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Dawn’s less famous husband
I didnt even notice it. I was too busy being an owloneCool. I’m getting my second dose on Monday. Reckon karma’s gonna bite me in the arse for posting that picture of the man up pills!
I didnt even notice it. I was too busy being an owloneCool. I’m getting my second dose on Monday. Reckon karma’s gonna bite me in the arse for posting that picture of the man up pills!
They will get billed by the hospital if they need treating. Same as any other illness.so what about anti vaxxers that get Covid and have no insurance?
I was thinking more for those people that experience that kind of general rundown, fatigue feeling the first day after the jab. It might be that if you're feeling rough, you're better off sitting it out for a day or so rather than running it offThanks for the replies all. Am I reading it right that young men should be advised to avoid hard exercise for a couple of weeks after vaccination? It will be a tricky one to get right if so, needing to warn them of a risk, but not putting them off vaccination, and not putting off those in other age/sex categories just looking for an anti-vax excuse anyway.
No, I would totally agree with this. Had a quick look at the autopsy report as well and it doesn't say what the author is saying in the slightest. Weird take with an agenda!It’s hysterical bullshit written by lay-people with an obvious anti-vax agenda who blatantly don’t understand the post mortem findings.
I also think they’re lying about talking to “one Infectious Disease specialist” or that’s a self appointed title by someone who isn’t medically qualified.
I had a read of the autopsy report and would interpret it as follows:
A very old, frail man with multiple quite severe underlying illnesses was hospitalised shortly after being vaccinated. He died from a severe pneumonia and renal failure which the pathologist thinks was bacterial in origin (covid is a viral infection, not bacterial).
While he was very sick in hospital he tested positive for covid and post mortem testing revealed the virus had spread throughout his body. We know vaccines aren’t 100% effective so a case report of someone testing positive for covid after being vaccinated isn’t remotely surprising or startling. However it didn’t cause any of the tissue/organ damage you might expect to see from a severe covid infection. So it’s possible that the vaccine was protecting him from developing a severe illness due to CoVid (although obviously couldn’t protect him against pneumonia from an unrelated, bacterial infection) We can’t be certain how well the vaccine protected him because he died just 48 hours after testing positive for covid so was only in the very early stages of covid when something else killed him.
Tagging in @Wolverine and @africanspur in case I’ve missed something important in the PM. Fairly confident I’ve got the main gist of it correct though.
tl;dr The article is blatant anti-vax agenda written by deceitful idiots. Please don’t share any further.
I didn't think you were that old?I just got vaccinated, the Janssen.
I'm not over 55!I didn't think you were that old?
Makes sense. The 6 week gap for Pfizer here is a pain, but understandable. I still have another week and a half to go until my second. Still I'll be fully covered days before my vacation so can't complain too much.I'm not over 55!
I had the option of Pfizer, Moderna orJanssen. I picked Janssen the second she told me that it was a single dose.
I didn't think you were but surprised you had the Janssen.I'm not over 55!
I had the option of Pfizer, Moderna orJanssen. I picked Janssen the second she told me that it was a single dose.
Yeah but I couldn't really get a second appointment close by without travelling a bit, so I decided to just leave it with the original. As I said, I'll be fully vaccinated before my holiday so I'm happy enough.I didn't think you were but surprised you had the Janssen.
@stu_1992 - they've reduced the gap again for Pfizer back to 4 weeks
Sounds like someone stole your identity. But they’re very unhealthy and you’ve taken their place in the queue for a vaccine. Karma’s a bitch.Just book for the first jab in two weeks time. Odd thing was the letter I received said they had tried to contract me before which I'm pretty isn't true and that my records show I'm at high risk of getting seriously unwell from Covid, which again I'm pretty sure thats not true.
I said to the nurse this morning hope that's it for this year anyway and she just said who knows.I've received a code this morning to download my digital "Green" certificate, which is actually just a QR code unless you also download the "let's make a little leaflet" version. It's valid for exactly 9 months from the date of the second jab.
I assume we'll all have had a booster by then ....
Surely for those who had their first jab back in January, there'll have to be a booster before the end of the year? I mean for the very old and very frail.I said to the nurse this morning hope that's it for this year anyway and she just said who knows.
I heard the booster program is set to start in the Autumn for the UK. The thinking is to get ahead of the winter wave they expect to come.Surely for those who had their first jab back in January, there'll have to be a booster before the end of the year? I mean for the very old and very frail.
Yes I was talking about myself there.Surely for those who had their first jab back in January, there'll have to be a booster before the end of the year? I mean for the very old and very frail.
You know how it is.I've received a code this morning to download my digital "Green" certificate, which is actually just a QR code unless you also download the "let's make a little leaflet" version. It's valid for exactly 9 months from the date of the second jab.
I assume we'll all have had a booster by then ....
You know how it is.
There's no Microsoft product out there that does not need an update.
2 days it took me to get to sore armHad my first does a few hours ago (Moderna), no side effects as of yet not even a sore arm.
Starting to get a sore arm now...2 days it took me to get to sore arm
I thought I was the cheese for the first couple of days...ooh look at me I have no side effects.... then bang!
I hope you don't get the same
Got it myself. Hope it doesn't get worseStarting to get a sore arm now...
Not surprised. Like what Hong Kong does towards Pfizer.Interesting article about the AZ vaccine includng a claim that Russia has been behind some of the vaccine misinformation spreading online in a bid to boost sales of their own vaccine.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...trials-and-tribulations-of-a-world-saving-jab
It’s a good summary of events. Although it’s fair to say that all the really meaningful damage was self-inflicted due to either errors in the way their data was generated and shared or legitimate concerns around safety/efficacy. I still can’t believe how badly designed and run their Phase 3 trials were. Such a pity Merck didn’t get involved instead of AZ. Their vaccine development know how would have made a huge difference. The Russian stuff is a bit of a red herring.Interesting article about the AZ vaccine includng a claim that Russia has been behind some of the vaccine misinformation spreading online in a bid to boost sales of their own vaccine.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...trials-and-tribulations-of-a-world-saving-jab
AgreedIt’s a good summary of events. Although it’s fair to say that all the really meaningful damage was self-inflicted due to either errors in the way their data was generated and shared or legitimate concerns around safety/efficacy. I still can’t believe how badly designed and run their Phase 3 trials were. Such a pity Merck didn’t get involved instead of AZ. Their vaccine development know how would have made a huge difference. The Russian stuff is a bit of a red herring.
Sounds like someone stole your identity. But they’re very unhealthy and you’ve taken their place in the queue for a vaccine. Karma’s a bitch.
The more vaccine doses that are available globally the better. I think the main complication with the Cuban vaccines is the need for three doses to get maximum efficacy. Let's hope its performance holds up against the variants.https://www.reuters.com/business/he...228-effective-against-coronavirus-2021-06-21/
Cuba have made their own vaccine candidate
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