Solskjær press conference vs Arsenal (H)

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Can someone tell Ole that a match day news conference is not a court case "I shall give the truth and nothing but the truth"

Why can't he say i hope certain players will be back for Monday or that it's too soon to know yet. Coming out and saying the likes of Rashford,Pogba,Martial won't be playing is only giving confidence to Arsenal. Good news that Shaw is likely back which means no Young starting (fingers crossed)
He said Pogba is a doubt. And what's the use of saying someone will play if he won't.
 

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What is most irritating to me, is the revisionism that seems to increase year on year out, on the squad Fergie left.
In a few years it'll have morphed into relegation level.
If Ole had taken over that squad, keeping the backroom team in place there's no doubt we'd be in a far better position now.
 

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We literally have no one else upfront and he still needs to think if Mason is ready?

Mason would have been better prepared for this opportunity if he hadn't been taking the piss in subbing him from the 85th mins onwards when we're chasing the fecking game.

Literally just play the kids, some of the older players don't deserve any single second on the pitch for us at all. Prove you're not all talk Ole.
 

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It's the same every season with him.
He'll get a seemingly minor niggle, that may rule him out a game or two - back next game.
Then before you know it, he's been out for 6-7 games.

The "bastads" amongst us will always start to worry if maybe he just doesn't "fancy it" unless 100%.

Still, Greenwood's time for the fantasy footy starting lineup then!
I watched the Palace game twice trying to find out how Martial got injured. He set up Jamess goal, went to celebrate and then when Palace restarted Martial was on the wing with his hands on his knees and basically stayed there the last 5 minutes Very rarely seen anyone get a thigh strain (is that what it is?) from celebrating a goal.

Pogba a bit of the same. Watched the Southampton game and he seemed fine, then he was seen limping onto the coach. I've sprained my ankle more than once and I can tell you it doesn't take 2 hours to decide that it hurts. Same as against Rochdale. No problems on the pitch, came off as normal now another ankle injury?

I'm not saying they're faking injuries but I would say they're the biggest bottlers since Kevin Keegans Newcastle. Mentally weak, that when things aren't going as planned they just dissappear like a puff of smoke. It may be a low blow but I'd put them on the same level as Ozil.

I suppose I can't talk. I've been on paid leave for 2 months now with a knee injury. I could probably go back tomorrow but I'll probably prolong it another month because being quite honest I enjoy getting paid doing nothing:lol:
 

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We literally have no one else upfront and he still needs to think if Mason is ready?

Mason would have been better prepared for this opportunity if he hadn't been taking the piss in subbing him from the 85th mins onwards when we're chasing the fecking game.

Literally just play the kids, some of the older players don't deserve any single second on the pitch for us at all. Prove you're not all talk Ole.
Amen.

Someone needs to lock Ole in a closet with a slideshow of all of SAF's 'wtf' lineups over the years and Mufasa saying 'remember who you are' playing on a loop.

On a more serious note, he might not be good enough tactically to employ the kids well.
 

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We literally have no one else upfront and he still needs to think if Mason is ready?

Mason would have been better prepared for this opportunity if he hadn't been taking the piss in subbing him from the 85th mins onwards when we're chasing the fecking game.

Literally just play the kids, some of the older players don't deserve any single second on the pitch for us at all. Prove you're not all talk Ole.
What about Lingard! Does no one care!?
 

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No being funny Ole but you made your bed of selling Lukaku because of Greenwood and his development so you cant not play him now we're down to the bare bones
What makes you think it was Ole’s decision to sell Lukaku and not replace him. I can remember Ole explicitly saying we could use Lukaku at the club and that we would obviously replace him if he went. I’ll see if I can find the direct quetes, but I expect many saw them.

It’s pretty clear it was someone else who botched that job, and there really aren’t many candidates to chose from when guessing who.
 

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Tbf he doesn't look like Gollum. He looks like Andy Serkis, the guy who played Gollum
 
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So it goes, people have a narrative and find their justifications to support that narrative, not the other way around. Gets worse the more worked up we are as well.

Frontal lobes are a rarity on this forum, it seems.
The worst extension of it, is that Fergie "knew" his team were "finished", so quickly disappeared.

He must be quite disappointed that Jones, Smalling, Evans didn't progress how you'd have thought, and plenty of other situations like that across the line.
Moyes mis-using players, ignoring Van Persie had a specialist training scheme to keep him fit etc.

Oh well - all in the past now.
I wonder what we'd do differently if it was now 2013, and Fergie had just announced his departure today.
 

