It is feeling the same now as when Dortmund top the table for a week and Bayern decide actually they've changed their mind and are going to win the next fifteen games in a row.
The Premier League is Crap
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You're clearly in denial if you think he isn't. They will win titles without him, but not as much as they're doing with him and certainly not in such a dominating form.
The PL is of course money driven. The challenge is who a) has the most b) spends it best. If you look at spending in the 1990’s, Manchester United were dominating as they were the richest and most famous club in the world. It allowed them to get the best players, pay amongst the highest wages and reputationally were untouchable.
Times have changed, but the issues themselves have not. Everyone has more money now because of TV and the globalisation of the PL, but there is still an enormous gulf in income/expenditure between say, Manchester City and Fulham. Or Manchester United and Brentford. Or Newcastle and Leicester.
The haves and have-nots is nothing new, it’s just the figures are higher and the entities have changed.
When Manchester United get their takeover, it will all look different again, Manchester United will become title contenders again, and the PL won’t be “shit” any more from fans of your club’s perspective.
Times have changed, but the issues themselves have not. Everyone has more money now because of TV and the globalisation of the PL, but there is still an enormous gulf in income/expenditure between say, Manchester City and Fulham. Or Manchester United and Brentford. Or Newcastle and Leicester.
The haves and have-nots is nothing new, it’s just the figures are higher and the entities have changed.
When Manchester United get their takeover, it will all look different again, Manchester United will become title contenders again, and the PL won’t be “shit” any more from fans of your club’s perspective.
Having played a game more. Granted it was in their hands but we all knew Arsenal's form would dip at some point.
My point was the shortcomings of City's rivals will always be highlighted rather than City doing something extraordinary (ie: putting a run together) which is taken for granted. Even in the seasons they pipped Liverpool on the final day, the coverage was all about Liverpool which irked City.
Until Pep leaves, the bar to win the league will continue to be set high.
2016-17 - 87 points after 36 games
2017-18 - 87 points after 33 games
2018-19 - 98 points after 38 games
2019-20 - 86 points after 31 games
2020-21 - 80 points after 35 games
2021-22 - 93 points after 38 games
2022-23 - 85 points (minimum) - provided Arsenal lose to Forest
It’s decent from position 2 to 20.
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League football is rarely the most entertaining - there’s a reason why the FA Cup caught the attention of the public as the biggest trophy for most of English football history. It’s a result of Sky and money pumped into it and hype that it’s considered more important than the FA Cup. That’s where the money is so you get full strength teams and high paid hyping.
And why the World Cup and Champions League are the most entertaining football. Knockout, anything can happen on the day. League football is a pure type of football, the best teams wins as there’s no fluking 38 matches. But the chances of it being a really exciting title race or several different winners every year are slim. How many really good title races have there been since Aguero in 2012? Probably just looking at the two City-Liverpool ones, that’s it. And some have been absolute processions.
And why the World Cup and Champions League are the most entertaining football. Knockout, anything can happen on the day. League football is a pure type of football, the best teams wins as there’s no fluking 38 matches. But the chances of it being a really exciting title race or several different winners every year are slim. How many really good title races have there been since Aguero in 2012? Probably just looking at the two City-Liverpool ones, that’s it. And some have been absolute processions.
Please do some research on club’s spending in the 90’s before posting shite.
This isn’t to say we didn’t spend.
In this time we won 4 leagues, 2 FA Cups.
Our spending did increase after 1998, but this was due to our success and coinciding with the globalisation of the premier league and Sky.
Needs Pep to leave for sure.
The problem with net spend is it doesn’t show the full picture.City’s net spend this season was the lowest in the league and one of the lowest over the last few years. This was made by them dropping 1Billion then able to sell them players down the line to fund other top players
Sure - but take it over a 7-8 year period like the above. How much is it?
I looked it up - Pep has spent over a billion
His net spend up until last summer is £661m. Which is ludicrous.
No teams in the CL semis. Tragic league.
Garbo league.
Outjerked by the farmers league and Real
I like it. I really like it. Overpaid players can now watch games from their chairs at home.
Farmers league.
