MikeKing
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He didn't hide. Love his attitude. Big talent.
Not ready for Champions League Quarter finals?Too early to judge, but he is not ready yet.
Useless cnut. Better get shot quick.Not ready for Champions League Quarter finals?
Yeah I’d say close control wise he can exceed Rashford and I’ve watched games of him at youth level and he can obviously weave in and out of players.His dribbling in combination with his pace is very impressive from a technical POV. He was thrown into a central midfield role yesterday on the left and he's not a midfielder. I honestly believe he will be a brilliant player for us, and let's wait and see him play afew full first team games before jumping to conclusions. I honestly believe he's a better dribbler of the ball than Rashford..
In the few minutes he was on yesterday, he spent more time defending than actually attacking. But his defensive work was good to see.
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Good post bro..Yeah I’d say close control wise he can exceed Rashford and I’ve watched games of him at youth level and he can obviously weave in and out of players.
Just saying at this moment in time, from the cameos and games I’ve seen of Gomes versus what I’ve seen of Chong - Gomes to me looks like he’s more ready for first team football - that time when Jose gave him his debut he looked excellent and has never been given a shot since.
Greenwood is obviously coming from an injury and is a unknown entity at this level but his youth performances have shown a range of skill which for me has surpassed what I’ve seen from Chong (who for me needs to add a touch more variety to his game).
Anyone writing Chong off is just being stupid - my point is merely to say we don’t have much minutes to offer young lads at this stage of the season so we have to be very selective as to who is worthy of getting those minutes and I see Gomes/Greenwood as more deserving of those in this moment in time. No doubt in training Chong must be killing it as he seems ahead of these guys at the moment.
Agreed. That said, huge credit to Ole for choosing the right moments to bring each of these lads on. Chong first instead of Mason for instance. Really allowed for each to impact those critical minutes and I can't imagine the confidence they'll be feeling now that we're thru .Yeah I’d say close control wise he can exceed Rashford and I’ve watched games of him at youth level and he can obviously weave in and out of players.
Just saying at this moment in time, from the cameos and games I’ve seen of Gomes versus what I’ve seen of Chong - Gomes to me looks like he’s more ready for first team football - that time when Jose gave him his debut he looked excellent and has never been given a shot since.
Greenwood is obviously coming from an injury and is a unknown entity at this level but his youth performances have shown a range of skill which for me has surpassed what I’ve seen from Chong (who for me needs to add a touch more variety to his game).
Anyone writing Chong off is just being stupid - my point is merely to say we don’t have much minutes to offer young lads at this stage of the season so we have to be very selective as to who is worthy of getting those minutes and I see Gomes/Greenwood as more deserving of those in this moment in time. No doubt in training Chong must be killing it as he seems ahead of these guys at the moment.
Loan I take it?Dutch media saying that Ajax are interested in hiring him next season
Loaning them Chong and TFM would be good business all round, I wouldn't sell them. I was initially going to say include Chong on loan in a deal for Sancho but that's too much of a dream.Dutch media saying that Ajax are interested in hiring him next season
They don't. They are reporting on a story in the Sun that United are considering a loan and that last summer some clubs showed interest, possibly Ajax, but they held on to him. It that's true Ajax dodged a bullet.Dutch media saying that Ajax are interested in hiring him next season
As well as the system to filter posts of people who disagree with an opinion but have nothing to say.Christ the newbie system is really failing recently.
I already said all that was needed yesterday. Now, it just looks like you have an agenda and are trolling. Hence, why the newbie system has failed. You haven't brought anything of actual value to this thread.As well as the system to filter posts of people who disagree with an opinion but have nothing to say.
It has been for a while.Christ the newbie system is really failing recently.
I just filter out the brain dead posts, particularly if I can spot a particular agenda in a posterA lot of people in this thread proving why sometimes it’s not a win/win situation to throw the kids on. I mean feck me, he’s barely played at all for the first team and you’re asking him to come on, out of position and effect a game where we’ve barely threatened.
He had one run through the middle with a heavy touch and lost the ball. That’s really the only time I can remember him doing anything wrong before the penalty. Once the penalty is scored then it’s clearly a disadvantage to have him on the pitch. There’s a reason why coaches like Jose don’t trust young players. Can you imagine the pressure he’s under in that situation.
I have no idea if he’ll make it at United long term, but I’m definitely not stupid enough to suggest he won’t off the back of that.