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If Ole had taken over that squad, keeping the backroom team in place there's no doubt we'd be in a far better position now.
I'll always believe Mourinho straight after Fergie was the perfect choice.
Alas, by the time we got him, he'd become a right old crank, and was on the severe way down. Plus handicapped by our ludicrous regime, and against Pep, who is still at his peak.
 

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We literally have no one else upfront and he still needs to think if Mason is ready?

Mason would have been better prepared for this opportunity if he hadn't been taking the piss in subbing him from the 85th mins onwards when we're chasing the fecking game.

Literally just play the kids, some of the older players don't deserve any single second on the pitch for us at all. Prove you're not all talk Ole.
Imagine if he doesn't start Greenwood with both Martial and Rashford out.

It'd be mind boggling.
What else could we actually do?! Genuinely not sure. An out of form Lingard!? Surely not.
We can't even put James up front, as we then only have teen wingers to come in there!?
 

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I'll always believe Mourinho straight after Fergie was the perfect choice.
Alas, by the time we got him, he'd become a right old crank, and was on the severe way down. Plus handicapped by our ludicrous regime, and against Pep, who is still at his peak.
I agree. Instead, the combination of Moyes ripping up the backroom and then LVG coming in and selling proven winners and replacing them with absolute dross could not have been worse if we had tried.
 

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I agree. The combination of Moyes ripping up the backroom and then LVG coming in and selling proven winners and replacing them with absolute dross could not have been worse if we had tried.
How we could actually have done worse in the last 6 years would be an interesting take on the done to death threads we've seen.

We did win 3 trophies along the way. We could easily not have won those I suppose.
Not come 2nd, etc.

It could actually have been a fair bit worse.
 

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Why, just why?!
Breaking into Spanish totally pointlessly while speaking the rest in English!?
Because he can. Few people can pull that off and still keep the same dignity they had before they uttered the words.
 

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I'll always believe Mourinho straight after Fergie was the perfect choice.
Alas, by the time we got him, he'd become a right old crank, and was on the severe way down. Plus handicapped by our ludicrous regime, and against Pep, who is still at his peak.
If I recall, Mourinho was practically begging for the job in SAF's final year as manager.

Jose was still highly thought of back then, appointing him as SAF's replacement seemed like the only logical choice. Quite how the board came to the conclusion that David Moyes was the better option has baffled the brightest scientific minds ever since.
 

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If I recall, Mourinho was practically begging for the job in SAF's final year as manager.

Jose was still highly thought of back then, appointing him as SAF's replacement seemed like the only logical choice. Quite how the board came to the conclusion that David Moyes was the better option has baffled the brightest scientific minds ever since.
It was the way the club spun it as him being the "chosen one", and then swiftly playing the revisionist game down the line, making subtle noises that actually he was about 73rd choice, but everyone else was unavailable.

The idea that a team like United had to get out of contract , free transfer managers is shocking.
But we have done it for 3 of the 4 since Fergie, with Ole costing buttons instead.
 

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How we could actually have done worse in the last 6 years would be an interesting take on the done to death threads we've seen.

We did win 3 trophies along the way. We could easily not have won those I suppose.
Not come 2nd, etc.

It could actually have been a fair bit worse.
This would make a great reality show. You have a title winning squad, 800 million spend, and 6 years to achieve nothing. Go!
 

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God bless Ole, can’t ever dislike the man. The job may be too big for him, but can never question he’s a quality person!!!
 

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This would make a great reality show. You have a title winning squad, 800 million spend, and 6 years to achieve nothing. Go!
If only we knew how things would pan out - not least how fees would absolutely go to the stratosphere.

Imagine stocking up on the best prospects before they became 50m min!
 

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God bless Ole, can’t ever dislike the man. The job may be too big for him, but can never question he’s a quality person!!!
Yep, but unfortunately we're heading for the nightmare scenario, an ex legend sullying the only happy memories we had of them!

I wonder what Giggs thinks of all of this.
Is he gutted he didn't get the same opportunity? Or does he think he's swerved one?
 

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If I recall, Mourinho was practically begging for the job in SAF's final year as manager.

Jose was still highly thought of back then, appointing him as SAF's replacement seemed like the only logical choice. Quite how the board came to the conclusion that David Moyes was the better option has baffled the brightest scientific minds ever since.
I'd say it probably all comes back round on Ed again. He's a control freak and he (rightly) probably thought he couldn't control Mou so he took the cowards way out and appointed someone he knew he could control instead of what was actually best for the club. Then when he was basically out of options he really didn't have a choice other than to bring Mou on board.

If Mou had of came in first I actually think he would of towed the line a lot more than people think and had his rebuild done within 3 years. He would of imploded anyway but the club would of been in a lot better place for the next manager. Instead he maybe became bitter about us because his ego doesn't like being ignored and he came into the job half hearted and a screw you attitude towards Ed. And here we are today.
 

