This I want to know the answer to. Mourinho has one way or another fueled this into a toxic situation, giving his **** a reason to slaughter one of our players who it now turns out was going through some personal issues.
The Missing Martial thread
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I spent my working life proving and disproving. I am certainly not trying to here.
I think it is absolutely clear the boy wants away and has little or no respect for his manager. Get rid of him.
Simples.
Parental leave shouldn't be something to be aired publicly. Somehow it found a way to the headline of fake news network.
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Yep. We need to wait to hear more on this. Surely he must've been told there were complications?
I am struggling to believe this is the caf.
Are you saying you believe Mourinho to be the offender in all of this?
Yep, me too. Anyway, something doesn't add up with this. But we don't know exactly what happened. So, I am going to wait and see before pointing fingers on anyone.
Really?
Why do the sensible thing instead of getting your panties in a twist and jumping to all sorts of conclusions like everyone else?
Why surely? Coz it's Mourinho?
Our P/R teams needs an overhaul. The club should issue a statement saying all is well and no fine will be made. How Jose and the club have made a big drama about a guy Jose doesn't want is beyond me. Why make out like Martial is causing problems but expect big money for him when we sell him? All potential buyers now fully know how desperate we are to sell and will make some low offers. We used to bee seen as compassionate club.
Nonsense, surley someone in his entourage would have the wits about them to contact his employer to explain why he was AWOL? He was in the right to stay with his girlfriend, of course, but pick up the phone!
Not everyone on here are fanboys mate.
There are only two outcomes here:
a) Mourinho is a dick
b) Martial is a dick
Both of which make United look like a fecking joke of a club. This summer can feck right off. Sick and tired of the season already
a) Mourinho is a dick
b) Martial is a dick
Both of which make United look like a fecking joke of a club. This summer can feck right off. Sick and tired of the season already
This is a discussion forum and panty twisting is quite common. Discussion is quite normal and to have differing opinions, encouraged.
Edit: Incidentally, I am a huge fan of Martial on the pitch. I have no time, not one bit, for somebody that shows contempt for the Club.
It would be pretty extraordinary if Mourinho knew that Martial's girlfriend was unwell following childbirth but still expected him to be with the team. It would also be pretty extraordinary if Martial's girlfriend was actually fine and Martial has just lied about her being unwell as an excuse.
Whereas some form of miscommunication (either between Martial & Mourinho/United or between Mourinho/United & the media) would seem rather less extraordinary to me.
I would certainly hope (and assume) that the latter is the case.
It's possible to take Martial at his word (like any self respecting, non-sociopathic person would do) without lambasting Mourinho and jumping to wild and - in some cases - sickening conclusions based on football tribalism and agendas.
Like, be a normal bloody human.
Like, be a normal bloody human.
He meant he should be here but he is not because he’s on leave. Not that “he should have come back but the miserable Cnut has gone awol” His clarification afterwards often gets missed for the obvious reasons. People still don’t get that the English nuances and grammar while good are not their.
And it's the club's fault? Which is it?
Are you working a public relation job? I saw your post about what club should do so I am curious. How many clubs? Do clubs always inform everyone about players relationship. who married who, how many children players have,when their bd are... and send message support the player's family when without player's consent?
Jose is the worst - would be so 50/50 about his methods to convince his wife that he hasn't cheated.
Martial is clearly in the 'other' group vs us - can't imagine Lukaku getting treated that way publicly.
Martial is clearly in the 'other' group vs us - can't imagine Lukaku getting treated that way publicly.
Why should he have to?
The fact he’s needed to go on Twitter to explain is a joke. Even if this was a purely a case of him wanting to go, just keep it private. I think Jose’s ambiguous statements did nothing but fuel the nonsense.
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Quality control
My opinion is that your's was an arsehole post.
The problem is, somebody has been fuelling his apparent want to get away, probably his agent. He then goes AWOL, according to his manager's (I agree ambiguous) comments.
It is difficult to believe his heart lies at the Club.
Club could’ve just explained this away by saying Martial has extended leave for personal reasons at the presser the other night.
