Might be wrong, but I think what he's asking is whether your drafted and DoF appointed players are up for grabs in the auction, as in: people can bid for these players.
And the answer to that is presumably no.
The Double Draft
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
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And the answer to that is presumably no.
I believe Downcast thinks that we'll be bidding for the players that were picked in the snake format beforehand, which is surely not true, right? We are bidding for an unpicked players.
Saw the 2m thing but I thought that was a bid step and not an initial amount.
Absolutely. So, we can only bid for players not picked in the 1st stage, which makes sense.
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Can one of you give me a simplified version of how the bidding process works ?
12:00 DavidG bids 2 mil for Kuyt
14:30 Joga bids 25 mil for Beara
16:00 Downcast outbids DavidG 4 mil for Kuyt
2:00 DavidG bids 15 mil for Kuyt
2:30 Beara joins the team Joga for 25 mil
6:00 Invictus bids 123 mil for Kuyt
18:00 Kuyt goes to the team Invictus for 123 mil
19:47 Invictus is found dead in a hot tub
Anyone around to take my pick? Won't be on for couple of hours
Thank youReceived
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Ofc, you can't bid on players in others teams.
Though this gives me some thoughts on sneaky manipulating of managers
Btw who's in the evil draft committee for this one or are you going solo?Ofc, you can't bid on players in others teams.
Though this gives me some thoughts on sneaky manipulating of managers
Can always PM me if you will not be online for picking...
Just me for this. And not enough evil for my liking.
@Edgar Allan Pillow
Hold on a fecking minute here then. We've swapped 3(?) players now based on people complaining about the quality or their ability in a set up. Including one manager who nominated a player, ended up receiving him, then got to switch him for someone else? Feck kind of draft is this?
We have a player who we're forced to start, and as much as I love him, he's known as a "super sub" and that's his reputation. It was even said as such the last draft he appeared in. If people are throwing toys out of their pram over their alleged slight with their nominations, handing out a player who is basically recognized as being only effective off the bench seems a bit shit.
Maybe @Pat_Mustard feels differently, but considering the moaning that's already gone on, I don't think it's an unfair point
Hold on a fecking minute here then. We've swapped 3(?) players now based on people complaining about the quality or their ability in a set up. Including one manager who nominated a player, ended up receiving him, then got to switch him for someone else? Feck kind of draft is this?
We have a player who we're forced to start, and as much as I love him, he's known as a "super sub" and that's his reputation. It was even said as such the last draft he appeared in. If people are throwing toys out of their pram over their alleged slight with their nominations, handing out a player who is basically recognized as being only effective off the bench seems a bit shit.
Maybe @Pat_Mustard feels differently, but considering the moaning that's already gone on, I don't think it's an unfair point
Mazhar13 - 1. M Le Tissier 2. Gento
Joga bonito - 1. Carrick 2. Breitner
Cal? - 1. M Scholl 2. Desailly
harms - 1. Éder Assis 2. Luis Suárez Miramontes
RedTiger/Marty - 1. A di Livio 2. K-H. Schnellinger
Tuppet - 1. B Schneider 2. Gullit
P-Nut - 1. Ince 2. Batistuta
Chesterlestreet - 1. T. Motta 2. L. Thuram
DavidG - 1. Petit. 2. Hugo Sanchez
Sjor - 1. Camoranesi 2. Schweinsteiger
Invictus - 1. O Hargreaves 2. Redondo
Enigma - 1. Ze Roberto
Raees - 1. D Baggio
Skizzo/Pat - 1. Solskjaer
ctp - 1. Ginola
Downcast - 1. Wes Brown
Solskjaer scored the most famous goal in the clubs history . It's probably worth a vote or two .@Edgar Allan Pillow
Hold on a fecking minute here then. We've swapped 3(?) players now based on people complaining about the quality or their ability in a set up. Including one manager who nominated a player, ended up receiving him, then got to switch him for someone else? Feck kind of draft is this?