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God bless Ole, can’t ever dislike the man. The job may be too big for him, but can never question he’s a quality person!!!
He has been hung out to dry.
That's what is sad to see.

He wanted Ander retained. Did not happen.

He needed at least one midfielder and a striker. Did not happen.

The Pogba situation. I don't know what he was promised in terms of squad strengthening by the board when he signed. But looking at what we have now, he cant be blamed for wanting out.

The hiring of Ole himself is questionable.
I'm tempted to think, the 'Temp manager' situation includes the current season.
 

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God bless Ole, can’t ever dislike the man. The job may be too big for him, but can never question he’s a quality person!!!
I don’t believe anyone here actually dislikes him, surely not people who were around for the treble season, I will always love Ole and be grateful for what he did here as a player regardless of his tenure as a manager here.
I criticize him on his managerial and coaching abilities alone, but I could never have ill feelings towards him.
 

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Imagine if he doesn't start Greenwood with both Martial and Rashford out.

It'd be mind boggling.
What else could we actually do?! Genuinely not sure. An out of form Lingard!? Surely not.
We can't even put James up front, as we then only have teen wingers to come in there!?
Lingard upfront, James on the left with Peirara on the right. Matic, Mata and Scott in the midfield. Defense and goalkeeper picks itself. No youngsters needed.

I genuinely believe he'll do this. We'll basically just turtle up and hit them on the counter.
 

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Lingard upfront, James on the left with Peirara on the right. Matic, Mata and Scott in the midfield. Defense and goalkeeper picks itself. No youngsters needed.

I genuinely believe he'll do this. We'll basically just turtle up and hit them on the counter.
That will be truly grim.
If he doesn't start Greenwood, a guy he has put faith in as 3rd choice striker when the 2 other guys are out, it's just inexplicable.
Especially as Lingard is in muck form.
And certainly because no one on the planet would play Pereira wide!
 

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I don't interpret his quotes the way you do so I guess we are just going around in circles here. I do see the system in place and it worked well in pre season and our first two games but injuries have hit and no system is going to make bad players look good. Klopp and Pep have great systems in place and can rotate with minimal disruption but they did not get there overnight, they both had lousy results and horrible performances at times in their first 18 months until they got close to having a squad capable of doing what they wanted. We don't even have 11 players in the first team who are up to the task, let alone a squad. We need 2 or 3 more windows and 6 players at least regardless of who is managing us, you cannot commit to a complete teardown of the squad and then panic 6 games into the season.
If we need 5/6 players why do we need 3 windows?

The snails pace this rebuild is being allowed is criminal.

We get 2 transfer windows a season & part of Woodward’s role should be recruitment. Waiting until each transfer window to negotiate is exactly where our problems lay.

This isn’t a dig at your point, I think you make valid ones but 3 windows to sign 6 first team players [could be 5 or 7 in my mind, the number isn’t the issue] is surely malpractice.

We aren’t trying to integrate players into a great squad with great character; the squad could actually do with a large shake up.

We must demand more from club & manager; clubs like Citeh stumble their way into 2/3 signings a summer & their squad is so far ahead of ours. Juve in Italy are working on Free Transfers years ahead. The list goes on.
 

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If we need 5/6 players why do we need 3 windows?

The snails pace this rebuild is being allowed is criminal.

We get 2 transfer windows a season & part of Woodward’s role should be recruitment. Waiting until each transfer window to negotiate is exactly where our problems lay.

This isn’t a dig at your point, I think you make valid ones but 3 windows to sign 6 first team players [could be 5 or 7 in my mind, the number isn’t the issue] is surely malpractice.

We aren’t trying to integrate players into a great squad with great character; the squad could actually do with a large shake up.

We must demand more from club & manager; clubs like Citeh stumble their way into 2/3 signings a summer & their squad is so far ahead of ours. Juve in Italy are working on Free Transfers years ahead. The list goes on.
Woodward's too busy handling our next commercial deal to work on transfers during the season.

Don't worry, he'll have plenty of time once the sponsors start drying up when we're perpetually stuck in mid table by the end of this season. Maybe he'll what he needs to do by the end of next season.
 

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If only we knew how things would pan out - not least how fees would absolutely go to the stratosphere.

Imagine stocking up on the best prospects before they became 50m min!
Talk about an investment opportunity. Greizman (sp?) has something like a 700 million release clause in his new contract. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ed has nightmares about this.
 

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God bless Ole, can’t ever dislike the man. The job may be too big for him, but can never question he’s a quality person!!!
We don't need a quality person.
We need a winner.
Is Ole a winner...