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I can't wait for tomorrow when we fax in our interest offer
What the flying feck have I just read?We'll value De Gea at £40m then. £6.5m + De Gea is not too bad.
That's a very specific numberApparently Real want £46.5M for him....that has gotta be a big joke!!!
ThisNah, can't see this in a million years. Would prefer Ottamendi anyway who I think genuinely wants to move here.
ThisNah, can't see this in a million years. Would prefer Ottamendi anyway who I think genuinely wants to move here.
Alternatively, it's that kind of summer where we dick around for a few months and scramble a few overpriced signings in the last few weeks. Time will tell I guess.Maybe it's that kind of Summer and we end up with both Ramos and Otamendi We have the money, we have Woody and we want to be the best team in the world so why not.
Rio got plenty of criticism for being too precious and plenty of the above mentioned fans would easily take Vidic over Rio or even Terry above him as well. Ramos, can, you know, like, actually defend. Would it even be possible to win a fraction of what he's won if he couldn't. Do you really think Spain or Madrid are short of options to where he wouldn't be easily replaced if he was at the level posters are describing?We had one of the best ball playing defenders of this century in the form of Rio Ferdinand playing for us. The thing was that in addition to all those actual fancy stuff, he could, you know, like, actually, defend. We're not that far off from the last great generation of defenders who had that skill set as well.
But carry on assuming people who don't rate this current batch of exotic "defenders" don't appreciate the finer arts of football.
We are talking about the club that sacked their CL winning manager of subbing an out of form "superstar" while replacing their super inform LCM that led them to the CL title for a guy who performed good at the WC.Why would he want to leave Real?
Why would Real want to sell him?
Let me guess, he's in discussions for renewing his contract or something?
0% chance sounds about right.
Exactly! The other thing people forget is that with Rio, we mostly played a deep line. Being good on the ball is not the only thing we're talking about here. The elite clubs now want to monopolize the ball, the idea is to not have to defend and not be put under pressure and therefore not need a Vidic or a Terry in the first place. I understand people not liking that style of play but if you want that kind of football, there really is no replacement for a player of Ramos's profile. Yes it would be getting caught out of position and conceding some stupid goals at times but if it works well and the identity of the team develops the right way, it would be all worth it.Rio got plenty of criticism for being too precious and plenty of the above mentioned fans would easily take Vidic over Rio or even Terry above him as well. Ramos, can, you know, like, actually defend. Would it even be possible to win a fraction of what he's won if he couldn't. Do you really think Spain or Madrid are short of options to where he wouldn't be easily replaced if he was at the level posters are describing?
Ashley has the best agent in the history of sports agents.I was reading in some article that he is on 70k/week(€5M/year), surely that can't be true? That's like 50k less than Ashley Young.
No wonder he wants and will probably get a new contract.
pressure comes in other forms, requiring snap quick reaction if there's a loose ball waiting for a counter attack, so it requires concentration all the time or the consequence is disastrous. the claim that defending in possession teams is simpler is quite rubbishnot have to defend and not be put under pressure and therefore not need a Vidic or a Terry in the first place
Spain reports players wages after tax and in England reports players wages before taxes.I was reading in some article that he is on 70k/week(€5M/year), surely that can't be true? That's like 50k less than Ashley Young.
No wonder he wants and will probably get a new contract.
Except I never said it was simpler. It just requires a different set of skills and relies more on the group rather than old fashioned pure defenders if that makes any sense. But overall, it is a style of play where not conceding chances is a natural consequence of being in control and cutting out danger in a much earlier phase of play. Is it easier? of course not but it most definitely does not necessarily require a Vidic or a Terry.pressure comes in other forms, requiring snap quick reaction if there's a loose ball waiting for a counter attack, so it requires concentration all the time or the consequence is disastrous. the claim that defending in possession teams is simpler is quite rubbish
no I just refer to some people who dismiss that type of defending, not aimed at youExcept I never said it was simpler. It just requires a different set of skills and relies more on the group rather than old fashioned pure defenders if that makes any sense. But overall, it is a style of play where not conceding chances is a natural consequence of being in control and cutting out danger in a much earlier phase of play. Is it easier? of course not but it most definitely does not necessarily require a Vidic or a Terry.
And if Madrid can offer 20m Euros for de Gea then they can pull down my trousers and suck my balls.If United paid 75 m euro for di María then surely they can pay the same or more for Ramos
I think he'll handle the mighty EPL.He will get bullied in EPL.
,but de Gea is in his last year,if the situation was different they would have to offer 45/50And if Madrid can offer 20m Euros for de Gea then they can pull down my trousers and suck my balls.
Lol fecking Muniesa and Alderweireld were killing it for Stoke and Southampton yet you think Ramos gets bullied. No chance.He will get bullied in EPL.