Arsenal lose to the worst Bayern team of all time
City lose to a team with a few pensioners playing, third choice goalkeeper and no striker
Liverpool smashed to 6th placed Atalanta at home
West ham lose to a team that had never won a thing before the first leg.
What an awful league.
Arsenal lose to the worst Bayern team of all time
City lose to a team with a few pensioners playing, third choice goalkeeper and no striker
Liverpool smashed to 6th placed Atalanta at home
West ham lose to a team that had never won a thing before the first leg.
What an awful league.
English football is merde.
The real farmers league.
Need Chelsea and Liverpool back in this to regain some respect for the PL 
City - defending champions out in the quarter finals
Arsenal - out in the quarter finals with a whimper
Newcastle - finished bottom of their group
Man United - finished bottom of their group
Brighton - absolutely destroyed in R16 of the Europa League
Liverpool- currently 3-0 down in the EL quarter finals
West Ham - currently 2-0 down in the EL quarter finals
Safe to say it has not been a vintage year for 'The best league in the world' TM
Farmers league updated table :
1- Premier League
2- La Liga
3- Ligue 1
4- Serie A
5- Bundesliga
1- Premier League
2- La Liga
3- Ligue 1
4- Serie A
5- Bundesliga
But Sky Sports are always telling me it’s the best league in the world and never been better! 
The league is very poor this year.
Best in entertainment not qualityBut Sky Sports are always telling me it’s the best league in the world and never been better!
Love it.
It used to be the best. I used to watch any match , whoever was playing, and loved it but the last few years it's become more and more boring.
Skill is disappearing and just waiting for someone to make a mistake.
VAR is killing the game as well which isn't helping.
Skill is disappearing and just waiting for someone to make a mistake.
VAR is killing the game as well which isn't helping.
Between City, VAR, poor refereeing, incredibly poor and bias media coverage, it has become a bit of a bore.
At least I'm spared the Sounesses of this world with Canal+
Canal + is terrible too though
No surprise it’s fell off, The PL is nothing without a successful United.
I couldn't care less whether the Prem was the best league in the world or not. In many ways I wish it wasn't.
But for a while now it likely is, a poor knock out week is good for a laugh - but it's not indicative of a downward trend.
But for a while now it likely is, a poor knock out week is good for a laugh - but it's not indicative of a downward trend.
Get City relegated and gone for a few seasons and the league would at least be interesting. We would all be in the mix
I'd rather listen to Sinama-Pongolle and Dacourt, who are quite mild rather than Carragher, Neville, Keane, Redknapp and co
I still maintain despite all the money pumped in, it's never approached the relative dominance it had during 2007-2008.
Every single English team knocked out by another in the UCL. You can easily argue the 4 best teams in the world were the big 4 from the Premier League. A rebuttal that the traditional giants in Europe weren't at their best also holds true now.
Every single English team knocked out by another in the UCL. You can easily argue the 4 best teams in the world were the big 4 from the Premier League. A rebuttal that the traditional giants in Europe weren't at their best also holds true now.
Football was more fun then too. I loved counter attacking ping pong football games that were end to end rather than the methodical robot football that has slowly entered and taken over. It's why neutrals love teams like Luton coming up, they're a bit of a throwback to those days.
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Agreed. The methodical style of play that nearly every team is trying to play is boring AF. Give me free flowing attacking football, smashing crosses with bullet headers, and rockets from miles out galore. Those were the days
Definitely. It was quite refreshing hearing Schweinsteiger in his interview with the Overlap speaking fairly similarly and how Pep and his style has seeped into clubs in the respective leagues he's managed and has had a detrimental impact in terms of watchability.
Agreed. The methodical style of play that nearly every team is trying to play is boring AF. Give me free flowing attacking football, smashing crosses with bullet headers, and rockets from miles out galore. Those were the days
The league isn't crap... the games are actually quite entertaining, but at the same the final table is often very predictable.
Yeah agree because it's true. I used to watch so many games but really can't be bothered much these days. I do watch the mighty SPFL though
it's actually been interesting this season with some teams way outperforming their capability and some utterly failing. And not everyone tries to play the exact same way.The phrase "shit on a stick football" was coined in response to a Chelsea-Liverpool game from back then