Trump is trying to build a wall but the Mexicans aren’t paying quickly enough.
Maybe these shootings will encourage them. (Too soon?).
Next up, one on the Canadian border.
Shooting in Dayton, Ohio | 4th August 2019
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Maybe these shootings will encourage them. (Too soon?).
Next up, one on the Canadian border.
I'm sure the rest of us around the world would gladly chip in. Maybe make it a dome over the entire place like on The Simpsons Movie.
Get the Americans off this forum out whilst we can and their friends and families and then everyone else can live in the dome. Or have it as a giant version of the prison island/city from the 'Escape from ______' series.
Any confirmation on the shooter being another white male?
I spent four years stationed at WPAFB and was a regular patron to the Oregon District, and occasionally visited Ned Peppers. I was just at WPAFB this past April and part of a group that visited the District one night, and at one point sat on a patio bar right across from Ned Peppers. Chilling to think I could very well have been slain if circumstance and timing changed.
I spent four years stationed at WPAFB and was a regular patron to the Oregon District, and occasionally visited Ned Peppers. I was just at WPAFB this past April and part of a group that visited the District one night, and at one point sat on a patio bar right across from Ned Peppers. Chilling to think I could very well have been slain if circumstance and timing changed.
Why are people going on about domes and walling the USA off 
it's not like they're coming here and committing shootings
it's not like they're coming here and committing shootingsGun control is no longer a conservative vs liberal issue. Its sane vs insane
While gun control is completley fecked up statistically its still probably safer than a night out in london... each state is it's own country in a way. If you add up all fatalities in Europe it might be similar ?
Just saying if you had a trip and you were cancelling it due to fear of getting murdered its not quite logical
The murder rate in the US is about 5 times higher than in the majority of Western European countries.
Is that all combined ? If so I'm surprised. I still think the risk of getting murdered is pretty damn low. Maybe stats prove otherwise.
I'm sure there are some states that havent had a shooting in forever?
Yeah it's all combined. Western Europe despite it's many problems is generally safer than most American cities. It's also why Trump's criticism of Khan regarding London was laughable but I guess some bought into it.
The murder rate in the US is about 5 in 100000 and obviously some areas are much more dangerous than others. Your chance of being murdered as a middle class person is very low but the murder rate in the US is extremely bad for a developed nation.
It’s like any country and any city in the world, there are places where you are as safe as you could possibly hope for and there are places you just wouldn’t visit.
The trouble with America is that there is a much higher chance of becoming a victim to an act of random violence in one of the places you would think you are as safe as you could possibly hope.
It’s still a minuscule chance you will get caught up in something but like the lottery, some people have that winning ticket and it’s up to you if you fancy your chances.
No its not statistically safer at all. All the major cities in America have far higher crime rates
There were 17,300 criminal homicides in the US in 2017. In the UK, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Netherlands combined (similar population) there were around 3,000.
The US murder rate for males is about 7.5/100,000. If it stays like that for 76 years (the average life expectancy for males) then the lifetime risk of being murdered is about 1 in 175. The lifetime risk of being shot is much higher. To be fair this is skewed by the very high rates of violence in the black community.
Yeah I just checked statistics I guess its not true but I still wouldn't plan my trip based on that. The chances of getting murdered is still pretty low.
True. I’ve been here almost 30 years and never seen someone shot, or even seen someone pull a gun.
Scary stats above though.
Scary stats above though.
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That’s not how statistics work.
That the shooter killed 9 and injured 26 in such a short space of time does indicate that even if many members of the public (or all of them) had been carrying a firearm at the time of the shooting they would not have been able to prevent the tragedy from occurring. We already knew that but the NRA and the President do need someone to remind them.
Can you imagine if everyone had guns and then the police come storming in with theirs? There’d be carnage.
And thoughts and prayers afterwards.
And thoughts and prayers afterwards.
https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/ohio-shooting/index.html
Hope he wasn’t working with the Texas shooter i.e. both posting on 8chan.
Feck me.
--Dayton Police Deputy Chief Matt Carper confirmed that Connor Betts is the shooter and that his sister Megan Betts, 22, was one of those killed.
Speaking at a press conference, Carper identified the nine slain victims, who ranged in age from 22 to 57. He said all families have been notified.
Carper said all nine of the victims were found in the same location. --
--Dayton Police Deputy Chief Matt Carper confirmed that Connor Betts is the shooter and that his sister Megan Betts, 22, was one of those killed.
Speaking at a press conference, Carper identified the nine slain victims, who ranged in age from 22 to 57. He said all families have been notified.
Carper said all nine of the victims were found in the same location. --
Jesus
You’ve got to feel for Connor Betts’s parents here too. They’ve lost their son who has shot and killed 9 people and injured 26 others and to add to that their daughter was one of the murder victims.
That would be a wild coincidence. Maybe his sister was the original target.
Apparently the cops responded within 1 minute of the first shots fired, and killed him almost immediately. Seems like a family thing, since it looks like he went there to kill his sister and anyone near her.
Yeah, reports are saying he killed his sister and her BF in their car.
Maybe he didn’t approve of her choice in men.
Maybe he didn’t approve of her choice in men.
On a whatsapp group I'm in the only american guy just wrote "it's very sad but unfortunately it's the price of freedom".
He probably thinks there are two countries on earth: USA and North Korea.
What a massive dickhead.
Very strange because he's actually well traveled, lived in Europe for a few years.
Yeah a couple of dutch girls have engaged him in the chat, I can't see him survive the night without being kicked out.
How do they work then?
7.5 males dying per 100,000 is a 1 in a 13,333 annual risk of being murdered. Over the course of a lifetime (76 years) that would 13,333 divided by 76 which is 1 in 175 chance wouldn’t it? If not what would it be?
The New York Times reported the risk of Americans being murdered was 1 in a 133 back in 1985
https://www.nytimes.com/1985/05/06/...f-being-murdered-are-1-in-133-study-says.html
But the murder rate was much higher back then.
Actually a lot of crimes in other Western hemisphere countries are committed with American weapons. A dome would be a good start in stemming the flow of such weaponryWhy are people going on about domes and walling the USA off
I take your point but there has to be a desire for weaponry for there to be a flow
It will turn out that he was active in incel communities online. And so there will have been two separate mass shootings driven by online radicalization. And still some people will claim it's just harmless memes.
True
Yeah there’s a desire by criminals. Stemming said flow to the criminals would....you know..be a good thing.
I realise that I'll sound like a fascist control freak but...I'd gladly see all incel sites shut down. There's no excuse for such bloody disgusting misogyny.
You didn't end up with Uncle Joe in your tagline for nothing, comrade.
But, I'll let you have that one.
Could be worse - could've meant Biden. 
Why are you touching my shoulders when you post that?Could be worse - could've meant Biden.
