devilish
Juventus fan who used to support United
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Would you kindly list their experience and successes in the very role they had been hired in? ThanksIf that's all the info you can handle then sure.
Would you kindly list their experience and successes in the very role they had been hired in? ThanksIf that's all the info you can handle then sure.
What do you suggest they do differently?Having been part of a couple of dysfunctional organizations in my life, I think Murtough will have his work cut out for him. In my experience, the whole culture of such organizations would be about ass-covering, layers of bureaucracy, empire building, political backstabbing, front line workers not being empowered to do what's right etc.
You know it when you see it, but I haven't seen anyone successfully fix one of these organizations. Outside consultants come in, they enrich themselves for a bit, VCs come in, dump some money, try to get some of their guys in etc.
I'd compare it to creatures of the sea feeding on the carcass of a whale.
How do people ever get a chance at promotion in your eyes? If they have to have shed loads of experience priorWould you kindly list their experience and successes in the very role they had been hired in? Thanks
It says quite clearly about the experience with the PL Elite Development team and also there are very likely multiple aspects about the careers of all of these people that you, nor I have any knowledge about but we both know you'll say that's nothing and refer to him as a fitness coach again so let's just leave it shall we.Would you kindly list their experience and successes in the very role they had been hired in? Thanks
What is the PL Elite development BS all about really. What do they do? What trophies they won, what signings did they made and what experience do they have at club level? What is his actually experience as a DOF? Is it the same Fletcher has a technical director or Murtough as a DOF?It says quite clearly about the experience with the PL Elite Development team and also there are very likely multiple aspects about the careers of all of these people that you, nor I have any knowledge about but we both know you'll say that's nothing and refer to him as a fitness coach again so let's just leave it shall we.
I have nothing against giving people a chance when the structure is in place and working well and we've got experienced people who can tutor the new guys to greatness. We know we don't have that. What we've got is a mess with most of the people getting on the job training. You'd expect United would learn something after allowing the failed Cardiff manager to throw 400m+ in the bin.How do people ever get a chance at promotion in your eyes? If they have to have shed loads of experience prior
Why are you asking me?What is the PL Elite development BS all about really. What do they do? What trophies they won and what signings did they made? What is his actually experience as a DOF? Is it the same Fletcher has a technical director or Murtough as a DOF?
Members of the same Gentleman's Club.What is the PL Elite development BS all about really.
Like Pep and Tixi?Members of the same Gentleman's Club.
Because you seem to defend this appointment.Why are you asking me?
Yip, sharing cigars and ladies is the ultimate bond.Like Pep and Tixi?
Should we compare what these guys had won with that of lets say Fletcher, O'boyle, Ole and Murtough?Like Pep and Tixi?
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I don’t know, shall we?Should we compare what these guys had won with that of lets say Fletcher, O'boyle, Ole and Murtough?
I merely stated that you were taking a very surface level look at his career and focusing on a Liverpool stint instead of a 5 year post at the PL which you've admitted you do not know anything about either positive or negative.Because you seem to defend this appointment.
Here is some information about his role with Liverpool
https://trainingground.guru/articles/exclusive-liverpools-oboyle-joins-premier-league
He acted up as head of fitness and conditioning for four months last year following the sudden departure of Ryland Morgans. However, manager Jurgen Klopp opted to bring in Andreas Kommayer from Bayern Munich to take the job on a permanent basis in July, meaning O’Boyle had to drop back down to his old position.
Lets start from the latter. Nothing.I don’t know, shall we?
Why you asking me then?Lets start from the latter. Nothing.
I mentioned the Liverpool stint because that's the apex of his career. The guy was head of fitness and conditioning for four months up until Klopp sent him back to his place following the appointment of Andreas Kommayer from Bayern Munich. The rest is pretty underwhelming. He was Under-21 physical performance coach, a head of elite performance for the English Premier league whatever that means, he was Head of Sports Science at Coventry City and the FA Under-21 physical performance coach. Ah I almost forgot he was also Head of Performance at British Ski and Snowboard as well. Serious business indeedI merely stated that you were taking a very surface level look at his career and focusing on a Liverpool stint instead of a 5 year post at the PL which you've admitted you do not know anything about either positive or negative.
Why don't you find that out too then?I mentioned the Liverpool stint because that's the apex of his career. The guy was head of fitness and conditioning for four months up until Klopp sent him back to his place following the appointment of Andreas Kommayer from Bayern Munich. The rest is pretty underwhelming. He was Under-21 physical performance coach, a head of elite performance for the English Premier league whatever that means, he was Head of Sports Science at Coventry City and the FA Under-21 physical performance coach. Ah I almost forgot he was also Head of Performance at British Ski and Snowboard as well.
https://www.premierleague.com/youth/elite-performanceWhy don't you find that out too then?
Standard of English players has definitely gone up. We've made a wonderful appointment here. Devilish will be delighted.
Sound like serious business! I wonder why the likes of Pep and Klopp having joined the project yet
Are you drunk?Sound like serious business! I wonder why the likes of Pep and Klopp having joined the project yet
Did they? I remember an England national team with Scholes, Beckham, Rio and Shearer in it. Now they have Grealish, Rashford, Maguire and Kane in it.Standard of English players has definitely gone up. We've made a wonderful appointment here. Devilish will be delighted.
Made a euro final and the youth teams have been winning competitions so…Standard of English players has definitely gone up. We've made a wonderful appointment here. Devilish will be delighted.
The upswing appears to have started during Murtough’s stint. The best partnership we’ve seen since Ferdinand and VidicStandard of English players has definitely gone up. We've made a wonderful appointment here. Devilish will be delighted.
And they've reached finals.Did they? I remember an England national team with Scholes, Beckham, Rio and Shearer in it. Now they have Grealish, Rashford, Maguire and Kane in it.
We're gonna win the treble first season he's here. Madness.The upswing appears to have started during Murtough’s stint. The best partnership we’ve seen since Ferdinand and Vidic
You mean the one England got hammered at home by a national team who couldn't even make it to the WC?Made a euro final and the youth teams have been winning competitions so…
Devilish's Spanish equivalent was very mad about it at the time.Txiki and Pep were given the roles of Sporting director and head coach at Barcelona due to them being former players. Txiki was made Sporting director at Barcelona when he was a commentator for Catalunya TV.
did they win the manager Ole's participation cup for that?And they've reached finals.
This is fun. Can you spin the 99 treble into a bad thing? I'm intrigued.You mean the one England got hammered at home by a national team who couldn't even make it to the WC?
Devilish's Spanish equivalent was very mad about it at the time.
20 years of this drivel.Are you drunk?
Devilish's Spanish equivalent was very mad about it at the time.
I imagine this is what it was like watching Alastair Campbell at workThis is fun. Can you spin the 99 treble into a bad thing? I'm intrigued.
Got hammered 1-1? You're talking a lot of nonsense.You mean the one England got hammered at home by a national team who couldn't even make it to the WC?