the many changes coming in post Convid19 world!
You’re ignoring that new cases is a direct result of the level of testing done. If we stopped testing people today then tomorrow we would have no new cases.
Therefore proper analytics factors in multiple data points and a discussion on which of the two is irrelevant because you need both to paint a picture. In isolation, they are equally as irrelevant as each other.
this guy references it too, a minute into the video
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i'm too lazy to track down an actual source though
Obviously the deaths are sad but in terms of the war against the virus the fact we were neck and neck with Italy's trajectory four days ago but are now nearly 400 deaths behind them (at the same stage) is pretty good news.
The Guardian’s coverage of this has been pretty disappointing on the whole. This is another example of it.
This is true but I guess you can say the NHS is 'coping' at the moment. The amount of new cases is relevant when then they end up in the hospital and there's no more beds or ventilators. That's when the shit hits the fan as it did in Italy.
The testing criteria isn’t remaining consistent though.
Testing has been massively increased in Belgium. Everyone who arrives in the hospital for whatever reason is being tested. We have a huge testing capacity apparently. Long live a decent healthcare and a very early lockdown (8-10 days ago). I hope I don't regret saying this in a few weeks...
3 people in a retirement home have died in my town of only 4500 inhabitants though. Terrible.
3 people in a retirement home have died in my town of only 4500 inhabitants though. Terrible.
Be under no illusion, it's merely treading water currently. NHS is far from coping, opening a field hospital is a clear sign of that.
Sweden and Norway have a comparable number of confirmed cases (500 more for Norway), but Norway has tested at least 4x more people than Sweden, with Sweden at twice the population of Norway. Sweden also has 4x more deaths. This points to a huge number of undetected cases in Sweden.
So at this point it may be too late to bother with restrictions since the virus is likely everywhere already and spreading rapidly as we speak, with little being done to slow it down. The Swedes have made their choice, to put it that way.
Oh! That I can believe. I thought you meant in the past few weeks.
How do you know that Lombardy figures are 100% correct? Why is there such a massive discrepancy between Italys death toll / confirmed cases and Germany for example. This might interest you
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...se/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/
But Prof Ricciardi added that Italy’s death rate may also appear high because of how doctors record fatalities.
“The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.
“On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity - many had two or three,” he says.
Total deaths is a significantly more accurate measurement than cases right now, so it's for sure very useful in modelling - despite the ~21 day lag between infections and deaths.
Jeremy hunt reasonably positive on Peston, time will tell.
My best mate lives in Stockholm and says it’s just like a normal evening there tonight - bars, restaurants and clubs all open, trains as busy as usual, people walking the streets, hugging each other etc. Luckily he’s now WFH so hasn’t gone out much. He’s very worried it’s going to kick off big time there shortly.
Bugzy malone aka clown face was speeding on his quad bike in a middle of a lockdown and now seems to have had a serious accident. Not going to pretend to fake sympathy for him because the cnut is going to take NHS resources when he really should have stayed at home and listened.
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Trump bragging about the US (330 million) having tested more people in the last week than South Korea (50 million) have tested in the last two months. Genius.
Source?
If you compare the earlier trajectory of Italy (no curvature for first 12 days) with the UK's, it looks like the UK's arc is beginning to curve sooner
It's probably blind optimism, to be honest, but I'm hopeful that the UK is trending to be better off than Italy
The US very worryingly seems to be trending in the other direction, and if the trend continues they will surely be the worst hit country
ahhh, not much we can discern in terms of progression if this if it doesn't cover 24 hours
I think the UK should track better than Italy. They reacted later than they should have but probably still sooner than Italy, where it caught them a lot more unaware/earlier in the global crisis.
Who?
It’s all over Twitter.
Ah, memories. Had to do frog jumps in school as punishment.
He said 2 weeks ago I think.
Then move to a 'likeminded' affluent area with your new found fortune.
somewhere in the world there's a place where affluent and like minded cocknoses leave fancy breakfasts in hedges filled with money rolls protected by hurlshanks on a NATIONLEVELNATION
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SORRY ITS THE PHONE
A study from Oxford suggests that the virus spread from China one month earlier than first assumed, and that as much as half the English population already could be infected, and that most people have very small - or no symptoms at all. The study relies on computer modelling on numbers from Italy and England.