We have a player who we're forced to start, and as much as I love him, he's known as a "super sub" and that's his reputation. It was even said as such the last draft he appeared in. If people are throwing toys out of their pram over their alleged slight with their nominations, handing out a player who is basically recognized as being only effective off the bench seems a bit shit.
Maybe @Pat_Mustard feels differently, but considering the moaning that's already gone on, I don't think it's an unfair point
Kuyt on the other hand ....
Mazhar13 - 1. M Le Tissier 2. Gento
Joga bonito - 1. Carrick 2. Breitner
Cal? - 1. M Scholl 2. Desailly
harms - 1. Éder Assis 2. Luis Suárez Miramontes
RedTiger/Marty - 1. A di Livio 2. K-H. Schnellinger
Tuppet - 1. B Schneider 2. Gullit
P-Nut - 1. Ince 2. Batistuta
Chesterlestreet - 1. T. Motta 2. L. Thuram
DavidG - 1. Petit. 2. Hugo Sanchez
Sjor - 1. Camoranesi 2. Schweinsteiger
Invictus - 1. O Hargreaves 2. Redondo
Enigma - 1. Ze Roberto 2. Rivaldo
Raees - 1. D Baggio
Skizzo/Pat - 1. Solskjaer
ctp - 1. Ginola
Downcast - 1. Wes Brown
@Raees
Joga bonito - 1. Carrick 2. Breitner
Cal? - 1. M Scholl 2. Desailly
harms - 1. Éder Assis 2. Luis Suárez Miramontes
RedTiger/Marty - 1. A di Livio 2. K-H. Schnellinger
Tuppet - 1. B Schneider 2. Gullit
P-Nut - 1. Ince 2. Batistuta
Chesterlestreet - 1. T. Motta 2. L. Thuram
DavidG - 1. Petit. 2. Hugo Sanchez
Sjor - 1. Camoranesi 2. Schweinsteiger
Invictus - 1. O Hargreaves 2. Redondo
Enigma - 1. Ze Roberto 2. Rivaldo
Raees - 1. D Baggio
Skizzo/Pat - 1. Solskjaer
ctp - 1. Ginola
Downcast - 1. Wes Brown
@Raees
I wasn't really expecting Redondo to last, but I was getting my hopes up
I will submit my player after you so you can leave me your pick if you have to move todayI wasn't really expecting Redondo to last, but I was getting my hopes up
@Edgar Allan Pillow
Hold on a fecking minute here then. We've swapped 3(?) players now based on people complaining about the quality or their ability in a set up. Including one manager who nominated a player, ended up receiving him, then got to switch him for someone else? Feck kind of draft is this?
We have a player who we're forced to start, and as much as I love him, he's known as a "super sub" and that's his reputation. It was even said as such the last draft he appeared in. If people are throwing toys out of their pram over their alleged slight with their nominations, handing out a player who is basically recognized as being only effective off the bench seems a bit shit.
Maybe @Pat_Mustard feels differently, but considering the moaning that's already gone on, I don't think it's an unfair point
Id be happy to swap Camoranesi for Solskjaer if you want, you get the better player but Ole is Ole, totally worth it
Was between Redondo and Schnellinger for usI wasn't really expecting Redondo to last, but I was getting my hopes up
Yeah, you'll get no argument from me. However, to make the Legacy picks 100% fair is difficult. And avoiding any level of moaning is impossible - people will moan regardless.@Edgar Allan Pillow
Hold on a fecking minute here then. We've swapped 3(?) players now based on people complaining about the quality or their ability in a set up. Including one manager who nominated a player, ended up receiving him, then got to switch him for someone else? Feck kind of draft is this?
We have a player who we're forced to start, and as much as I love him, he's known as a "super sub" and that's his reputation. It was even said as such the last draft he appeared in. If people are throwing toys out of their pram over their alleged slight with their nominations, handing out a player who is basically recognized as being only effective off the bench seems a bit shit.
