when are you going to learn that these people say what they need to say at any given time?? There's chat that chelsea are going to pull out of the anelka deal...my arse. bluff bluff and more counter bluff. fergie, days before selling becks: "bloody no chance", wenger days before signing reyes for 17mil! "im very happy with the squad, no need to buy etc etc zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
The OFF TOPIC Berbatov thread (used to be 'Berbatov Wants Move')
- Thread starter Alex
- Start date
sorry lads but berbatov is currently much better than tevez. There's little point me elaborating, one plays for utd, one doesnt so we all know who the winner will beBased on what exactly?
Sure both are skilled and I would grant you Berbs a better touch and a finishers mentality, but Tevez's heart, work rate, and unselfish attitude make this statement hard to prove to just downright silly. I mean surely there is at least a 1% chance.
. I say zero chance because its so blatantly obviousHe's not worth the money they want. This is blatently obvious.
You're getting annoyed because the chance of us signing Berba this month is getting lesser and that's understandable.
Sure sometimes people say one thing and do another, but I still find manutd.com and Sky Sports more credible than some random poster cockneyHammer for me is.
Im not annoyed and wont be until he moves elsewhere. Now or the summer who cares as long as we get him. If we're serious about dominating in europe i.e. winning a couple of champions leagues in the next 5 years id say berbatov is pretty essential. Just cant think of a better fit really. His attributes are exactly what we need and are the traditional hallmarks of a utd striker if you look through the years.
So after 45 pages of discussion and 1781 posts are we getting him or not ?
The crux of the matter
sorry lads but berbatov is currently much better than tevez. There's little point me elaborating, one plays for utd, one doesnt so we all know who the winner will be
Gus you can't see the obvious when rules are posted to back it up. Why do you act as if your opionion should be accepted as a quantifiable fact?
For example I value heart, attitude, and effort very high. Tevez has those in spades. Berbatov on the other hand can be justifiably questioned in those areas. Now I have no problem if in your opinion Berbatov is better striker/forward/whatever (he is amazing gifted I grant you), but acting as if your evaluation is the only yardstick for comparison and is beyond reproach seems a bit much to me.
Now by all means if you care to share your thoughts on what exactly we are comparing and why you value one player over another, then great that is what internet forums are for... ie discussion. If you want to make more declarative statements of opinion with no discussion... well I am pretty sure you are used to those results by now
.That's some good Berbatov compilation made by a Polish Chelsea fan.
http://www.sendspace.pl/file/tLyBGVDE/ (64 MB)
(after this page loads click "Pobierz plik" then the downloading should begin)
http://www.sendspace.pl/file/tLyBGVDE/ (64 MB)
(after this page loads click "Pobierz plik" then the downloading should begin)
Let's make this clear, for the last time!Address your bullshit criticisms to the rest of the Caf or feck off!!!
Jog on "transfer" boy...
If I come across current racism when posting I'll criticise it, unless others have already dealt with it adequately.
If someone (eg. you) claims they've never made a racist remark when they have then I'll dig up the past to prove it.
Of your list of remarks that I 'must' deal with only one was definitely racist - and that must have been June 2006 or earlier. It was criticised at the time. Dealt with, done, over.
I'll 'address... the rest of the cafe' if and when appropriate - not otherwise.
You claimed not to be a racist when you'd posted:
By your own criteria (this thread) that's offensive to people of 3 nations (and misspelled).DA2 said:
By objective criteria it's also racist - since you deny it and accuse others of being guilty you're a hypocrite as well.
You first asked me not to correct people - now you want me to criticise everyone because I rightly criticised something you said - make your mind up!
My policy for criticising people is given above - I will not change it on your demand.
Just to make my position on you clear:
DA2 is a proven bigot and a hypocrite.
He can't/won't notice differences when they are pointed out - he can't/won't address the racist remarks he made - he can't/won't answer the arguments - all he does is issue bizarre demands and insults.
All the details are in this thread already, therefore:
It is not worth making any more points you never read - it would be, like yourself, a waste of bandwidth.
Any future responses on this issue will be brief and contain (like the majority of your posts) no argument - they will have evidence though.
Garry Birtles
Terry Gibson
Peter Davenport
Mark Robins
Alan Brazil
Peter Barnes
and maybe
Dimitar Berbatov
I do wonder what'd happen if some of the conversations on here was done face to face insted of from the comfort of a keyboard
Probably go a little more like uhm uh nnnh uuuuuh
Probably go a little more like uhm uh nnnh uuuuuh
We still don't know - welcome to the transfer forum!
You've heard DA2 improvising then?I do wonder what'd happen if some of the conversations on here was done face to face insted of from the comfort of a keyboard
Probably go a little more like uhm uh nnnh uuuuuh
Where is Berbathov ?
Berba has moved threads.
He is coming back!
For the record
Tevez >>>>>>>> Berbatov
There is no point questioning this as we all know Tevez is a superior player.
Tevez >>>>>>>> Berbatov
There is no point questioning this as we all know Tevez is a superior player.
You are so funny that i dont know whether to cry or shoot you.
Glad to see this went the way of the Tevez thread.
It's not meant as a 'funny post', just the truth.
I think secretly we all are....
Dont think that this is funny.
They are just not compareable. Tevez plays a completely different part in a team than berbatov does. Berbatov surely is the better target man, he probably is faster and technically more gifted, but Tevez is much stronger, can hold the ball better and has a great attitude, which berbatov lacks.
Spoken like your age. Congratulations
I think Tevez is better, GH thinks Berbatov is better. There is no difference from my post and his 'there is 0 chance Tevez is better'. If you had any common sense you would have seen I was responding to that post with a slightly sarcastic tone.
I'm not getting into your bun fight but Tevez and Berbatov are very different players and I think it would be difficult to say who is better. Both are excellent but in very different ways.
Tevez is a grafter and battler where as Berbatov uses his brain more.
Tevez is a grafter and battler where as Berbatov uses his brain more.
Spurs offered a deal to Lyon for Fred
Link ?
Sky Sports claim that Lyon have accepted bids from three clubs, believed to be Portsmouth, PSG and Tottenham, and that Fred can go to which ever he chooses.
Portsmouth won't match Tottenham's offer probably and they are worse club overally, Paris are in big shit after last round and I can't see Fred getting much delivery there, so I think Tottenham are strong favourites there.
Do you think he is Defoe's replacement?
Defoe has come out and said he doesn't want to leave. I don't know what's Ramos' policy either, I remember him having quite a few strikers at Sevilla - Kanoute, Fabiano, Kerzhakov, Kepa - at the same time and rotating them, so I wouldn't be surprised if he kept them all, although that would be taking it too far. Fred is different type of player too.
If Fred comes, someone has to leave to keep the balance - Defoe is the most likely one because he isn't wanted there anymore. Unfortunately the club has no right to make him go, if he wants to stay Ramos will have to respect that.
Wait until Aston Villa come with a bid and see Defoe's reaction. We cannot really guess what his move will be.
One thing is sure - Fred is in position to work out a great deal for himself somewhere with three rich clubs in for his signature.
So we await Fred's decision - and then the possible outcome.
I'd be shocked if Fred doesn't end up at Spurs
Bent Fred Lee King