I think this could finally be some really good scouting on our part. He looks like he could become a top player. Anything over 35 million and we should be looking abroad though as there are still question marks and our scouting has been poor for a long time.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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We need a new Geordie! If we can get him for £30ish million we should go for it.
What if he shines for Newcastle this season and ends up at shitty?
What if he shines for Newcastle this season and ends up at shitty?
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Why?
Ex Sunderland boss, so not welcome on Tyneside, the fans are not at all happy about the appointment, even though he’s one of their own.
Ashley is actively selling their best players, the Glazers aren’t.
He’d certainly get games at United, as he’d instantly be our second best player for the Matic role, as we’ve no cover.
I have never seen mourinho so clueless with his signings before in any other club than This united under Woodward.
Thanks Sky now Mike will put a 100m price tag on him.
Real Madrid paid 45m for Vinicius junior after literally a couple of game in the Brazil league when he was under 18. To say he has only had 10 games so just be worth x amount doesn’t make any sense.
From what I have seen, I think this kid looks the real deal and I think if we like him we should secure him now. I’m sure A deal can be made to include appearances/ bonuses that suits everyone. Newcastle could ask for a lot more next year and other clubs might come calling too. This is when you trust your scouts.
I hope we aren't phased by the price. Of course Newcastle is going to try and get as much money as they can. Longstaff seems to have exactly what we need right now to take our attacking play to another level. Seeing the first half of the game against Perth Glory it became evident that we lack players with the vision to see that long pass for runners to attack the space. We either tried going through a condensed defense with tricky short passes, but that is just very dependent on luck, or played passes that made the runner have to stop to control it instead of picking it up with pace, which will just give defenders that bit of extra time they need.
He isn't the finished article, but given his attributes it would seem silly not paying up more than what we as fans might seem as wise. He would add that much to our game that we shouldn't pass it up.
He isn't the finished article, but given his attributes it would seem silly not paying up more than what we as fans might seem as wise. He would add that much to our game that we shouldn't pass it up.
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You have 150 posts in this thread and your level of "opinion" is well if the club think he's good then i do too? Brilliant.
Plus he's more mobile and quicker moving the ball about, I fear having matic sitting in front of back 4.
Is he the 'Robson' Ole is looking for in our midfield?
We were reported as the only ones interested and it was true
How can people say he is the new Carrick, after just 9 premiership games. We need a top experienced player for the DM role now, as Matic is too slow.
We have a guy here (Garner) who is playing here for the past few years, and looks more promising than what we have seen of Longstaff.
We should be giving him the chance to be the future DM.
We have a guy here (Garner) who is playing here for the past few years, and looks more promising than what we have seen of Longstaff.
We should be giving him the chance to be the future DM.
I don't think you can say Garner looks more promising when he's never played a premier league game of relevance.
Because you say so? Ok.
Says who? Longstaff has premier league experience, even if its just 9 games, he's played against top teams already. Garner has proven absolutely nothing. Putting faith in someone completely unproven, is utterly mad, and I hope the club won't do it, even if so many on here seem desperate for us to be that naive.
His trainers, coaches are all saying it mate, not me.
Because nobody says different and our link came out of the blue
Wasn't Bout LVG's man. LvG track record regarding transfers is hardly spectacular
You take their reported word on Garner so why can't you believe our backroom staff in their assessment of Longstaff?
Player with 9 games hasn't played enough to be good enough.
Player with no games is more promising though.
It's pretty ridiculous at a time where we are in absolute dire need of midfielders that people think we should not sign one because theres a kid in the academy who might be good enough in a couple years. We need one who can do it right now and besides theres loads of room for both. Matic will need to be replaced by next season and Pereira and Fred aren't good enough.
Longstaff seems to be our DM target. No way that Newcastle will sell him for 25m. It will more likely be 35m + 15m in add-ons. AWB just went for 50m but is proven in the PL.
And would you not think they like the idea of him being cheaper. Because if we really want a top proven DM we wouldn't be looking at Longstaff.
We are a long way behind the top clubs and should be looking at the best Midfielders.
