Those fighters doing that are rarely if ever getting paid millions to do so. They are also atleast fighting boxers, even if they are poor ones. Jake Paul hasn't yet been in with a single boxer or striker. Add to that he seems to have a huge weight advantage on all of them.
I think it’s a bit bizarre to say that. Askren was a multiple organisation world champion and an Olympian.
Why is it bizarre?
I’ve just said mate. Askren is the pro here. He’s only 36. He could have easily gotten into shape. Or you know, learned how to box in his long career in MMA. If anything it’s Paul whom is taking the risk.
My issue is the weight difference. Someone mentioned 20lbs? This for me is dangerous and shouldn't be happening.
According to google they’re about the same height. 10kg difference can work both ways IMO. Personally I’d like to be 10KG lighter but still ‘my’ weight if possible. I don’t see a big problem with this to be honest.
Wow. That is a ridiculous arguement. I'm starting to think you are a Jake Paul fanboy.
Which part? Nah I’m not his fan no. I’ve never boxed inside a ring but guys move weight all the time. I mean it’s not the opponents fault that someone decides to be lard. I’d 100% of the time be 180 pounds than 190. 100 percent. I can retain my strength if I can get to that weight safely.
So you've not boxed but you know you'd rather weigh X? Guys move weight because they usually cut ALOT to get to lower weights. Askren was 10kg lighter and could have done with cutting more.
I’ve not boxed but that doesn’t mean I’ve not been in a serious, professional, combative environment before — I was. There is a balance. I’ll reiterate; I’d compete against a person my size whom is 10kg heavier. Be it boxing, Judo or just scrapping. Running.. doing anything. I’ll take 10kg off my weight (if it’s safe and appropriate) over than having 10kg on.
You watched that and it inspired you to want to fight?
Im sorry if I’m not making myself clear. I’m saying, if there are fans of Jake Paul, whom, want to take up combat sports after this, then great. That is inspiration. He has a huge following - without a doubt. Stating otherwise would be daft. It would be safe to assume that some of his following would develop something for combat sports- which is a positive.You watched that and it inspired you to want to fight?
Not to be rude but if Judo is your combative experience that really isn't much to go on.
This isn't a discussion about whether you would add or takeaway 10kg from your weight. What a ridiculous point.
This is the fact that JP weighs 10KG more(in top shape) even without BA being in great shape, he was overweight and still 10KG less. That is a huge advantage and probably shouldn't have been sanctioned, especially as one is a god awful striker.
I'm not a Royal Marine Commando and Iv'e never passed out but I've done 'death by bottom field' once so I would consider myself one of the fit guys and know what I'm talking about. Am I the fittest? of course not. Was I even the fittest in my troop -- nowhere near. Do I know what it's like to carry extra 10 kilos over 45 mins.. fecking right! I've seen guys far stronger than me just drop. literally just pass out - white cold and fecking resuscitated and off the went to sick bay. For reference:You watched that and it inspired you to want to fight?
Not to be rude but if Judo is your combative experience that really isn't much to go on.
This isn't a discussion about whether you would add or takeaway 10kg from your weight. What a ridiculous point.
This is the fact that JP weighs 10KG more(in top shape) even without BA being in great shape, he was overweight and still 10KG less. That is a huge advantage and probably shouldn't have been sanctioned, especially as one is a god awful striker.
Judo is very limited combative experience, especially where weight is concerned too. That's not to say it isn't a valuable combat sport.
I'm not sure how you cannot see Judo as combative experience seeing as its an olympic sport? Honestly, master of sport in Judo would be a lot less appetising than an amateur Olympic boxer imo. Of course it's an opinion but I'd rather wrestles a guy than get rag dolled and get elbowed in the face. But that's just me.
My comparison is appalling? You realise that Khabib is a world Sambo champion, which is very close to Judo. It seems to me that you know absolutely nothing in regards so what else can I offer.
Thats Askren though. He always looked like that. Whats embarrassing is that he couldn't fecking box his way out of paper bag. Embarrassing. Now, you'll have absolute feckwits slamming mma, and calling for McGregor. Good grief, as much as I stopped respecting the man, he would fecking destroy Jake Paul etc.
Lot of women would kill for that hourglass shape.
At least Mighty Mouse is taking knees to the head without a fuss and keeping the good fight.
You keep saying JP weighed 10kg more. What’s your source for this? At the weigh in, he weighed half a pound more than Askren... admittedly because Askren was fat and out of shape...
I was wondering@Dirty Schwein Sorry bud not sure why I tagged you. I think I agreed that Askren is a fecking disgrace. A shambles. And yet im getting called a Jake Paul fan boy.
You watched that and it inspired you to want to fight?
Not to be rude but if Judo is your combative experience that really isn't much to go on.
This isn't a discussion about whether you would add or takeaway 10kg from your weight. What a ridiculous point.
This is the fact that JP weighs 10KG more(in top shape) even without BA being in great shape, he was overweight and still 10KG less. That is a huge advantage and probably shouldn't have been sanctioned, especially as one is a god awful striker.
It's nuts to see someone who has spent his entire life competing look like that
Lot of women would kill for that hourglass shape.
The man is an animal, as much as Im mad at him. Anyone that can go in to the octagon and make Robbie Lawler look like that, deserves credit. Imagine if he had any stand up -- he'd have been goat level.It's nuts to see someone who has spent his entire life competing look like that
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You're 100% right, the weight difference isn't the big issue, only that the difference is telling based on their skills.
Doesn't let me view it. Tell me the video title and I'll check it out.
It's a woman absolutely levelling a man with a judo throw.
That is the limitation of the sport which was entirely my point though. Even compared to Sambo, size(weight) is nowhere near as important, in that sense it may be more comparable to BJJ.
Don't really get what either of these have to do with anything? Not only that, these are debates that go on forever. You've picked two that give one side of the argument.
