The bad (typically gun related) things happening in America thread

[AkaAkuma]

Lots of pathetic men in America fantasise about east Asian women because they think they're servile and delicate. This gimp maybe got rejected by one and couldn't handle it?

Bit of a nasty stereotype that shouldnt be aired.

 

[FireballXL5]

Gun control anyone?

 

[Mike Smalling]

He hates Chinese people but I'll bet the women he killed weren't from China.

At least four were from South Korea, according to CNN. Christ.

 

[calodo2003]

The Guardian says it's an "anti-suicide smock." It can't be used to make a noose, evidently.

Saw that it was called a ‘white killers matter’ vest, worn fashionably by the likes of Kyle Rittenhouse & Dylann Roof in the past (Roof looks quite like this murderer sans the pubic hair on his face).

 

[calodo2003]

Horrible.

Does Georgia still administer the death penalty?

Yep.

 

[calodo2003]

He hates Chinese people but I'll bet the women he killed weren't from China.


Yes.

Apparently four of the deceased were South Korean.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Saw that it was called a ‘white killers matter’ vest, worn fashionably by the likes of Kyle Rittenhouse & Dylann Roof in the past (Roof looks quite like this murderer sans the pubic hair on his face).

What's the deal with that? I’ve heard the phrase neck beards before but didn’t realise it was such a literal description. Is that a fashion statement? Who are they copying?

 

[calodo2003]

My first thought too. Killing Chinese people because of coronavirus is stupid beyond belief. Killing someone because they look similar to Chinese people is a whole other level...

Mere semantics to racists.

 

[calodo2003]

Gun control anyone?

Blasphemy. It’s a god-given right after all.

 

[Mike Smalling]

The irony of the suspect driving a Hyundai.

 

[Solius]

Another fecking idiot who fell for a giant man child’s dangerous rhetoric. RIP to the victims. All too common these days.

 

[Ish]

RIP to the victims.

 

[Santos J]

Potentially, but probably doubtful. It seemed opportunistic as it’s not easy to go from Acworth to Atlanta in rush hour traffic. There are hundreds of parlors north of town in the suburbs, why would he fight intense traffic? Easier to just stay north of town & continue the rampage. The two midtown parlors are very near to the interstate (my ex-fiancée was chef at a restaurant around the corner from there, the exit is very close by) & it seems that the shooter was heading south to begin with. The first location seemed planned, the second & third were opportunistic. He was then caught in central Georgia, over a hundred miles south of Atlanta.

Aaaaand, the social media starts coming out...

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The Facebook post isn't real

 

[Cloud7]

Sigh. RIP to the victims.

Nothing signals a return to normalcy quite like a mass shooting in America, unfortunately.

 

[calodo2003]

The Facebook post isn't real

No? If so I will remove.

 

[Wolverine]

Massive presumption with regards to motive coming out but right wing conspiracy theorism in terms of how deranged it is and its steady suppler of mass shooters like this is terrifying. I know there's a bit of a pushback by big tech to do a few things about it but its already spread way too far for this.

Our culture is preoccupied at present by culture-cancelling left wing twitter mobs but this al-Awlaki level of propaganda - albeit towards different things - which has so much reach with so many you wonder how many more of his types are out there and armed.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Massive presumption with regards to motive coming out but right wing conspiracy theorism in terms of how deranged it is and its steady suppler of mass shooters like this is terrifying. I know there's a bit of a pushback by big tech to do a few things about it but its already spread way too far for this.

Our culture is preoccupied at present by culture-cancelling left wing twitter mobs but this al-Awlaki level of propaganda - albeit towards different things - which has so much reach with so many you wonder how many more of his types are out there and armed.

The only slightly reassuring thing is that this seems to be a fairly US-centric phenomenon. With the NZ shooting an exception. And there was that one shit-head who ran some people over outside a mosque in London (I think?).

Really all points towards sensible gun control laws being the most effective way to keep a lid on the madness.

EDIT: Breivik too. Can’t believe I forgot about that turd.

 

[calodo2003]

Massive presumption with regards to motive coming out but right wing conspiracy theorism in terms of how deranged it is and its steady suppler of mass shooters like this is terrifying. I know there's a bit of a pushback by big tech to do a few things about it but its already spread way too far for this.

Our culture is preoccupied at present by culture-cancelling left wing twitter mobs but this al-Awlaki level of propaganda - albeit towards different things - which has so much reach with so many you wonder how many more of his types are out there and armed.

Parler is quite the cesspool right now. A lot of ‘out of my cold dead hands,’ ‘my god-given right’ & ‘Asians (not just Chinese) deserve this & more.’

 

[calodo2003]

The only slightly reassuring thing is that this seems to be a fairly US-centric phenomenon. With the NZ shooting an exception. And there was that one shit-head who ran some people over outside a mosque in London (I think?).

Really all points towards sensible gun control laws being the most effective way to keep a lid on the madness.

If it didn’t happen after Sandy Hook, it won’t happen for a long while.

And nothing of substance happened after Sandy Hook. Or Pulse. Or Santa Fe. Or Parkland. Or El Paso. Or Aurora. Or Vegas. Or Sutherland Springs. Or San Bernardino. Or the Navy Yard. Or Pittsburgh. Or Virginia Beach.

It’s equal parts maddening & sickening.

 

[Rob]

Gun control anyone?

Of course not. How would the good guy with a gun arm himself then?

 

[Zlatattack]

This is just exhausting to read. it's like all over the world society is slowly, bit by bit, losing ground to fanatics of various hue.

 

[TwoSheds]

Bit of a nasty stereotype that shouldnt be aired.

What, about insecure American men?

 

[Rado_N]

Sigh. RIP to the victims.

Nothing signals a return to normalcy quite like a mass shooting in America, unfortunately.

