Nice to see you back in the thread man! Looks like you’re having an amazing time. What was he up to nowadays? Still involved with the sport in a big way? Also, what did he think of boxing as it is now?
Brilliant. Tito was a great fighter from probably my favourite era of following the sport. Nice to hear he's such a good guy, too.
He owns property. But his lifestyle is simple. He is very involved with the church, helps people out, told me to stay in shape he hits the treadmill daily, does garden work and he visits friends and family. He’s still so beloved in Puerto Rico. Sometimes his wife has him go to the store, expecting him back in 30 mins and he’s gone three hours because he’s been talking to his fans, taking photos etc; truly a man of the people.
Love it
Was a good fight and Boris did end up troubling him.
Why is he a liar? It seems every boxer is a liar these days. It's a game, they're all full of shit. You should know this. Frank Warren was interviewed by IFLTV a couple of days ago and he provided pretty good evidence that this wasn't Fury ducking the fight or anything like that. He quoted Uysk's guys on talksport where he decided to phone in and speak to them live in air, and his guys were admitting that it wasn't Fury's fault etc.
I don't think Fury ever really fancied the fight for April once the ME money was off the table. The 70/30 UK purse grab wasn't even enough because he knew he could dwarf that amount even with 50/50 split in the ME, like Warren had originally suggested.
Won't know until he fights a live body. The two guys he's fought so far have been absolute jokes, both turned up to fold as soon as a punch even half-landed. Don't think we can say he has 'frightening power' based off that. Even Itauma looked embarrassed last night, shrugging his shoulders and saying 'how?' at the fact the guy couldn't (wouldn't) get back up.
Watch some of his amateur bouts against some of the World’s best and most experienced amateur heavy weight fighters. The guy was only 16-17 and was schooling and overpowering all in his wake. Frightening! In 2 years time this thread will mostly be about Moses Ituama…
I normally hate overhype of young fighters but I think this one may be worthy of it.
Yeah, there’s a bit of the young Mike Tyson about him isn’t there. He looks a lump, but he has incredible speed and slick footwork for such a big fella. And his power is scary.
I’m saying, in general, the guys a liar. Like when he said he didn’t care about money, and when he said he was gonna give all his Wilder purse to the homeless. When he said he’d only fight for free. When he said he ate Wild boat meat was the reason he was dirty, when he claimed he was depressed and the worst day of his life when he beat Klitschcko but fairly recently said it was the best day of his life. He’s said so much that he’s contradicting himself constantly.
Strikes me as probably a good take on it. I think it's a particular shame with someone like AJ who used to have genuine broad appeal and an interesting view on the world outside boxing as well as within, to see him chase immoral money that he doesn't need, talk as if money is his sole objective, and lack the drive to go down as a genuinely great fighter. Perhaps there's more to it than meets the eye e.g. brain injuries, fear etc, but that perverse faux hip hop Money Mayweather vibe he's got going on just sounds like a fragile masculinity that wasn't there in him as a young man. He's like inverse Lewis Hamilton personality wise.
The money makes a cynic out of most, I think. Don't know if they can be blamed because they are using a new resource against a system that has always looked to exploit fighters wherever it can and then discard them at the end of the process, sometimes with lifelong damage to their health; they want to be recompensed accordingly and are in pursuit of the biggest slice of the pie they can get.
I know what you're saying, but don't you think it just comes with the turf? Most of them talk crap for whatever reason, mind games maybe, whatever. Fury gets held to his word though when others don't, which is what bugs me. I have my favourite fighters that I want to see do well, and some I dislike, but the words they say leading up to fights just go in one ear and out the other.
I could get behind that. Anybody that gets bent out if shape at these guys chasing the best pay are hypocrites really. They're putting their lives on the line, of course they want as much money as possible. It's a short career for most. I don't even think Fury feels like he has much to prove with the opponents left out there, it probably takes a good pay day to get the juices flowing and get the focus he needs.
This, pretty much. Although I do think Fury knows this fight will happen barring a shock loss for either of them first, and he also knows that he will be building his legacy when the fight does happen. Why not get more money for the same fights and build a legacy? I'm sure he is confident in his ability to beat Usyk, so the next detail to consider is the money.
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I find it difficult to root for him in all honesty, lots of murmurings that hes an arsehole and billy big bollocks when the cameras arent around. One of the more overrated fighters in recent years too.
Well that's the thing, he didn't used to come across like that. He's gone down this sort of dirty money black hole and he genuinely used to come across as an interesting, thoughtful guy. Maybe he was always a cock, who knows, but he didn't seem that way. Everyone loses their way sometimes I suppose and as somebody said above, perhaps the money can make a cynic of anyone if they're not careful. I won't be holding my breath but would love a personality comeback, even if the boxing stays a bit average.
I think the comments above about Felix Trinidad show that it is possible to be a superstar, but stay humble. Can't be helping joshua that hes surrounded by uk boxing promoters, who are up there with the biggest scum anywhere in sports.
It seems that way sometimes but there's quite a few who travel the world providing valuable experience to up and coming fighters or guys like French Heavyweight Carlos Takam and Britain's Dereck Chisora who'll take on anyone if the money's there and give them a test.
Usyk is a warrior and will fight pretty much anyone as long as the opposite camp aren't taking the piss.
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Inoue is class in every sense of the word. My favourite fighter ever.
