Scottish Football 23-24

[Melbourne Red]

Kevin Muscat must be a front runner for the vacant position. His name has been banded about as an Ange Postecoglue type manager with experience in the market out there.

Doubt he's anywhere near the same class tbh. I remember some Melbourne Victory fans had their doubts about him for instance, and his Sint Truiden failure is still a fairly recent one. And although I imagine he must have worked on his craft, and winning the Japanese league is a huge achievement in this region I'm not sure what to expect from him. Whereas with Ange we knew he'd go there and dominate the place, primarily because he's a fecking genius.

 

[Gio]

Third managerial change in a row that has taken place a quarter of the way into the season. Which is the worst time to attract and appoint somebody given the transfer window is shut, the budget is blown on someone else's signings, and there is no opportunity to prepare the team for the season ahead. And to compound that Beale got rid of any natural wingers which means it will be difficult for anyone to come in and play a 4-3-3. And even after deciding Beale is not the solution, it makes no sense to get rid of him for a couple of rookie ex-players 3 days out from a European game. Especially only 10 days after an impressive performance against Betis. Our Board is hopeless.

 

[Vault Dweller]

Third managerial change in a row that has taken place a quarter of the way into the season. Which is the worst time to attract and appoint somebody given the transfer window is shut, the budget is blown on someone else's signings, and there is no opportunity to prepare the team for the season ahead. And to compound that Beale got rid of any natural wingers which means it will be difficult for anyone to come in and play a 4-3-3. And even after deciding Beale is not the solution, it makes no sense to get rid of him for a couple of rookie ex-players 3 days out from a European game. Especially only 10 days after an impressive performance against Betis. Our Board is hopeless.

Absolutely clueless mate.

 

[TenOuttaTenHag]

Doubt he's anywhere near the same class tbh. I remember some Melbourne Victory fans had their doubts about him for instance, and his Sint Truiden failure is still a fairly recent one. And although I imagine he must have worked on his craft, and winning the Japanese league is a huge achievement in this region I'm not sure what to expect from him. Whereas with Ange we knew he'd go there and dominate the place, primarily because he's a fecking genius.

Let’s judge the genius label at the end of the season. He’s done well at Celtic and the first portion of the season. Playing more entertaining football for spurs fans.

 

[TenOuttaTenHag]

Third managerial change in a row that has taken place a quarter of the way into the season. Which is the worst time to attract and appoint somebody given the transfer window is shut, the budget is blown on someone else's signings, and there is no opportunity to prepare the team for the season ahead. And to compound that Beale got rid of any natural wingers which means it will be difficult for anyone to come in and play a 4-3-3. And even after deciding Beale is not the solution, it makes no sense to get rid of him for a couple of rookie ex-players 3 days out from a European game. Especially only 10 days after an impressive performance against Betis. Our Board is hopeless.

I agree. Plus he knew how to get a result in Europe (albeit not into CL via qualifiers).
Doesn’t make a lot of sense.

Is he due a big pay off?

 

[Melbourne Red]

Let’s judge the genius label at the end of the season. He’s done well at Celtic and the first portion of the season. Playing more entertaining football for spurs fans.

He's done a bunch of things before that as well, but by now we know very well British watchers will never consider any of it relevant or worth acknowledging.

But anyway, fair enough if you want to see how he fares in an elite league if I'm going to use a word like "genius". Let's see.

 

[Melbourne Red]

Third managerial change in a row that has taken place a quarter of the way into the season. Which is the worst time to attract and appoint somebody given the transfer window is shut, the budget is blown on someone else's signings, and there is no opportunity to prepare the team for the season ahead. And to compound that Beale got rid of any natural wingers which means it will be difficult for anyone to come in and play a 4-3-3. And even after deciding Beale is not the solution, it makes no sense to get rid of him for a couple of rookie ex-players 3 days out from a European game. Especially only 10 days after an impressive performance against Betis. Our Board is hopeless.

Who do you want as manager? I see Potter isn't keen although I don't know if that was really realistic. Maybe there's a Scottish manager who could step up?

 

[golden_blunder]

Gattuso to rock up next

 

[Gio]

Who do you want as manager? I see Potter isn't keen although I don't know if that was really realistic. Maybe there's a Scottish manager who could step up?