This is the 94th mass shooting in America in 2021.

That is not a typo.

 

[Wolverine]

The only slightly reassuring thing is that this seems to be a fairly US-centric phenomenon. With the NZ shooting an exception. And there was that one shit-head who ran some people over outside a mosque in London (I think?).

Really all points towards sensible gun control laws being the most effective way to keep a lid on the madness.

Yeah Darren Osbourne was the name who ran the van into somebody at Finsbury park.
There are manifestations of it that can be fatal though outside of the US - Jo Cox murder, there was the neo-nazi who wanted to murder labour MP Rosie Cooper with a machete.

MI5 report I think came out saying 30% of "major" terrorist attacks they are foiling are inspired by right wing ideology. A lot of referrals as well to PREVENT for youngsters suspected of right wing radicalism. Now there has been rightly pushback against ISIS/islamist ideology, you won't get Anjum Choudhary, Abu Hamza type of preachers anymore but its been a lot trickier tackling right wing ideology.

Because part of it is sort of mainstream and you don't want to infringe on free speech either.

I don't know how legitimate my worries are, part of it I'll be honest is just concerns by how many upvotes I see some batshit crazy things get on facebook groups. Agreed on the gun control/gun culture part especially in terms of preventing mass-shooter type events inspired by such things but the effect of en-masse propagation. Without wanting to seem like I'm endorsing thought-policing, belief in extremist conspiracy theory -based far right ideology unchecked I think will result in societal consequences outside of just terrorist events even though its more difficult to quantify.

 

[villain]

RIP to all victims to all involved.
And solidarity to anybody who's been a victim of any anti-Asian hate

 

[Maagge]

Gun control anyone?

Don't you dare politicise the tragic shooting of several Asian Americans in a country where the former president vilified Asians during his term because of a virus originating in China which he himself failed to mitigate the spread of!

 

[The Corinthian]

RIP to the victims.

Really tragic news. The rhetoric spouted by the man child former president is somewhat to blame.

 

[calodo2003]

Don't you dare politicise the tragic shooting of several Asian Americans in a country where the former president vilified Asians during his term because of a virus originating in China which he himself failed to mitigate the spread of!

It’s video games’ fault, anyway.

 

[FrankDrebin]

How depressing, how American.
RIP to the victims.

 

[Adisa]

If it didn’t happen after Sandy Hook, it won’t happen for a long while.

And nothing of substance happened after Sandy Hook. Or Pulse. Or Santa Fe. Or Parkland. Or El Paso. Or Aurora.

It’s equal parts maddening & sickening.

Gun sales get a boost after massacres. America has an extreme fetish with guns.

 

[FrankDrebin]

If it didn’t happen after Sandy Hook, it won’t happen for a long while.

And nothing of substance happened after Sandy Hook. Or Pulse. Or Santa Fe. Or Parkland. Or El Paso. Or Aurora.

It’s equal parts maddening & sickening.

And what happened ? Gun sales rocketed and conspiracy theorists ,such as Jones, became more mainstream and influential.

 

[do.ob]

The only slightly reassuring thing is that this seems to be a fairly US-centric phenomenon. With the NZ shooting an exception. And there was that one shit-head who ran some people over outside a mosque in London (I think?).

Really all points towards sensible gun control laws being the most effective way to keep a lid on the madness.

EDIT: Breivik too. Can’t believe I forgot about that turd.

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-synagogue-attacker-sentenced-to-life-in-prison/a-56004932

https://www.dw.com/en/mass-shooting-in-hanau-grief-and-rage-persist-one-year-on/a-56612160

America invites these people into the main stream and happily hands them guns, but it's certainly spilling over the pond and it's dangerous to believe this isn't our problem as well.

 

[calodo2003]

And what happened ? Gun sales rocketed and conspiracy theorists ,such as Jones, became more mainstream and influential.

It’s baffling, especially taking into account public sentiment on gun control immediately after Sandy Hook, yet basically the opposite happened.

 

[The Corinthian]

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-synagogue-attacker-sentenced-to-life-in-prison/a-56004932

https://www.dw.com/en/mass-shooting-in-hanau-grief-and-rage-persist-one-year-on/a-56612160

America invites these people into the main stream and happily hands them guns, but it's certainly spilling over the pond and it's dangerous to believe this isn't our problem as well.

Yea, I don't know how to term it. Right winged terrorist? Angry white male? Whatever you want to call it is a massive problem for the Western world.

https://news.sky.com/story/right-wi...ays-uks-top-cop-in-counter-terrorism-12135071

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/terrorism-arrests-uk-white-ethnic-b1812288.html

This is the situation in the UK.

 

[Adcuth]

At least four were from South Korea, according to CNN. Christ.

Shows how fecking stupid and uneducated he is.

 

[Penna]

Shows how fecking stupid and uneducated he is.

Of course, he probably knows nothing of the world outside the USA (or even his own state).

 

[FrankDrebin]

Or even out of his own head.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

Another terrorist radicalised by the American system. What a backwards nation they have built.

 

[Synco]

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-synagogue-attacker-sentenced-to-life-in-prison/a-56004932

https://www.dw.com/en/mass-shooting-in-hanau-grief-and-rage-persist-one-year-on/a-56612160

America invites these people into the main stream and happily hands them guns, but it's certainly spilling over the pond and it's dangerous to believe this isn't our problem as well.

True in principle, but 'spilling over the pond' may give a wrong idea. Whatever inspiration some murderers recently took from US Nazis/incels, it's part of a steady stream of deadly neo-Nazi terrorism in Germany since the early 90s.

 

[groovyalbert]

When racism is apparent in pretty much every country in the world, what could it possibly be that means these incidents only regularly occur in the USA...