The bad (typically gun related) things happening in America thread

[OleBoiii]

Pretty random, but I follow a volleyball youtuber(Asian man) who comments on a volleyball anime that I like(Haikyuu). His content is pretty good!

Anyway, the other day before one of his videos he dedicated several minutes to talk about all the horrendous attacks on Asians in the US over the last year or so. A lot of the incidents aren't really covered in the news and the incidents that are covered are typically not given much attention. It's been an ongoing problem since the covid outbreak. Brutal attacks where gangs of teenagers attack elderly Asians, sometimes resulting in their death. It's heart-breaking stuff.

This is the worst attack so far, though

 

[Green_Red]

Is this is the first mass shooting where there has been international victims? Hopefully that puts some pressure on this administration to finally do something about this. And hopefully we see a similar response to this as we seen with George Floyd's murder.

 

[calodo2003]

Is this is the first mass shooting where there has been international victims? Hopefully that puts some pressure on this administration to finally do something about this. And hopefully we see a similar response to this as we seen with George Floyd's murder.

There were quite a few Mexican nationals killed in the El Paso shooting. That was an avowed anti-Latino hate crime.

 

[The Firestarter]

Is this is the first mass shooting where there has been international victims? Hopefully that puts some pressure on this administration to finally do something about this. And hopefully we see a similar response to this as we seen with George Floyd's murder.

No administration can do anything about this. Not in a federal system.

 

[do.ob]

True in principle, but 'spilling over the pond' may give a wrong idea. Whatever inspiration some murderers recently took from US Nazis/incels, it's part of a steady stream of deadly neo-Nazi terrorism in Germany since the early 90s.

It's true, racism isn't imported, but the nature of these attacks seems to be inspired by American incel culture.

 

[Shane88]

Another terrorist radicalised by the American system. What a backwards nation they have built.

He's not a terrorist, he's a "deeply troubled young man."

Gotta be a certain colour on the Dulux colour chart to qualify as a terrorist.

 

[WI_Red]

If it didn’t happen after Sandy Hook, it won’t happen for a long while.

And nothing of substance happened after Sandy Hook. Or Pulse. Or Santa Fe. Or Parkland. Or El Paso. Or Aurora. Or Vegas. Or Sutherland Springs. Or San Bernardino. Or the Navy Yard. Or Pittsburgh. Or Virginia Beach.

It’s equal parts maddening & sickening.

For me it was when nothing happened after the guy shot up the Republican congressional softball practice and they all came out and affirmed they were even MORE pro 2A after. Especially Scalise who almost died.

between that and 1/6 it is definitely a fact that those tools put power over their own safety, so why the he’ll would a bunch of kids getting murdered have any influence on their policy?

 

[sport2793]

When racism is apparent in pretty much every country in the world, what could it possibly be that means these incidents only regularly occur in the USA...

Access to guns obviously...

 

[Eyepopper]

I've been wondering what the story was with all the anti Asian stuff bubbling away in America, without giving to too much thought to be honest.

As it goes when seeking to understand events in the US, the best route to the answer is generally to ask yourself "what would the dumbest reason possible be?", usually you wont land that far from the mark.

 

[calodo2003]

I've been wondering what the story was with all the anti Asian stuff bubbling away in America, without giving to too much thought to be honest.

As it goes when seeking to understand events in the US, the best route to the answer is generally to ask yourself "what would the dumbest reason possible be?", usually you wont land that far from the mark.

Over 150% rise in hate crimes v. AsA here in the past twelve months, the spike started in March. It was almost like clockwork. Only a matter of time before a ‘thoughts & prayers’ incident occurred against them.

 

[calodo2003]

What a fecking imbecile...

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[groovyalbert]

Access to guns obviously...

You may be onto something there

 

[Adisa]

What a fecking imbecile...

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Doesn't even make any sense.

 

[langster]

What a fecking imbecile...

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I think you were being polite calling him an imbecile. You must be armed!

 

[Rob]

What a fecking imbecile...

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Took a look at his timeline. Think I've been there before and his thoughts on everything ticks all the boxes on my "Patriotic, Trump voting American" bingo card.

 

[langster]

Apparently according to a report I just heard on the news, the terrorist was a member of The Crabapple Baptist Church. The church have since been removing and deleting videos they had posted, many depiticting femanism as being a satanic force. They have also made their website private now too.

Police are looking in to the connection.

 

[calodo2003]

Apparently according to a report I just heard on the news, the terrorist was a member of The Crabapple Baptist Church. The church have since been removing and deleting videos they had posted, many depiticting femanism as being a satanic force. They have also made their website private now too.

Police are looking in to the connection.

Yep, just saw that. Seems weird for a church to go behind a ‘member login’ screen & start scrubbing its media.

Could easily be another Westboro.

 

[Rado_N]

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Stupid doesn’t come close to describing this guy.

 

[calodo2003]

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Stupid doesn’t come close to describing this guy.

Does he not get that the site is satire?

 

[Rado_N]

Does he not get that the site is satire?

He doesn’t get much of anything from the look of it.

 

[Pexbo]

What better way to stick it to the Chinese government than killing Americans on American soil who probably have some sort of ancestry in the east. That’s one war won thanks to a literal neck beard.

 

[calodo2003]

He doesn’t get much of anything from the look of it.