That's rich, as you are the one directly attacking a person because of an opinion about a football player on a football forum.
I cant imagine it. Ajax wants their own players and not loaned players. PSV and Feyenoord might loan players but i dont think Feyenoord would want Chong after he left them.Dutch media saying that Ajax are interested in hiring him next season
That's the biggest positive to take away.He didn't hide. Love his attitude. Big talent.
Good post.Yeah I’d say close control wise he can exceed Rashford and I’ve watched games of him at youth level and he can obviously weave in and out of players.
Just saying at this moment in time, from the cameos and games I’ve seen of Gomes versus what I’ve seen of Chong - Gomes to me looks like he’s more ready for first team football - that time when Jose gave him his debut he looked excellent and has never been given a shot since.
Greenwood is obviously coming from an injury and is a unknown entity at this level but his youth performances have shown a range of skill which for me has surpassed what I’ve seen from Chong (who for me needs to add a touch more variety to his game).
Anyone writing Chong off is just being stupid - my point is merely to say we don’t have much minutes to offer young lads at this stage of the season so we have to be very selective as to who is worthy of getting those minutes and I see Gomes/Greenwood as more deserving of those in this moment in time. No doubt in training Chong must be killing it as he seems ahead of these guys at the moment.
He also played 2 terrible passes that invited PSG onto us and they could have scored.He was defensively confident and prevented Verratti's charge in the box cleanly, then there was that slide tackle on Di Maria where he scared the shit out of him.
Definitely helped in keeping the score within the hope of making it through.
He did played another game in league or domestic cup not long ago. Can't remember. But he is definitely not ready yet.Not ready for Champions League Quarter finals?
You clearly have an agenda and made a bit of a twat of yourself. Nothing to do with post count.Are you really resorting to bullying people with a lower post count?
Aye, definitely raw player and that shouldn't be a surprise to any of us. Even to this day Rashford making silly mistakes and losing ball in the easiest manner. Every player goes through the learning curve, no exceptions.He also played 2 terrible passes that invited PSG onto us and they could have scored.
I just don't see it with Chong, of course I hope he proves me wrong but he is way too clumsy to be a top player.
Let's keep it civil shall we? There are a thousand opinions on redcafe each week that player X isn't good enough for United. You do it yourself. So post your counterargument if you don't agree with an opinion. Previously these mostly include "he only played a limited time" and "he played out of position", so we agree he played a bad game, but disagree about what it means. Your opinion is that is doesn't say much, mine that it showed he was out of his depth and not good enough, but hope to be proven wrong. That's all, so why the drama. Now we have to wait and see how Chong's career develops to see which opinion was right, at which point the entire argument will already be long forgotten.You clearly have an agenda and made a bit of a twat of yourself. Nothing to do with post count.
You've judged a player (and written him off) on a frantic 15 minute display away to PSG for feck sake.
You said that a 15 minute cameo away to PSG was 'career defining' you should agree that is absolute nonsense.Let's keep it civil shall we? There are a thousand opinions on redcafe each week that player X isn't good enough for United. You do it yourself. So post your counterargument if you don't agree with an opinion. Previously these mostly include "he only played a limited time" and "he played out of position", so we agree he played a bad game, but disagree about what it means. Your opinion is that is doesn't say much, mine that it showed he was out of his depth and not good enough, but hope to be proven wrong. That's all, so why the drama. Now we have to wait and see how Chong's career develops to see which opinion was right, at which point the entire argument will already be long forgotten.
I'll begin the slating.I'm probably going to get slated for this but I'm gonna stick my neck out and say I don't think he'll make it at United. I know it's too early to be sure and I can't say I am, but he seems to seriously lack intelligence while on the ball. His speed will only get him so far.
Hopefully someone quotes this one day with a row of laughing emojis.
Again, I hope I'm wrong. But in the times I've seen him play, he excels when he has acres of space to run into. While not impossible, will be difficult in Prem. Yes, I agree football intelligence does get built up with experience. But there should be atleast some already there now. Sure, not as much as a 27/28 year old, nowhere near. But he looks liked her dribble into a brick wall before realising he's probably overdone it.I'll begin the slating.
Just why exactly? How many games have you seen him live? Do you know that he's not even 20 years old and footballing intelligence is built up with experience?
Why do I see more and more people on this forum pass out extreme judgements on your youth players even before they get a decent run of games in the first team?