Ok I get it - I do get it but i'm a bit disturbed about all the talk about points deductions, etc. so it's my way of trying to overcompensate for the nerves I have about it.Glad to hear I'm the hard stuff
I completely understand that. I'd feel the same if it was United in this spot. In my private moments I'm able to apply a little bit of sensible thought though.
At least you pick a position brutha.Glad to hear I'm the hard stuff
In fairness I'm pretty complimentary of the club in most aspects, I just also joke about it and don't particularly like Levy, though accept he's done right by the club in many ways. I'm practically in love with our manager and think we have a decent shot at top four so I've never considered myself a 'relentless realist' .. till I saw some of the Levy love from the Spurs fans on here. It's like they all have his picture in their lockets and can't even take a joke without rushing to his immediate defence.
'kin ellHey what I do? I feel if my name wasn’t what it is I would get an easier time. You should always take the blue pill.
You're comfortably the best Spurs fan on the board. You never go near anything too outlandish. Though your fellow Spurs fans see some of your points as over the top - Somehow failing to remember that they're posting on a United forum. Your views are mild compared to what we think of Spurs actions at times.
Not a swipe at you but your line prompted me. [Silent Joe Lewis owns Spurs btw, as you asked. He should be vilified the way that the Arsenal board is, but that's another story]
Levy doesn't own Spurs - Joe Lewis owns Spurs. Levy is Joe Lewis's godson I think.
The fighting cock?
Wtf, that made my day.
How is this real?I don't think he's his godfather. I believe he sees Daniel as his protege. (EDIT: I was wrong, it's both)
Oh, it's real alright. Take a look for yourself:
We'll see .. so much IMO depends on whether we make the top four this season, if we do then I feel it'll be a significant success considering we added nobody to the team and are going through a bit of a turbulent time. I know it's a bit of a poor mentality treating top four as a trophy, but with all the stadium costs which are clearly impacting our ability to spend in the market (Not even remotely taking seriously the idea we're not dipping it out of 'principle') if we also lose CL money I can see Levy sanctioning a big sale. I feel like if we do finish outside of the top four, the drama next summer will make this summers arguments seem like absolutely nothing.
Wow seems it is everyone else's fault and everyone else's problem to fix except Spurs for the majority on that forum.
ENIC Group owns 85.55% of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. ENIC Group is privately held, and Joe Lewis owns 70.6% while Daniel Levy owns 29.4%. This means, effectively, that Joe Lewis owns 60.39% of the football club and Daniel Levy owns 25.15%. The other 14.45% is made up of mostly small shareholders, club members, etc.
I don't think that's the issue here, yes it kinda sucks for some Spurs fans but the main bit is that it jeopardize the fairness of the home & away league rules. I wonder what the FA is going to do if they can't play in it until October/November. Moving a fixture or two is annoying but if it means throwing 5 or 6 teams in the mix, there's got to be some sort of punitive action.
It will be sooner than that, my guess next summer.... if the stadium is complete lol.
This is why I find it so staggering how many spurs fans believe Levy has the sporting interests of the club as a priority. He is massively invested in them turning a profit.
Mike Ashley died?
He is massively invested in the club increasing it's overall equity, which is an important distinction. Caring about short term profits has never been the MO of ENIC, unlike more shortsided or cash strapped owners such as Mike Ashley, Lord Sugar and the like. ENIC has no other investments or debts, it's literally just a tool to hold the equity & debt from the football club and it's related property projects (unlike say - FSG or Kroenke or the Glazers who have other investments they use United, Arsenal and Liverpool as equity for or to generate positive cash flow to support).
Revenue and value of the club increasing is not mutually exclusive with the club doing well. In fact, it is quite correlated (rich clubs do well, in order for clubs to do well they need to be rich).
Usually.
To an extent - Liverpool and Arsenal have proven there is a point you reach where you are so well known that you can generate enormous amounts of revenue and build equity in the football club without having to improve on results. To some extent United is in that same situation as well right now.
They didn't spent, cause their stadium cost a billion or whatever, not cause Levy is taking money outside of Spurs. I am not sure how do Spurs operate, but if is anything like United, when/if they take money out of the club, it will be on public records for everyone to see it.
Liverpool and Arsenal have lower revenue than City (not sure about their value, didn't check it) though, while United (who have been doing very well until 5 years ago) have a much higher revenue and I guess, more than double the value.
Can I ask how long have you been following football? I’m honestly not trying to sound like a dick, but take a look at where we as a club were prior to 2001. Then look at the other teams like Leeds, Everton, West Ham, Villa, Newcastle who all got bought over. When you look at then and now other owners have done a hell of a lot worse than Levy, I fact 3 relatively big clubs have been relegated. Don’t get me wrong, Levy has made mistakes, but considering he isn’t a sugar daddy and is looking to make a profit the guy has done a great job. I don’t idolise him but I respect how far he has brought us on.
I get all that. He's earned a lot of leeway (I still have great respect for him unceremoniously dumping redknapp on his arse).
This, pretty much.