Maybe @Pat_Mustard feels differently, but considering the moaning that's already gone on, I don't think it's an unfair point
As I said above, looking at the bigger picture there are four players you're simply handed here: And while you may get dealt a poorish hand in the Legacy round, you may very well end up with Beckenbauer and Maradona to make up for it.
As a general remark, what one could do when distributing Legacy players is to make sure there are no potentially controversial ones in the pool. Kuyt, for instance, is such a player - and he was rightly replaced. OGS is a possible case for the reason you mention. But I don't think the voters will insist on regarding him as a super-sub when they know bloody well that you have to start him - it's not a tactical move on your part, nor a result of your drafting skills, it's dumb luck and nothing else. I suppose there's a chance they'll simply ignore this, but then again you could say that voters ignoring premises and arguments is a general danger in these drafts - it could just as easily feck you over in a completely different setting.
Scored a hat-trick against United, just post the link at RAWK and they'll find a way to win yet another online poll
Watch all of solskjaers' finishes from the 99 season he strikes every single goal perfectly
It was? I don't think that many here will object to him starting, most remember how good he was, starter or sub
It would have been funnier having the DoFI pool as random so not position defined. That wayou you could end up with 3 cbs or 3 strikers and have to deal it. Obviously everyone wants to make the best possible team but having to deal with crap situations should definitely be part of a reality draft for me.
So you'd either have one of the greatest front 3, midfield or defence of all time . It's not really a bad situation .
Yeah but you could have already picked a striker then end up with another 3. Team would then be lacking in other areas.
Not asking for Solskjaer to be replaced, just pointing out the farcical aspect of it all as far as complaining about the player you received.
It's a reality draft, by definition, some managers will be at a disadvantage. Someone could lose all their best players through injury etc, and your opponent might not. If everyone is going to be complaining about it already, it's just gonna make the whole process rather tedious.
Anyway, I've said my piece
It's a reality draft, by definition, some managers will be at a disadvantage. Someone could lose all their best players through injury etc, and your opponent might not. If everyone is going to be complaining about it already, it's just gonna make the whole process rather tedious.
Anyway, I've said my piece
I agree in principal, although signing up for a draft of this nature you should expect a "raw deal". If you're going to moan straight away, why bother playing at all? youcould very easily end up getting distributed the "weakest" players from each pool, then lose your best players in a Tbola round, how much complaining will there be then?
It's not on moaning about legacy per se, but in all fairness Kuyt and Malouda are significantly weaker than OGS or Ginola or Ze Roberto. I balanced the pool myself and replaced most of the outliers, these two were the last of the lot.I agree in principal, although signing up for a draft of this nature you should expect a "raw deal". If you're going to moan straight away, why bother playing at all? youcould very easily end up getting distributed the "weakest" players from each pool, then lose your best players in a Tbola round, how much complaining will there be then?
As such if we play Reality again, I'd do away with DoFI nominations and finalize the pool myself. More balanced that way.
Well, I suppose it's like this: If there's any chance of perceiving something as unfair, people will moan.I agree in principal, although signing up for a draft of this nature you should expect a "raw deal". If you're going to moan straight away, why bother playing at all? youcould very easily end up getting distributed the "weakest" players from each pool, then lose your best players in a Tbola round, how much complaining will there be then?
It's what Edgar touches on above: When the managers do the nominations themselves, there's a chance of getting unbalanced pools (at least that's what many will claim). And unbalanced pools ain't part of the deal – rotten luck, yes, but not unbalanced pools.
And there you have it. Having said that, somebody will always moan – even if they get served a raw deal they signed up for themselves. But, again, unbalanced pools is different – that isn't, strictly speaking, what you sign up for – not in this case anyway.
The pools as they stand now look fine, though – there's one player I would absolutely hate getting, but that's about it.
Who's that if you don't mind me asking?
