That phrase loses all credence when you factor in the fact that Allardyce signed Fernando Hierro, Jay-Jay Okocha, Youri Djorkaeff and Nicholas Anelka.
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- Goals
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- Assists
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- Yellow cards
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Totally agree
My god some quote basically stating Mctominay is prime Gerard restricted in a United team by ETH is hilarious.
They are using McTominay not being played, as a kick at ETH is out of order.
This forum would go into hyperbole when he was named as a starter.
I see where this is going there is an agenda to blame it all on ETH and removing him will get us back in business, good fecking luck with that plan.
This international break is being using as a boxing ring to take swings at United in all ways.
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Pretty sure Allardyce signed a lot more player that were a lot less exciting than the four players you name.
David Moyes also signed some flair players during his career but his teams arent exactly known for their flair...
Even Tony Pulis might have signed a player with flair during his career?
No thats Billy Gilmour.... apparentlyChampionship level player.... apparently.
I've always said he should be a striker. He's got the natural instincs for it. He can be a hard working link up one given his experience in midfield. Shame no one's ever tried it.
West ham should have coughed up the money for him, he would excel in a moyes side and be his new fellaini
He’s brilliant for Scotland playing higher up the park.
Hes a much better player than Mount.
Hes a much better player than Mount.
Don't worry he'll be injured again when we need him
So it turns out the REAL Weghorst was the McTominay we had along the way. Makes you think.
In all seriousness, after Wout's 17 apps (and most of them starting, right?), McTominay would have scored more goals. That is to say I believe that McTominay would have scored A goal.
In all seriousness, after Wout's 17 apps (and most of them starting, right?), McTominay would have scored more goals. That is to say I believe that McTominay would have scored A goal.
I said that at the time. Was absolute nonsense from Ten Hag.
better than rice
If Declan Rice played like Scott McTominay has during this qualification campaign the English press would have beat themselves off into oblivion over it.
I’ve said it before but he could be very useful if used the same way Fellaini was used at Everton and later on at United.
Not to say that either are United-quality, but they’re really useful players to have in your squad.
Oh, here we go. A good game against Cyprus and he is back again..
Cyprus are absolutely rubbish, and Scot isn't good enough for us.
Should have been sold.
Cyprus are absolutely rubbish, and Scot isn't good enough for us.
Should have been sold.
This is his main strength, yet of all his managers at United only the much-maligned Ralf has recognised it.
Quite agree. Edit: though I suppose Moyes might insist on playing him as a DM as well
Award for most selective use of stats ever 2023… wouldn’t be surprised if his touch count is close to Eriksen’s because he takes 2 or 3 touches to control a pass that Eriksen would only need 1 to kill.
Anyway. No idea where you plucked those stats from but FBRef has Eriksen averaging just over 70 passes per 90 minute, over the last 365 days. Casemiro clocks in at 62.55. The much maligned Fred averaged just under 53. Bruno 57 and Mason Mount 66
Guess how many passes McTominay attempts per 90? The answer is 38.
Do you see a pattern there? Either he’s unwilling/unable to find the time and space needed to get on the ball and pick a pass (let’s describe this as “hiding from the ball” for simplicity’s sake) or his team mates think he’s so shite they’re choosing to ignore him despite him being available for a pass (presumably preferring to pass to the world class talent that is Fred)
Either way these stats confirm exactly why so many people accuse McT of hiding. Whether you’re willing to acknowledge them or not. They are what they are. And they’re the reason he hasn’t been close to good enough to hold down a starting place in midfield at Manchester United. Well, those stats and his pass completion %, which is on the 44th centile for midfielders.
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Not bad if you can get him primarily higher up the pitch using his athleticism and power. Not neccessarily starting in a high position because you wouldn't want him on the turn receiving it, he'd be awful, but he needs freedom to roam without defensive responsibilities he had alongside the likes of Fred in a double pivot.
Just not a Man United level talent but I think a few teams might have made a mistake not trying to tempt us with slightly more than West Ham bid. I think it was almost a point of principle to reject that first major bid, but I don't think anyone would have had to go all the way to 40 million.
Just not a Man United level talent but I think a few teams might have made a mistake not trying to tempt us with slightly more than West Ham bid. I think it was almost a point of principle to reject that first major bid, but I don't think anyone would have had to go all the way to 40 million.