Arsehole
They should've said what I said "We don't know when he will return but we respect his family's privacy" or whatever buzzwords they could think of, not "Martial should be here with the team" because it implied there was something
Check the past few pages of this thread. The consensus were " Where is Martial" " Is he AWOL" " Martial is being unprofessional" "Anyone knows what going?".
Go on explain to me why the standard two weeks of parental leave in UK should be a subject to talk about. Who stirred up the pot in the first place? The club and Mourinho should've handled it better.
Is that your ad hominem tactic? If you can't add anything value to the subject. Just leave
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The issue I find is that it's become a forum of tribalism and fanboy groups, it doesn't seem to be a lot about Manchester United FC now but rather big groups of Mourinho fanboys that drink in every word he's said, or the opposite who hate his guts and want him out. Martial FC boys, and get Martial out of my club boys. There's no common ground for the collective good of the club.
Are there no Mods in here any more? I thought language like this was prohibited.
I hate keyboard warriors. :-)
I'm a long way from being a Mourinho hater, but of course he is the offender in this particular situation. Either he knew about the issues and made those comments anyway, in which case I (and all right thinking people) would take huge ethical issue with him, or (what I'm hoping) he didn't know about them. In that case it's not as bad, but he still shouldn't be making those comments about a player who has just had his baby born a matter of days beforehand. All kinds of things can happen in those few days.
Either way, Martial has now felt the need to tell the entire world something that only he, his family and their doctors really needed to know, simply to get the public off his back for something that every single one of them would have expected for themselves in the same situation.
I have been trying to do that but it's a lost battle, we apparently need a villain.
Think it would be fair to say Martial has fallen further behind Rashford in the pecking order now. Best thing we can do is grant Martial his wish to leave and get as much for him while we still can. He really is not worth all the fuss and fighting.
Probably because he didn't have the leave. He went to ground.
Why couldnt he have informed the club instead of going awol?
The club's handling of this has been fecking amatuer.
To the club refusing to take questions and Mourinho having to pipe up with "I don't know". People complain about the media coverage, but Jose does himself no favours whatsoever. Hes a smart man and he knows what he's doing.
Its also fecking ridiculous people in here think Martial is fabricating this.
Clubs a mess. As is the fanbase.
The atmosphere and vibe of being a United fan in this day and age outright stinks.
To the club refusing to take questions and Mourinho having to pipe up with "I don't know". People complain about the media coverage, but Jose does himself no favours whatsoever. Hes a smart man and he knows what he's doing.
Its also fecking ridiculous people in here think Martial is fabricating this.
Clubs a mess. As is the fanbase.
The atmosphere and vibe of being a United fan in this day and age outright stinks.
Jose said he did. Stop digging
Well it's good to know he hasn't gone AWOL. Needs to get back and work his butt off.
Don't know why Mourinho couldn't just say, Martial is dealing with a family issue and will be back but he can't say for certain when that might be as it depends on circumstances outside of everyone's hands? Or something to that effect.
I don't watch his press conferences so I hope he didn't give the impression that Martial just upped and left? That would be really bad...
In any case, I hope he keeps his head down and work his ass off.
Don't know why Mourinho couldn't just say, Martial is dealing with a family issue and will be back but he can't say for certain when that might be as it depends on circumstances outside of everyone's hands? Or something to that effect.
I don't watch his press conferences so I hope he didn't give the impression that Martial just upped and left? That would be really bad...
In any case, I hope he keeps his head down and work his ass off.
What?
We already have @villain . We don't need another!
Maybe he did. Maybe he didn’t.
It’s not half as (sickening) fun, though.
What is it with fans and premature opinions and premature conclusions based on feck all 
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?Do you think his desire to leave is a premature conclusion?What is it with fans and premature opinions and premature conclusions based on feck all
There you are!!! Yes, Jose is the worst.
And if anything, Lukaku deserves more respect and recognition from the fans for what he has done for the club in the short period. Moreover, his attitude and willingness to help the team is examplary. Just saying..