Ndombele and Rodri were snapped up by our rivals, and we are in for an unproven player. We will fall further behind if this is the way we want to go.
We need to be going for the Partey's and Ruiz type players if we really want to catch up.
Partey really isn't all that, he's not exactly the sort of player to take us to the next level, or back up a level.
Well then go for the best, Mate. We are Manchester United and if we want to get back to the top, we need to bring in top players.
We can't get the best at the moment, which is why we're targeting young players with high potential.
Newcastle have already sold Ayoze Perez, Joselu and Rondon for relatively cheap prices. But just because we are after Longstaff, Ashley is trying to rip us off by asking for 50m. We should negotiate like we did with AWB and bring the price down. Newcastle are not like Leicester or Wolves. They will sell if the offer is decent.
Rondon was a loanee. He has been sold by West Brom.
Certainly wouldn't call £30m for Ayoze Perez 'cheap'.
Then I'm afraid it's going to take us a long long time to get back up there with the top teams, as they will pull further and further away. We have maybe 2 world class players ( on their day) in Pogba and De Gea, the rest are either not good enough for United or just passable. If we want to be challenging we need to be positive and bring in top world class players. We won't get these players unless we are in the Champions League each year.
We are still playing for that 4th position this coming season IMO. It depends on whether we bring in a couple of TOP midfielders and a replacement for Lukaku, if we reach this goal.
We're looking at a slow rebuild, but it worked for Liverpool. Throwing money at big names has done feck all for us lately.
How long has it taken Liverpool. Seems Klopp has finally got them on the right track, but how many managers have they went through since last winning the League which is their goal.
Cant really judge his accuracy or completed passes rate, but you can take out of the footage around two main features that makes you believe he will improve a lot our current midfield. First of them is that he doesnt take much time on the ball before releasing the pass, be it short or long, one or two touches at most and secondly when he does he can pass with both feet so that he's got a big range os positions from where to release a pass and eventually start and attack or recycle the ball. Thats something we are really lacking atm, and you could see it in the perth game, a lot of time was needed before a pass, be it forward or sideways, just see Matic, and if he can print some of that in our midfield I believe he will be an upgrade.
Also, it cannot hurt a lot to add numbers and depth to the squad, even with the tag of unproven, which, as someone pointed already, deasn't really translates that hes going to be shite.
On another hand, if Garner is able to step up and kickstart his carreer so that by the age of 21 he's better than Longstaff the who wouldn't rather that? give him a chance anyway.
Also, it cannot hurt a lot to add numbers and depth to the squad, even with the tag of unproven, which, as someone pointed already, deasn't really translates that hes going to be shite.
On another hand, if Garner is able to step up and kickstart his carreer so that by the age of 21 he's better than Longstaff the who wouldn't rather that? give him a chance anyway.
Joselu was fecking shite too.
Newcastle didnt sell Rondon for the reason he wasn't theirs to sell, as he only joined them on a loan deal and refuse to buy him as he turns 30 in Sept, Joselu only played 17 games last season and was way down Rafa's pecking order, is 29 and joined the mighty Alavez and his fee is undisclosed, the other lad was sold for 30 I think, scored 48 in 190 something games.
We need experience as it was AF greatest disaster before he left in not sorting the MF and I am sick of this one for the future, Jesus the last ones to really try that notion was the arsenal from 05 and look how well that went.
You're proposing buying a player for twice his value
Longstaff is known to be a big Newcastle fan, and in no hurry to try and move clubs. This gives Newcastle the choice of fee.
Still young, plus it’s a completely different standard of league, plus people develop at different rates.
"valuable part of their future"- not sure that applies to Newcastle, if it did they would have fought tooth and nail to keep Benetiz. He made it clear he wanted to stay but the boardroom had no ambition. They contacted Big Sam re the vacancy. All Newcastle are looking to do is stay in PL which for a club of their size isn't good enough.If they had any balls they would have appointed a young manager with fresh footballing ideas.
It was nine games which including points won vs City and Wolves and a couple of narrow defeats to Chelsea and Spurs. That’s not a bad set of games to come out smelling of roses from.
Top class players are not coming to us atm, not without CL, we need to get used to that.
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