Nar, he'll need to do something at a much bigger club for me to want us to consider him.Has to be a serious contender now for the big job when it does come up. Twice proven at a club that never did it before shows amazing talent as a manager.
Well done Ole!!
Definitely. I'm a quarter Ålesunder and even I think they're cnuts.Not to be mention the Ålesunders (if we're talking Møre and Romsdal and not Nordmøre).
Same here. A Dutch club would suit him a lot better than a German one at this point due to the general ambiance around dutch clubs being a lot more similar to a Norwegian one(e.g. more homely and closer to semi professional roots than most German clubs).Nar, he'll need to do something at a much bigger club for me to want us to consider him.
His name alone helps him massively in Norway, and his connections with United have given him a helping hand too with signings like Eikrem. I'd like Ole to join an Ajax or similar asap.
They've had some financial backing - I don't believe anything massive, like - but enough for them to compete. He didn't for example take a shit team and make them brilliant but had the backing to bring some players in to make them competitive.Can any Norwegians tell me if Solskjaer is really starting to show what a brilliant manager he could be by winning the title twice with Molde, or is it more of a 'at the right place at the right time' kinda thing? I have no idea of the strength of Molde (both squad wise and financially) compared to other Norwegian teams and what his contribution exactly is to this Molde side.
From what I gathered, Molde isn't really the biggest club so I'm inclined to think this is a huge feat.
Theres been many manager for the last 10 years or so who have had the same kind of backing at Molde without coming close to what he has achieved. Winning once might have been considered a fluke because of the relatively unstable Norwegian League, but twice in a row is quite an achievement. You couldnt take any manager and expect results just because of the financial backing.Can any Norwegians tell me if Solskjaer is really starting to show what a brilliant manager he could be by winning the title twice with Molde, or is it more of a 'at the right place at the right time' kinda thing? I have no idea of the strength of Molde (both squad wise and financially) compared to other Norwegian clubs and what his contribution exactly is to this Molde side.
From what I gathered, Molde isn't really the biggest club so I'm inclined to think this is a huge feat.
What a great guy and what a manager he's proving to be. I hope he does just that as well. It would be simply amazing to see the club up against the big boys of Europe. No doubt his stock will be getting even higher now but it's best for his career if he stays there for the time being. There's plenty more things he can learn with them.Solskjær has done a magnificent job at Molde. Let's hope he can take them to the group stage of the Champions League next season.
goosebump moments aplenty. Beautiful story about life after United for undisputed legend of our club.If you haven't watched it yet:
Amazing man.
So when you say let him build his own legacy, you really mean let's preserve SAF's legacy.goosebump moments aplenty. Beautiful story about life after United for undisputed legend of our club.
Never realised that he was such an intelligent man. And he is Manchester United to the core. And absorbed more from SAF than any other ex player now in management. And that he has remembered every small detail from his career with us and putting that into action as his manager (like the story of when Molde lost 0-5, and him remembering what SAF said to the team when we lost 5-0 vs Newcastle years ago). Its that level of detail that will keep him ahead of the pack for year to come
Screw Mourinho or Guardiola, I want OGS to take over after SAF. Give him 5 years, surround him with Gary Neville, Phil Neville (if he'll come back), Rio Ferdinand, Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes and let him build his own legacy.
We'd then have our very own 'boot room' for the next 20 years. And it would still feel like SAF's club, our play still built around his philosophy. That would be SAFs dream Im sure. Thats mine too.
Thanks for this! Love that guy with the Legend's Chair.If you haven't watched it yet:
Amazing man.
Thats very true, but he has also cracked under the pressure and had to quit for his own health, we dont want that happening to ole, Barcelona pretty much run themselves on the pitch and dont need any tactical changes realistically, we would be significantly different.Having said that Guardiola had even less experience didnt he? He only had the reserves - or was it youth? - management experience at Barca. Ole has the youth team background as well as the top job at Molde.
But yes, as someone said yesterday, the ideal would be for him to go to Germany or France or even Holland and manage a bigger club there first. Or win the CL with Molde next year. That would probably do it.
Not true. Barca players have talked on numerous occasions about Guardiola's attention to finer tactical details and how he was absolutely crazy about getting things perfect tactically.Thats very true, but he has also cracked under the pressure and had to quit for his own health, we dont want that happening to ole, Barcelona pretty much run themselves on the pitch and dont need any tactical changes realistically, we would be significantly different.