I didn’t know if I was being duped by his 4D satire trump of something satirical or if he vapidly thought he stumbled upon a gem & wanted to get it out to the world. I think it’s more the latter.

 

[calodo2003]

This could be interesting...

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[The Corinthian]

Who is Kevin Sorbo? Is there a reason his tweets are being shared in relation to this mass shooting? (Or is he just a pro-gun nutjob?)

 

[JPRouve]

What better way to stick it to the Chinese government than killing Americans on American soil who probably have some sort of ancestry in the east. That’s one war won thanks to a literal neck beard.

And I wonder how many of these asian looking americans ancestors have immigrated in the US more than a century ago. In particular chinese-americans who have been key to the development of west coast states in the XIV/early XX centurIes.

 

[calodo2003]

Who is Kevin Sorbo? Is there a reason his tweets are being shared in relation to this mass shooting? (Or is he just a pro-gun nutjob?)

D list actor. I posted it due to the timing as well as the sheer absurdity of his statement.

 

[JPRouve]

Who is Kevin Sorbo? Is there a reason his tweets are being shared in relation to this mass shooting? (Or is he just a pro-gun nutjob?)

You heathen, you don't know Hercules?

 

[RoyH1]

Who is Kevin Sorbo? Is there a reason his tweets are being shared in relation to this mass shooting? (Or is he just a pro-gun nutjob?)

A mediocre actor who had his 15 minutes of fame playing Hercules in a TV series in the 90's. Why he's quoted in the context of this thread I don't know.

 

[The Corinthian]

D list actor. I posted it due to the timing as well as the sheer absurdity.

Oh got you, was just wondering as a few other posters were sharing it too. Very poor taste from him in the timing.

You heathen, you don't know Hercules?

I just googled him and he does look familiar! Although, I never really watched the show growing up.

 

[horsechoker]

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I think you were being polite calling him an imbecile. You must be armed!

Why do mediocre actors become the biggest dickheads?

 

[Green_Red]

He's not a terrorist, he's a "deeply troubled young man."

Gotta be a certain colour on the Dulux colour chart to qualify as a terrorist.

yea good one! Terrorist is a word that was first used in 1790s to describe revolutionaries during the French revolution. I hear Irish Republican dissidents referred to as terrorists all the time. Guess what, they're all white! Well played though...

 

[Solius]

Does he not get that the site is satire?

It's basically a right-wing and worse version of The Onion. Elon Musk finds it hilarious so that tells you all you need to know.

 

[Green_Red]

There were quite a few Mexican nationals killed in the El Paso shooting. That was an avowed anti-Latino hate crime.

I didn't know about that. What year?

No administration can do anything about this. Not in a federal system.

That's a pity. Surely the federal government can enact an amendment to the 2nd amendment though?

 

[JPRouve]

Why do mediocre actors become the biggest dickheads?

It's the other way around being dickheads is why they are actors, you can't be a dickhead 24/7, you need to fake normalcy from time to time.

 

[The Firestarter]

I didn't know about that. What year?


That's a pity. Surely the federal government can enact an amendment to the 2nd amendment though?

No they can't. Even if they got the senate votes, the states need to ratify.

 

[calodo2003]

I didn't know about that. What year?


That's a pity. Surely the federal government can enact an amendment to the 2nd amendment though?

2019, I believe. Maybe late 2018.

 

[langster]

This could be interesting...

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That sounds like it could possibly mean there is more validity to the story of it being an amti woman and satanic belief due to the church he belongs to rather than an attack on Asians specifically.

Not that that makes it any better of course.

 

[calodo2003]

That sounds like it could possibly mean there is more validity to the story of it being an amti woman and satanic belief due to the church he belongs to rather than an attack on Asians specifically.

Not that that makes it any better of course.

It certainly might.

It will be interesting to see the spin from many regardless the motive.

 

[Martial'sEmergingSmile]

Terrible.

I read recently that Atlanta is one of the biggest hubs in America for sex trafficking - with a lot of those trafficked being forced to work in massage parlours like this.

Also...given that all three shootings were at massage parlours, and the people who were killed or injured that we know about so far are spread across various races (6 asian women, 2 white women, 1 white man, 1 hispanic man) - as well as the detective implying that the motive wasn't racial - I wouldn't be surprised if the media jumped the gun big time in spreading their initial theory. The vast majority of women forced to work in places like this are unfortunately Asian, so on a numbers basis it stands to sense.

Seems more likely to be a religious nut or incel who targeted sex workers.

 

[calodo2003]

Terrible.

I read recently that Atlanta is one of the biggest hubs in America for sex trafficking - with a lot of those trafficked being forced to work in massage parlours like this.

Also...given that all three shootings were at massage parlours, and the victims we know about so far are spread across various races (4 asian women, 2 white women, 1 white man, 1 hispanic man according to reports) - as well as the detective implying that the motive wasn't racial - I wouldn't be surprised if the media jumped the gun big time in spreading their initial theory. The vast majority of women forced to work in places like this are unfortunately Asian, so on a numbers basis it stands to sense.

Seems more likely to be a religious nut or incel who targeted sex workers.

It’s also being reported that it is six AsA women & only one man, but we also haven’t had any official pressers yet so there’s still a bit of subjectivity. Sadly, you’re right, the gender of the victims probably had something to do with this as well.