The researches behind this study do warn, however, that this is computer modelling, and not hard evidence. We need studies on a representative selection of the population and find out how many actually are infected, and how many have been infected by the virus. This can be done by blood testing, as there will be antibodies to the virus in your blood if you had it.
https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b
On Iceland, The Icelandic genetics company DeCode Genetics, reports to have tracked 40 mutations of the coronavirus in Iceland. They suggest that the virus is acting more like the flu, by becoming more infectious, but less harmfull with time, - which, according to them, is typical for viruses.
https://www.information.dk/indland/...ationer-coronavirus-alene-paa-island?lst_frnt
There is still so much we don´t know about this virus, but if the Oxford study can be backed up with real findings, that would be a total game changer. It would mean normal life and football soon to return.
The researches behind this study do warn, however, that this is computer modelling, and not hard evidence. We need studies on a representative selection of the population and find out how many actually are infected, and how many have been infected by the virus. This can be done by blood testing, as there will be antibodies to the virus in your blood if you had it.
https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b
On Iceland, The Icelandic genetics company DeCode Genetics, reports to have tracked 40 mutations of the coronavirus in Iceland. They suggest that the virus is acting more like the flu, by becoming more infectious, but less harmfull with time, - which, according to them, is typical for viruses.
https://www.information.dk/indland/...ationer-coronavirus-alene-paa-island?lst_frnt
There is still so much we don´t know about this virus, but if the Oxford study can be backed up with real findings, that would be a total game changer. It would mean normal life and football soon to return.
I agree with this. Australia seems so lax compared to what I have seen back home. People happily standing next to each other and just going about their business as normal.
Yeah that is a lie.
A study from Oxford suggests that the virus spread from China one month earlier than first assumed, and that as much as half the English population already could be infected, and that most people have very small - or no symptoms at all. The study relies on computer modelling on numbers from Italy and England.
The researches behind this study do warn, however, that this is computer modelling, and not hard evidence. We need studies on a representative selection of the population and find out how many actually are infected, and how many have been infected by the virus. This can be done by blood testing, as there will be antibodies to the virus in your blood if you had it.
https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b
On Iceland, The Icelandic genetics company DeCode Genetics, reports to have tracked 40 mutations of the coronavirus in Iceland. They suggest that the virus is acting more like the flu, by becoming more infectious, but less harmfull with time, - which, according to them, is typical for viruses.
https://www.information.dk/indland/...ationer-coronavirus-alene-paa-island?lst_frnt
There is still so much we don´t know about this virus, but if the Oxford study can be backed up with real findings, that would be a total game changer. It would mean normal life and football soon to return.
The researches behind this study do warn, however, that this is computer modelling, and not hard evidence. We need studies on a representative selection of the population and find out how many actually are infected, and how many have been infected by the virus. This can be done by blood testing, as there will be antibodies to the virus in your blood if you had it.
https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b
On Iceland, The Icelandic genetics company DeCode Genetics, reports to have tracked 40 mutations of the coronavirus in Iceland. They suggest that the virus is acting more like the flu, by becoming more infectious, but less harmfull with time, - which, according to them, is typical for viruses.
https://www.information.dk/indland/...ationer-coronavirus-alene-paa-island?lst_frnt
There is still so much we don´t know about this virus, but if the Oxford study can be backed up with real findings, that would be a total game changer. It would mean normal life and football soon to return.
What happened to the 10k-15k tests a day we were meant to be doing?
How many have we been doing ?
Did 7k In the last day. Of which 1,457 were tested positive.
If my grandmother had balls she would be my grandfather. I hope they are but ..........
Probably a shortage of tests, makes you wonder how many cases are we missing.
Seems so going off of what's being reported. Whats really worrying is the lack of Ventillators. Apparently the NHS only has 8,000. Got an order with Dyson for 10,000 more but apparently it's just a prototype and will take 2 weeks for them to get it OK'd and start manufacturing a significant order. It's estimated we could need as many as 30,000 ventillators.