Yep agreed. Judging by some reactions on here you’d think he’d been MOTM multiple times for us recently but can’t get a game. He is what he is, a good box to box CM that has to play in a more old school setup to take advantage of his best attributes, which won’t happen in any sort of top side.
He’d be perfect for Soucek though at West Ham
I'm glad we have him at the club. Great back-up player and very professional compared to some of the other players we've had to deal with.
Our new No 9?
As a Scotland fan I'm lurking here until Tuesday because there is a decent chance of some hilarious backtracking... 
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Place Bruno in the no 6 position and sit back and enjoy how few touches of the ball he has, the few passes as well as the vast amount of times that he gives the ball away leading to a chance/goal.
Scott McTominay is not an anchorman. Never has been, never will be. He can play there, he can be a no 6, but his greatest attributes are driving forward with the ball and shooting and his attacking movement Is underrated.
If you want a deeply lying playmaker, but Billy Gilmour. If you want a player who will play box to box and come away with double figures from midfield, get McTominay.
He's been perpetually played put of position. Look what happened when Gerrard played John McGinn as a no 6. He was garbage and a target for the boo boys. Emery plays McGinn as a no 10. All of a sudden he looks like one of the league's best players.
Hell, there are people here who think that McTominay is a "Make a wish foundation" person. According to then he can't trap the ball and when he isn't hiding from the ball he's tripping over it.
Meanwhile, in the real world, he is joint top goal scorer in the European Championships qualifiers with Hoijlund and Lukaku. Two players that we spent a combined £140m on.
In terms of G + A, McTominay is leading the way with 7. If this was Ice hockey he'd be on 9, as he had a hand in a goal against Norway as well as Georgia.
Is Emery a better manager than EtH? I'd swap them tomorrow if I could.
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Come on Moyes. You've found your new Fellaini. Persuade the Hammers to give us 35mil+5mil in addons and he is yours!
We’re also doing well without Djemba Djemba. Let’s resign him.
Why are you being so pessimistic and negative?
We've had worse league positions under SAF on matchday 4. I clearly remember that the first 4 games in our double winning season in 2007/2008 were 2 draws, a defeat and an uninspiring 1-0 win that we got from a deflected 30 yard Nani screamer. The next 4 games we grinded narrow 1-0 wins over the likes of Wigan, and yet a lot of people on this forum would have that team ahead of 1999 one.
Granted he isn't SAF, but last year ETH has shown that he can turn adversity around. He adapted quiet well after our 4-0 drumming at Brentford. This year we looked a much improved side when going to the Emirates compared to the last time we've been there. If it weren't for some poor oficiating errors, razor thin margins and an injury plagued team, we would've come up with all 3 points and the conversation would've been different on this forum.
So far we're witnessing incremental improvements in our play which is completely different from what we've seen under Ole and Mourinho.
And it's not like McTomminay would've had us playing better in any of the matches so far either. But those extra 35-40 million could definitely help us land a player that actually can.
Spain and Norway would probably do alright though, eh ?
Slight overreaction.
People do have differences of opinion, but I don't see any posts reflecting the points in your posts.
It is permitted for people to comment positively.
That just means we're first twice.
World class, 50m market price
Im disappointed he’s still at the club. He should have been long gone. I’d happily be a backup player and be very professional, I’d give my heart and soul, but I’d still be pretty shit. Being professional is not enough.
Still horrendously overrated on here,
However does appear to be deviating ever so slightly from McEachrans career trajectory
Good job he's also a decent player as well then really.
Yeah.
Because McTominay will come in and fix all our problems.
We’ll soon be back to 1st when he goes.
Yes. The guy is doing great things for Scotland in this qualifying and is clearly a better player than some want to give him credit for being. Don't see many, if any calling for him to start for Utd, but the undertone of anger in the responses to any positivity around him is more than a bit pathetic.
Matter of opinion. Decent for a specific level. Not the level we should be at.
Ah yes he helped Scotland beat Spain. He’s top class now.
An opinion shared by multiple top level managers, which would be strange if he was really that bad.
Lads its Cyprus
What a great performance from McTominay last night - absolutely ran the show. I think he's an excellent option for Ten Hag over the course of the season especially as an attacking option on the right hand side. He is definitely worth keeping at the club for me especially with Antony's issues.