I expect that a second wave will be in full flow by June, so I would be expecting us to be in this limbo until at least September, I reckon.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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But you can circumvent the UK quarantine rules by travelling to France from anywhere else in Schengen, before travelling to the UK?
You have got to set your own rules going forward, just look after your self and hope everyone else is on the same page.
In theory yes, although I'm not sure what each of the Schengen countries are doing with regards to quarantining incoming passengers. I'd assume they all have something in place which has given France and the UK the confidence to announce this. It would be a very obvious loophole otherwise, and its not like the governments are going to have just missed it.
Without commenting on the actual recommendations, Boris is an idiot for doing his TV message to the country last night before telling parliament.
‘Be Alert’ makes sense in the context of Boris parliament speech. The detail is there.
He should have given TV speech tonight.
‘Be Alert’ makes sense in the context of Boris parliament speech. The detail is there.
He should have given TV speech tonight.
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I wish I shared your faith in the UK government!
I think there's also the issue of all the transport drivers who go into and out of the UK through the French ports along the Channel.
Can't have all of those doing 14 days quarantine after every trip - supply chains would collapse.
On a side note - first day that we're allowed out, at last, and wouldn't you just know it it's sh*t awful weather this afternoon. Ah well....
Is Keir Starmer getting sneaky haircuts at home? Or is his wife a very good hairdresser? His hair looks very well groomed which is impossible at that length during this lockdown!!
That's a good point.
And I was telling myself the same thing, great weather for the first day without lockdown.
I don't have any, it's the French government I have more faith in.
To be fair to him, if an unprecedented 7 week lockdown can’t inspire precaution and behaviour change within the population, nothing will.
The UK Government social contract on covid19 is the responsibility to provide medical care to those who require it. Once they can guarantee that, it’s incumbent on citizens to earn their keep.
Remember we are a majority who voted for BrExit to take back control of our future. Time for all those voters to get off the sofa and prove it.
Else what do you suggest?
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It's possible, I let my girlfriend cut mine for a laugh with a beard trimmer and it actually turned out looking really smart. People have some surprising hidden skills!
Lucky you: mine is a shaggy and unkempt mess
That'ts not a way to talk about your wife.Lucky you: mine is a shaggy and unkempt mess
Don't go to work unless you absolutely have to and never base any parenting choices on advice from Boris Johnson
Beat me to it.That'ts not a way to talk about your wife.
Going through the 50-page document. It reads like a University group project that no one bothered to read over to ensure that it was coherent, no wonder they have spent the day tripping over themselves trying to explain it.
They need to change their timing for future announcements too. They are sending people back to work on Wednesday after an announcement on Sunday evening when they know that the virus symptoms take around 5 days to show.
They need to change their timing for future announcements too. They are sending people back to work on Wednesday after an announcement on Sunday evening when they know that the virus symptoms take around 5 days to show.
UK Government document you cited can be found here: FINAL_6.6637_CO_HMG_C19_Recovery_FINAL_110520_v2_WEB__1_.pdf
or from here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...the-uk-governments-covid-19-recovery-strategy
These official UK announcements have a cutoff period and always differ from each separate country announcement added up. England might only have 180 that made it in time.
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https://www.thenationalsentinel.com...a-asked-the-who-to-help-it-cover-up-covid-19/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...equested-delay-COVID-19-pandemic-warning.html
If this turns out to be true - albeit I don't necessarily trust the Spiegel - this would be huge. Especially in combination with this: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...uggests-hazardous-event-October-shutdown.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...equested-delay-COVID-19-pandemic-warning.html
If this turns out to be true - albeit I don't necessarily trust the Spiegel - this would be huge. Especially in combination with this: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...uggests-hazardous-event-October-shutdown.html
It's nice not to be the black sheep of Italy, Europe and the world anymore in Lombardy, we are at 0.57.
My province dropped below 10 new cases for the first time today too.
All France's borders are shut including with other Schengen area countries - exceptions until 15th June are " As for our national borders, the ones we share with our European neighbours, we have decided to extend the decisions set up, at least up to June 15th. Free movement of cross-border workers will be preserved as it has been since the beginning of the health crisis". For the record, France's borders and borders of the Schengen area are closed since March 17th, 2020. Since then, only French travelers, cross-border workers and expats can come back to French soil if holding a special certificate. The end of confinement will change nothing.
Freight/goods deliveries are arriving.
Odd that the UK didn't do the same thing, taking back control and all that. Dress rehearsal for next year for a 14 day queue on the M20.
It obviously isn't true since they announced it the day before.
https://apnews.com/14d7dcffa205d9022fa9ea593bb2a8c5
So I started today on Covid ER. My hospital decided to go for "full protection for our professionals". I'm sitting here on Ebola level protection, sweating like a pig. Can't piss, eat, drink or smoke, pauses which happen every 4 hours and force us to re-equip to do that stuff.
Seems like a waste of equipment to me, given the epidemiologic scenario here. I'm likely to spend 56 hours here this week (and the next) and will see an average of one or two patients per day.
Also can't use phone or any kind of personal equipment. We don't auscultate patients as we can't access our ears in this equipment.
Seems like a waste of equipment to me, given the epidemiologic scenario here. I'm likely to spend 56 hours here this week (and the next) and will see an average of one or two patients per day.
Also can't use phone or any kind of personal equipment. We don't auscultate patients as we can't access our ears in this equipment.
It will be the better approach. 100%.
You’re effectively arguing that an out of control random aggressive spread through society, is Possibly better than a controlled one.
The optimist in me thinks that it won't hurt China, they are too big, rich and powerful. Also these articles and leaks are way too obvious, the people making them aren't the smartest so we can imagine where it comes from.
Signing off with the ridiculous slogan
What's the point of being 2m apart if you're using the same ball?
Tennis or Basketball?
What's the point of being 2m apart if you're using the same ball?
You don’t trust der Spiegel.... but you quote the Daily Mail?!?
you should take the time between patients to quit smoking
That’s your reaction to someone spending 50+ hours a week in full PPE in a Covid 19 ER ward? Go wash your legs.
Dialy Mail just translates the Spiegel. Difference to themself reporting. And no, I don't trust Daily Mail, or any other media, either.
It's ok, I thought the same
But I wanted to be sure it actually isn't protective against Covid before my next effort.Not smoking isn't the worst, you get used to it quickly, but this forced fluid management sucks.
It is a possibility, I imagine government's will be making plans for this. It would require changes to our lifestyles in order to live with the virus. If we can build up a herd immunity that would be optimal. Contract tracing will also be necessary and I imagine that apps for this will be required if you have a smartphone. I think shops could also install screens for their cashiers to stand behind or even masks and gloves being compulsory for everyone. Sports would be behind closed doors, perhaps stadiums could open small sections with families allowed to sit next to each other but nobody in the next 2 or 3 seats around them.
When I try to imagine how the world continues without a virus or without immunity then it's hard to see how the economy or life can even get close to how it was last year.
I've been on the same page as @Regulus Arcturus Black for most of this thread. But I'm not as much of an expert on Swedish half-term holidays.
My Mrs has been told to take the 12 weeks off of work whilst I'm off due to receiving a letter.
If you do have to work, the living requirements become a joke without even factoring in being pregnant.
Basically have to use separate bathrooms and bedrooms, with the vulnerable person not using communal areas. How on earth that would work with a pregnant woman I've no idea.
I may be wrong but my minimal knowledge tells me that if we can’t develop a vaccine, it’s highly likely that developing herd immunity will also be impossible for the same reason.
No. What a weird way to interpret what I wrote. I’m arguing that controlled spread might be better than complete eradication. In the very long term.