Luis Figo
Mazhar13 - 1. M Le Tissier 2. Gento
Joga bonito - 1. Carrick 2. Breitner
Cal? - 1. M Scholl 2. Desailly
harms - 1. Éder Assis 2. Luis Suárez Miramontes
RedTiger/Marty - 1. A di Livio 2. K-H. Schnellinger
Tuppet - 1. B Schneider 2. Gullit
P-Nut - 1. Ince 2. Batistuta
Chesterlestreet - 1. T. Motta 2. L. Thuram
DavidG - 1. Petit. 2. Hugo Sanchez
Sjor - 1. Camoranesi 2. Schweinsteiger
Invictus - 1. O Hargreaves 2. Redondo
Enigma - 1. Ze Roberto 2. Rivaldo
Raees - 1. D Baggio 2. Figo
Skizzo/Pat - 1. Solskjaer 2.
ctp - 1. Ginola 2.
Downcast - 1. Wes Brown 2.
@Skizzo @Pat_Mustard
Joga bonito - 1. Carrick 2. Breitner
Cal? - 1. M Scholl 2. Desailly
harms - 1. Éder Assis 2. Luis Suárez Miramontes
RedTiger/Marty - 1. A di Livio 2. K-H. Schnellinger
Tuppet - 1. B Schneider 2. Gullit
P-Nut - 1. Ince 2. Batistuta
Chesterlestreet - 1. T. Motta 2. L. Thuram
DavidG - 1. Petit. 2. Hugo Sanchez
Sjor - 1. Camoranesi 2. Schweinsteiger
Invictus - 1. O Hargreaves 2. Redondo
Enigma - 1. Ze Roberto 2. Rivaldo
Raees - 1. D Baggio 2. Figo
Skizzo/Pat - 1. Solskjaer 2.
ctp - 1. Ginola 2.
Downcast - 1. Wes Brown 2.
@Skizzo @Pat_Mustard
Mazhar - 1. M Le Tissier 2. Gento
Joga bonito - 1. Carrick 2. Breitner
Cal? - 1. M Scholl 2. Desailly
harms - 1. Éder Assis 2. Luis Suárez Miramontes
RedTiger/Marty - 1. A di Livio 2. K-H. Schnellinger
Tuppet - 1. B Schneider 2. Gullit
P-Nut - 1. Ince 2. Batistuta
Chesterlestreet - 1. T. Motta 2. L. Thuram
DavidG - 1. Petit. 2. Hugo Sanchez
Sjor - 1. Camoranesi 2. Schweinsteiger
Invictus - 1. O Hargreaves 2. Redondo
Enigma - 1. Ze Roberto 2. Rivaldo
Raees - 1. D Baggio 2. Figo
Skizzo/Pat - 1. Solskjaer
ctp - 1. Ginola
Downcast - 1. Wes Brown
@Skizzo @Pat_Mustard
Joga bonito - 1. Carrick 2. Breitner
Cal? - 1. M Scholl 2. Desailly
harms - 1. Éder Assis 2. Luis Suárez Miramontes
RedTiger/Marty - 1. A di Livio 2. K-H. Schnellinger
Tuppet - 1. B Schneider 2. Gullit
P-Nut - 1. Ince 2. Batistuta
Chesterlestreet - 1. T. Motta 2. L. Thuram
DavidG - 1. Petit. 2. Hugo Sanchez
Sjor - 1. Camoranesi 2. Schweinsteiger
Invictus - 1. O Hargreaves 2. Redondo
Enigma - 1. Ze Roberto 2. Rivaldo
Raees - 1. D Baggio 2. Figo
Skizzo/Pat - 1. Solskjaer
ctp - 1. Ginola
Downcast - 1. Wes Brown
@Skizzo @Pat_Mustard
Not saying. If I end up with him, I'll have to pretend he's great
Will be a little bit. Gotta do some research and the Mustard isn't around. I'll pick ASAP
No worries guessing as soon you've done yours Downcast will be ready with his so we should get our DoFI defenders tonight either way.