Of course you are right about letting him being his own man. But simply put, he is so heavily influenced by all things SAF that I think the club would feel the same. And that would be because OGS knows no other way than the SAF way.So when you say let him build his own legacy, you really mean let's preserve SAF's legacy.
It's a lovely fantasy. But in reality, you'd have to let Ole be his own man. If we got him, and that part of the fantasy at least has a chance of coming true, we'd have to let him evolve the club, not mummify it and preserve it as a tribute to a former manager.
Yes but what i mean is now he has gone they still have those ethics instilled, it does not require a new manager to come in and change things around - exactly why Villanova has sucseeded so far.Not true. Barca players have talked on numerous occasions about Guardiola's attention to finer tactical details and how he was absolutely crazy about getting things perfect tactically.
Ohh, that i agree with mate.Yes but what i mean is now he has gone they still have those ethics instilled, it does not require a new manager to come in and change things around - exactly why Villanova has sucseeded so far.
When our new manager comes will they try to stamp a completely new image on us? I very much doubt Mourinho or Guardiola would want to play a counter attacking 4-4-2.
Klopp perhaps would be the best fit with our style, and Ole would know the ins and outs of how we play.
I know what you mean to be fair. It is a difficult subject to be impartial about, as soon as you think about something like this the emotion of it can run away from you a bit I think. After replying to your post I watched the docu and I understood exactly where you were coming from. Ole put it quite well in it himself, as well. He cant be the same man as SAF, he has to take the best things from all his own experiences, and SAF will be the single biggest influence on him. But he would have his own ideas and he would have to be allowed to change things a bit. I also wouldnt want the club - or SAF - to dictate terms to him, in terms of having such and such a player in his backroom staff. SAF would never stand for such interference and our future managers shouldnt either. There is a line between advice and interference and we need to make sure SAF himself, and Glazer / Gill / whoever do not cross it.Of course you are right about letting him being his own man. But simply put, he is so heavily influenced by all things SAF that I think the club would feel the same. And that would be because OGS knows no other way than the SAF way.
Funny in the VDO that they say he has even developed his own 'hair dryer'
Having said that Guardiola had even less experience didnt he? He only had the reserves - or was it youth? - management experience at Barca. Ole has the youth team background as well as the top job at Molde.
But yes, as someone said yesterday, the ideal would be for him to go to Germany or France or even Holland and manage a bigger club there first. Or win the CL with Molde next year. That would probably do it.
They've had some financial backing - I don't believe anything massive, like - but enough for them to compete. He didn't for example take a shit team and make them brilliant but had the backing to bring some players in to make them competitive.
Winning the league twice is a pretty big feat with Molde I'd say doing it once can be put down to other things but retaining it shows a lot.
He is brilliant, no doot aboot it. He's had backing, both financially but more importantly he has been trusted. He's been allowed to transform Molde, not just on the pitch, but the staff etc, he's even been hands on in finding their new chef! And his status in Molde and Norway has given him a helpful automatic authority. Eirik Raude is the resident Molde man, he can tell you more about it.
The financial backing he's had has been slightly exaggerated. Transfer wise they've probably sold for more than they've bought the last couple of years. (Or?) But I suppose the reason they have been able to be the first team since 1984 to defend the title except for Rosenborg, is that they didn't (have to) sell their star players. And if they have to this time, they'll probably replace them well. Another reason, of course, is that Solskjær has made sure that they haven't been complacent.
Molde haven't really bought stars like Rosenborg always do (and even Vålerenga). (Well, after the first trophy, and getting into Europe, they did: Hovland, PPD and Hussain may be classified as such. But the signings before their first trophy weren't stars.) They've bought youth and have a great mixture of old, young and those in the middle. However, maybe Solskjær's most impressing feature is his character. He's always so calm and sporting. Even Rosenborg (Molde's arch rivals) fans will struggle to say a bad word about him. He's managed to transform the entire Molde football club, instilling great calmness (despite having the most annoyingly wasteful forwards in the world of football), hunger and professionalism into it.
I really think he is special. Probably even more so as a manager than as a player. (And my ideal scenario would be that the football god himself stays in charge for another couple of seasons before Solskjær comes straight from Molde, where he's made Molde into the new Rosenborg.)
Theres been many manager for the last 10 years or so who have had the same kind of backing at Molde without coming close to what he has achieved. Winning once might have been considered a fluke because of the relatively unstable Norwegian League, but twice in a row is quite an achievement. You couldnt take any manager and expect results just because of the financial backing.