I don't think there are any obvious candidates from the Scottish game. There are some good over-achieving managers, but the best ones in the top division have built much of their success on being organised and hard to break down. A team that needs 90+ points to win the league needs a different style of manager. On that basis I'd hope we go abroad. Need someone attack-minded, tactically flexible, with the strength of personality to handle a big club. We've probably ruled ourselves out for a few of the more promising managers by our ham-fisted approach to hiring and firing them.

 

[MayosNoun]

He's done a bunch of things before that as well, but by now we know very well British watchers will never consider any of it relevant or worth acknowledging.

But anyway, fair enough if you want to see how he fares in an elite league if I'm going to use a word like "genius". Let's see.

He will never get the credit he deserves on here. I was laughed at for saying I wanted Ange at Chelsea before Pochettino.

I read a report on Muscat and it notes he plays a very similar style to Ange and although he has followed Ange into some jobs, he has surpassed Ange Postecoglu’s achievements at these clubs.

I’m not sure of the Leonel of bias as it felt like I was reading his CV at one point but a quick look at wiki would show potential accuracy. Would this be a fair assessment?

How close are their styles? Has Muscat completely copied AP style from working with him or has he adapted it and still utilises inverted fullbacks etc? It’s interesting to see Muscat spent one year at Rangers and won a treble.

 

[Melbourne Red]

He will never get the credit he deserves on here. I was laughed at for saying I wanted Ange at Chelsea before Pochettino.

I read a report on Muscat and it notes he plays a very similar style to Ange and although he has followed Ange into some jobs, he has surpassed Ange Postecoglu’s achievements at these clubs.

I’m not sure of the Leonel of bias as it felt like I was reading his CV at one point but a quick look at wiki would show potential accuracy. Would this be a fair assessment?

How close are their styles? Has Muscat completely copied AP style from working with him or has he adapted it and still utilises inverted fullbacks etc? It’s interesting to see Muscat spent one year at Rangers and won a treble.

Ange only had one season at Melbourne Victory and finished 3rd before taking the Australia national team job. Muscat won a couple of leagues in his 6 seasons, but him surpassing Ange isn't that that noteworthy given Ange only had 12 months there.

Also it was Ange who built Yokohama F. Marinos up from an also-ran into a championship winning team with a small budget. Muscat seems to be on track to win back-to-back league titles which is certainly impressive, but he was dealt a very good hand by Ange.

Re: Muscat's style, I have to say I saw very little of his A-League tenure as I was often overseas. I do remember Victory fans wanting him out and him getting booed quite severely at one stage during his reign, but then he won them over by winning his second league. Can't say too much about his style in any detail tbh. They played attacking football but he hasn't managed in this country since 2019 and I missed a lot of his tenure here.

 

[SilentWitness]

Give it to Lamps.

 

[A9X SJ]

Rangers are woeful, Beale has bought dross that will need cleared, Butland has been very good for them.

I'm surprised they did not go for Shankland

 

[Melbourne Red]

I see they beat Real Betis the other day so that's something

 

[Irish Bhoy]

Rangers talking to Philippe Clement. Lampard not in the running according to Chris Jack who is rangers go to journalist. Highly unlikely a new manager will get Rangers to challenge us this season. We are better than them and have 72 million in the bank. We can easily sign a couple of top players ( relative to SPL standards ) in Jan. We have also had a far tougher start in terms of fixtures so far this season. Aberdeen, M'well and Rangers all played away from Home. I fancy Celtic to win league by approx 15 points. If Rangers get next managerial appointment wrong, then I'd fancy Celtic to win next 3 leagues at least ( including this season )

 

[Reiver]

Rangers are up shit creek, where they deserve to be. I'd have loved it if they had appointed Lampard. But I have full confidence their Board will appoint someone just as bad.

 

[MayosNoun]

James Tavernier is Trent lite.

Poor defensively but an absolutely astonishing output for a right back.

50+ non set-piece goals and 50+ penalty and free kick goals. I’m sure they just said he also had 121 assists.

 

[JoeyVimsanteThePoet]

It was a good result for Aberdeen in the Scottish League Cup, as they defeated Hibernian to reach the final.

 

[Swedish_Plumber]

The state of that penalty decision there for rangers. Justice done with it missed.

 

[Gio]

The state of that penalty decision there for rangers. Justice done with it missed.

Decisions are all over the place. That was obviously a dive, while there was no reason to rule out the McCausland goal.

 

[Swedish_Plumber]

Decisions are all over the place. That was obviously a dive, while there was no reason to rule out the McCausland goal.

Yeah agree. That was a great goal too. He seems a player!
Embarrassing how bad they’ve made VAR over here.