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A lame duck Trump over four years would have been cataclysmic to the whole world.
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We're already seeing his quasi-fascist rhetoric and strategies inspire leaders in other countries, spawning a host of copycat politicians and setting worrying precedences in even the most stable of democracies. That's not even going into the damage he's already caused to the fight against climate change, alienating allies, and emboldening despots like Putin, while (contrary to his apologist's claims) threatening peaceful and diplomatic strides in regions such as the middle east and South America. Another four years would have frightening implications for the democratic world, nevermind the US.
 

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They're conveniently taking the moral high ground now that his presidency has all but reached its end. Where was this concern for the last four years, namely soon after the election?
Could have predicted this clockwork shift.
 

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Fixed.

We're already seeing his quasi-fascist rhetoric and strategies inspire leaders in other countries, spawning a host of copycat politicians and setting worrying precedences in even the most stable of democracies. That's not even going into the damage he's already caused to the fight against climate change, alienating allies, and emboldening despots like Putin, while (contrary to his apologist's claims) threatening peaceful and diplomatic strides in regions such as the middle east and South America. Another four years would have frightening implications for the democratic world, nevermind the US.
Yep. Perfect amend. We couldn’t hope to contain a lame duck Trump. We still might not.
 

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Wise move for him would be to pardon himself and his family and friends for any and all crimes and resign.
Has it been established that he has the power to preemptively pardon people incl. himself? That would be an insane amount of power to wield.
 

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Has it been established that he has the power to preemptively pardon people incl. himself? That would be an insane amount of power to wield.
He can for other people, never been tested by the courts for himself. However he could do the Nixon thing of resigning with the agreement that Pence would pardon him.

He should also leave the US, I think - sorry Scotland :lol:
 

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Has it been established that he has the power to preemptively pardon people incl. himself? That would be an insane amount of power to wield.
My take is the new administration's DOJ would not bother taking up such a case.
 

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Has it been established that he has the power to preemptively pardon people incl. himself? That would be an insane amount of power to wield.
Well, the will of the people can get stymied by a simple DOJ memo from decades ago.

There’s a current portion of the DOJ that undoubtedly believes Trump could legally preemptively pardon himself.

All it may take is a simple memo to be written.
 

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Hasn't his twitter ban ended now...

Must be killing him to know he cant tweet till he deletes his messages (implicitly if not explicitly accepting they were wrong) ... and yes despite democracy being in tatters, the deaths yesterday and the ongoing covid pandemic i suspect not being able to tweet is actually at the forefront of his thoughts
 

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Hasn't his twitter ban ended now...

Must be killing him to know he cant tweet till he deletes his messages (implicitly if not explicitly accepting they were wrong) ... and yes despite democracy being in tatters, the deaths yesterday and the ongoing covid pandemic i suspect not being able to tweet is actually at the forefront of his thoughts
This pissed me off when they restricted me for 12 hours after calling Trump an orange husk of a man, so I can't imagine how annoyed he must be :lol:
 

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Hasn't his twitter ban ended now...

Must be killing him to know he cant tweet till he deletes his messages (implicitly if not explicitly accepting they were wrong) ... and yes despite democracy being in tatters, the deaths yesterday and the ongoing covid pandemic i suspect not being able to tweet is actually at the forefront of his thoughts
Twitter had to have extended it. His last allowed tweet is from over 17 hours ago.

Trump over the last twelve-ish hours...

 

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I think twitter asked him to delete the tweets as a condition to not suspend his account permanently.
I thought it was delete them before he can tweet again (one the 12 h ban has expired)... but tweet anything like that again and he will be perma banned

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12 hour ban from when he deletes the posts



so might be a while before he can go on an ALL CAPS tweet rage
 

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I suppose they'll say 'I wasn't worried when it was all just rhetoric, but this is a new situation.' Politicians (and their staffers) seem to think there's this huge divide between words and action. Then they're all shocked when they're taken literally, or when people who don't have the power to talk big in Washington determine that action can be their only contribution to the conversation.
 

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Politicians (and their staffers) seem to think there's this huge divide between words and action.
I mean, politicians usually say a lot of shit they have no intention of doing to get elected.
 

