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I don't remember him being tried much as a proper box to box midfielder next to a DM, though, which in my opinion is his second best incarnation after a libero and he was great in that. If he isn't a libero he's used as a defensive midfielder as an anchor which isn't that great for him.
I tried him out on all 3 positions 1st sheep draft. Played as sweeper in 1st game, as B2B in a diamond in QF, but nobody bought that, so switched him as a pivot DM...and still lost the game :lol:
 
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I'm really starting to wonder about the unnamed players rule. Is that really that much of a difference maker? I don't really enforce it that much in drafts I run and they do seem to work equally well.

Maybe ait should be enforced only after 10th round picks, where research actually makes a difference.
 

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Yeah that's pretty well suited to his peak in my opinion.
It could be considered a little constraining for him in that position next to another B2B.

I was thinking something more like this:

----RB-CB-CB-LWB
--Sammer-Bozsik--
------Front 4--------
 

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I'm really starting to wonder about the unnamed players rule. Is that really that much of a difference maker? I don't really enforce it that much in drafts I run and they do seem to work equally well.

Maybe ait should be enforced only after 10th round picks, where research actually makes a difference.
I see your point but here we'll probably end up picking some relatively obscure ones so I wouldn't want someone to mention him so that someone else snaps him up when he hadn't thought of him in the first place.

If you saw before I broke my own rule regarding this before. It's easy done.
 

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I see your point but here we'll probably end up picking some relatively obscure ones so I wouldn't want someone to mention him so that someone else snaps him up when he hadn't thought of him in the first place.

If you saw before I broke my own rule regarding this before. It's easy done.
Nothing on you or this draft, but just a general rumination I've done before. Your post just triggered it. What you say is perfectly true....but imo it's an odd event happening and not really that game changing advantage....esp as it's prone to happen in later rounds, when the overall quality is declining anyway.
 

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I knew Sammer would be a tough one to fit in, but I think it can be done well with the players available. As well as not really blocking anyone, I think him and the players he'll make me go after give a good level of flexibility for the in-game injuries.

Mostly I just really like Sammer as a player, and there's not really anyone else like him in the draft which makes it interesting for me.
 

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I knew Sammer would be a tough one to fit in, but I think it can be done well with the players available. As well as not really blocking anyone, I think him and the players he'll make me go after give a good level of flexibility for the in-game injuries.

Mostly I just really like Sammer as a player, and there's not really anyone else like him in the draft which makes it interesting for me.
Completely forgot about the injuries. Thanks for that reminder so I don't go too specialised.
 

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I'm really starting to wonder about the unnamed players rule. Is that really that much of a difference maker? I don't really enforce it that much in drafts I run and they do seem to work equally well.

Maybe ait should be enforced only after 10th round picks, where research actually makes a difference.
Not really, when we're not talking about the ones that could realistically be forgotten while being good enough to participate in the draft. And there aren't many of those, not really - because when you get this kind of player you should be able to sell him probably and if you know enough of him you won't forget about him anyway.

I guess we shouldn't discuss available picks in given categories (not relatively to this draft but when there is a restricted pool with the likes of -- surprisingly qualifying to <30 caps or -- playing under Mourinho at Inter)
 

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I knew Sammer would be a tough one to fit in, but I think it can be done well with the players available. As well as not really blocking anyone, I think him and the players he'll make me go after give a good level of flexibility for the in-game injuries.

Mostly I just really like Sammer as a player, and there's not really anyone else like him in the draft which makes it interesting for me.
Of course. And no mates rule makes him a great pick, really, even for the first round
 

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We go with this fella:


Gio - 1. Messi
The Stain - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo
OneNil - 1. P. Maldini
DavidG - 1. Ronaldo
Raees/Invictus 1. Nesta
Bleezy 1. Sammer
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Mazhar/Enigma 1. Desailly
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I'm really starting to wonder about the unnamed players rule. Is that really that much of a difference maker? I don't really enforce it that much in drafts I run and they do seem to work equally well.

Maybe ait should be enforced only after 10th round picks, where research actually makes a difference.
I don't mind the rule scrapped but the consensus seem to like it so I just try to remind myself about it. When you don't care yourself it is easy to name some players here and there. I've done it so many times myself.
 

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I don't mind the rule scrapped but the consensus seem to like it so I just try to remind myself about it. When you don't care yourself it is easy to name some players here and there. I've done it so many times myself.
The reason I like to keep it myself is because, even though I know about the players in a pool, I may not have considered them when trying to set up my team, so if someone name-drops them, then I suddenly increase my available options.

Yes, there are some obvious names, but not everyone would have recalled them when planning out their team. Unless we all get to that level where we will remember (not just know/get exposed to previously, but remember) certain players, I feel like it's good to keep it for fairness' sake.
 

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Gio - 1. Messi
The Stain - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo
OneNil - 1. P. Maldini
DavidG - 1. Ronaldo
Raees/Invictus 1. Nesta
Bleezy 1. Sammer
Skizzo 1. Ronaldinho
Mazhar/Enigma 1. Desailly
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VivaJanuzaj/EAP
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Please use this list.
 

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Gio - 1. Messi
The Stain - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo
OneNil - 1. P. Maldini
DavidG - 1. Ronaldo
Raees/Invictus 1. Nesta
Bleezy 1. Sammer
Skizzo 1. Ronaldinho
Mazhar/Enigma 1. Desailly
Tuppet 1. Zidane
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Where do people actually rate lahms beat position? I love what he brings to the DM role, some of his recovery tackling is sublime.
 

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Where do people actually rate lahms beat position? I love what he brings to the DM role, some of his recovery tackling is sublime.
Still at right back, although I quite liked him in midfield
 

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Where do people actually rate lahms beat position? I love what he brings to the DM role, some of his recovery tackling is sublime.
Right back for me. Can play midfield in a perfectly built system, but is a world class right back in any system.
 

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Anto used him next to -- in a strange but nicely looking formation, I don't think that he was an anchorman in this team

FW - FW
LW - AM - RW
Sammer - B2B
LCB - CB - RCB
GK​
That was the formation with ball. He was a crucial player in switching from 4-4-1-1 in defence to 3-5-2 in attack with the defensive fullbacks tucking in as he burst forward. I had been using an Ironman before him, but spent the entire draft waiting for him to make it all work seamlessly. Nobody else could get close.

The B2B next to him was Bayerncnut and, in fairness, he was the oddball one there. Would have happily fielded a proper specialist DM instead if only one had come my way. I needed the passing though so I'd rather a restricted Bayerncnut than an Ukelele.