Have you recovered from Lille winning the league yet?you don’t have to end that poster career like that. That was a savage response
Southgate vs Solskjaer
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The fecking disrespect, Southgate isn't fit to lace Ole's (management) boots. Southgate parks the bus and barely tries to counter. Does feck all else.
United fan on 606 wants them both gone. Ole > Southgate though, don't think the latter would work a club level. Don't think either can be sacked for making finals though..
yes blame that on Pochettino who hasn't been in charge for over a year yet and didn't inherit a team that was top of the table. Two league trophies and cpl semi final is a fantastic accomplishment in the short time he is in chargeHe was only 2 points behind when he took charge of them right?
Anti-Ole crew trying to score points when England's losing a final is just what this night needed.
Go feck yourself.
Go feck yourself.
Ole v Gary?
A fight between the two would be like that scene from Bridget Jones Diary (don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about).
A fight between the two would be like that scene from Bridget Jones Diary (don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about).
Ole in the EL final left his best team on who were dominating as there was a huge drop in quality on the bench.
Southgate refused to change exhausted players who were being outplayed by a team with more energy, and played for pens against a 7ft keeper who never loses shootouts.
Southgate refused to change exhausted players who were being outplayed by a team with more energy, and played for pens against a 7ft keeper who never loses shootouts.
I'm not Ole's biggest fan but the guy is Sir Alex compared to Southgate. Let's be real here.
This has already been discussed in the other thread. Lille and Monaco barely dropped many points. Little psg could do when the gap was significant
Pathetic thread, but unsurprising on this place.
Didn't PSG lose to both Lille and Monaco?
Ole's record with Cardiff is equally as shit as Southgate's with Middlesborough (Southgate might just edge it).
Southgate has world class players on his bench but refused to use them.
When Solskjaer is asked he admits that his bench don't have the players that can change the game for him even though we all disagree but Southgate has no excuse, he just refused to change the game.
If Sterling wasn't going to be penalty taker then he should have been subbed.
Italy has inferior players but Mancini didn't hesitate to make the changes which is the difference of a good manager and an average one.
When Solskjaer is asked he admits that his bench don't have the players that can change the game for him even though we all disagree but Southgate has no excuse, he just refused to change the game.
If Sterling wasn't going to be penalty taker then he should have been subbed.
Italy has inferior players but Mancini didn't hesitate to make the changes which is the difference of a good manager and an average one.
Yes, a team can lose against other team in football. Anyway, wrong thread to be discussing this. Go read old post in the Pochettino thread I'd you are interested in that discussion
He was 2 points behind when he took over and still couldn’t fecking win.We'll see how Ole does this season
He's better, but I don't think the gap is that big
He's better, but I don't think the gap is that big
Southgate certainly plays the worse football on the eye, that I know for absolute certain. We also complain about Oles refusal to make subs but a lot of the time you ask those people to justify their arguments with what the manager is supposed to bring off the bench to change the game and there is silence. We had Sancho, Foden, Rashford and Grealish twiddling their thumbs most of the tournament. Apparently this is faith in the side selected, otherwise known as stubbornness and/or passiveness.
These rather obvious and general observations aside, club football and international football are completely different jobs.
These rather obvious and general observations aside, club football and international football are completely different jobs.
Are you ignoring Ole’s record with United?
I don’t think Ole leaves Sancho and Grealish on the bench for a start.
Little PSG could do when Lille dropped 7 points in the last 9 matches? Shit excuse after shit excuse.
Do you think if we were to meet today's Real Madrid or Barcelona in a hypothetical final that Ole would be proactive vs them and try and take the game to them?
You just couldn't wait, could you. Before the tears on Declan Rice's face dried, you just had to start using Southgate as another stick to beat OGS with, as if that made the remotest sense.
Of all fecking idiot shit-stirring threads, this takes the cake. Someone please close it. And ban the fecker who started it.
Thats the difference between an offensive and defensive coach. Ole would have England playing to their strengths like he does with United. Southgate likes the pragmatic safe and cautious approach.
If you can't see the parallels between tonight and the UEL final (against worst opposition), you're deluded. Most of us on here are United and England fans. Why are some United fans so touchy over Ole? The man has just contrived to lose a final to Villafeckinreal. And now as an England fan, Southgate has bottled a 1-0 win against a Italy team that could be got at but instead sat back and let them dominate us.
Southgate is like the worst verison of Ole, and I don't think its even an exaggeration to say that. Italy's high pressure attacking style would have been perfect for Ole ball.
Southgate has rode his luck because he has a fantastic squad. When it came to the crunch he didn't have the balls to make the most of the opportunity that came his way. How can anyone defend that performance?
One of main reasons why Shaw helped Southgate's team immensely reach the final is Ole who built his confidence in the first place also to score a goal in the final.
That's the difference for me. At least Ole plays his best players. Or players who are in better form. Southgate has his favourites and will only play others in extreme circumstances. Grealish and Sancho both had 1(!) start each this tournament for crying out loud.
Very weird thread. In absolutely no way was Solskjaer in my mind when England lost. You people need help.
Both really poor at in game management. Southgate was really poor from 30th minute onwards. Mancini showed who's managed the big clubs in football and totally changed the forward line and Italy completely dominated afterwards.
Sancho and Rashford should've come on way earlier to actually attempt to win the game.
Sancho and Rashford should've come on way earlier to actually attempt to win the game.
Agree. In both games the better coached team won. Look at the difference Mancini did to Italy between the first and second halves. He changed the system and Italy came out a different team in the second half.
Both need to learn the art of early substitutions.
Well let's see if Ole does trust his bench once he has better players.
Ole at the least would've tried to get a second goal.
Both are very one dimensional. Ole however does offer a very good counter attacking solution. With how high Italy's back line was I'm surprised Southgate never thought it an opportunity to get in behind.
Two losers
Honestly. It’s infuriating. The same shit with another team over and over again.This is not true, Italy's backline started really deep.
As the match progressed and it was clear England was a turtle, they started playing progressively higher.
And England didn't evolve to meet that change, because of conservative tactics.
Dumb and dumber. Question is not " Who is the better manager?"
It should be "who is less shit?"
Both are painfully out of their depths and shouldn't be anywhere near their jobs. Both United & England love to constrain themselves.
It should be "who is less shit?"
Both are painfully out of their depths and shouldn't be anywhere near their jobs. Both United & England love to constrain themselves.