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I mean, politicians usually say a lot of shit they have no intention of doing to get elected.
Yeah, I know - but I think this is not the exact same thing. It's 'just words' to them either way, but I think there is a difference between not enacting the health reform you promised and people attacking a building as a follow-up to your rhetoric. (Although arguably, the US has been hurt more over the decades by politicians wilfully misrepresenting socio-economic issues.)
 
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Yeah, I know - but I think this is not the exact same thing. It's 'just words' to them either, way but I think there is a difference between not enacting the health reform you promised and being attacking a building as a follow-up to your rhetoric. (Although arguably, the US has been hurt more over the decades by politicians wilfully misrepresenting socio-economic issues.)
I'm mostly being tongue in cheek to be honest.
 

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Carry on fighting guys...


I think its time for the lock him up chants...
See? Everything is going to turn out ok.
He can for other people, never been tested by the courts for himself. However he could do the Nixon thing of resigning with the agreement that Pence would pardon him.

He should also leave the US, I think - sorry Scotland :lol:
He's already been told he can feck off if he tries to come here. He wouldn't be able to handle the sweet smell of freedom* that we have, anyway.

*It's actually 80% freedom, 15% whisky fumes and 5% chip fat.
 

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See? Everything is going to turn out ok.

He's already been told he can feck off if he tries to come here. He wouldn't be able to handle the sweet smell of freedom* that we have, anyway.

*It's actually 80% freedom, 15% whisky fumes and 5% chip fat.
If we can negotiate the whiskey and chip fat percentages up a bit I might be tempted to pop over for a visit.
 

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If we can negotiate the whiskey and chip fat percentages up a bit I might be tempted to pop over for a visit.
:lol: nothing better than a visit to the Highlands in the middle of summer, the blistering sun on your back, the mountain paths, the stormy rain on your back, the tranquility, the scorching sun on your back, the cow flying overhead due to the second storm.

And that's before the first morning is over and you've barely gotten pished on local moonshine yet.
 

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:lol: nothing better than a visit to the Highlands in the middle of summer, the blistering sun on your back, the mountain paths, the stormy rain on your back, the tranquility, the scorching sun on your back, the cow flying overhead due to the second storm.

And that's before the first morning is over and you've barely gotten pished on local moonshine yet.
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:lol: nothing better than a visit to the Highlands in the middle of summer, the blistering sun on your back, the mountain paths, the stormy rain on your back, the tranquility, the scorching sun on your back, the cow flying overhead due to the second storm.

And that's before the first morning is over and you've barely gotten pished on local moonshine yet.
That actually sounds a fair bit like a drive I had from Dufftown to Edinburgh a few years back.
 

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The wife and I decided that our first post-COVID travel spot will be Scotland. She wants to go for the history, I'm in it for the whiskey. I will be soliciting recommendations.
Shouldnt you be going to Ireland instead , for the whisky? :angel:
 

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See? Everything is going to turn out ok.

He's already been told he can feck off if he tries to come here. He wouldn't be able to handle the sweet smell of freedom* that we have, anyway.

*It's actually 80% freedom, 15% whisky fumes and 5% chip fat.
When I last went to Glasgow it was at least 20% tobacco smoke. I got re-addicted to smoking from just walking around.
 

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I would pay to watch a live stream of his private rants at the moment.
 

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:lol: That was the sole reason we were there. We found a great little restaurant/pub with a tremendous selection of whisky.
:lol:
When I last went to Glasgow it was at least 20% tobacco smoke. I got re-addicted to smoking from just walking around.
Glasgow is completely different now. They even have a KayEffSee or whatever it's called.
The wife and I decided that our first post-COVID travel spot will be Scotland. She wants to go for the history, I'm in it for the whiskey. I will be soliciting recommendations.
https://www.scotch-whisky.org.uk/discover/distillery-map/

If you're lucky you can plan your route in a way that means you avoid any of the thousand or so shiteholes that exist everywhere on the map.
 

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I would pay to watch a live stream of his private rants at the moment.
It would be epic, especially if there are minions packing up shit around him while he is losing his shit. That would only trigger him more.
 
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