The vaccines | vaxxed boosted unvaxxed? New poll

How's your immunity looking? Had covid - vote twice - vax status and then again for infection status

  • Vaxxed but no booster

  • Boostered

  • Still waiting in queue for first vaccine dose

  • Won't get vaxxed (unless I have to for travel/work etc)

  • Past infection with covid + I've been vaccinated

  • Past infection with covid - I've not been vaccinated


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Bratt

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Finally had my first jab of pfizer today at 9AM
Not a single hint of side effects or sore arm so far.
 

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Thanks for the replies all. Am I reading it right that young men should be advised to avoid hard exercise for a couple of weeks after vaccination? It will be a tricky one to get right if so, needing to warn them of a risk, but not putting them off vaccination, and not putting off those in other age/sex categories just looking for an anti-vax excuse anyway.
I was thinking more for those people that experience that kind of general rundown, fatigue feeling the first day after the jab. It might be that if you're feeling rough, you're better off sitting it out for a day or so rather than running it off :smirk:

The FDA will be adding a warning to the patient information so people know what to look out for.
 

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It’s hysterical bullshit written by lay-people with an obvious anti-vax agenda who blatantly don’t understand the post mortem findings.

I also think they’re lying about talking to “one Infectious Disease specialist” or that’s a self appointed title by someone who isn’t medically qualified.

I had a read of the autopsy report and would interpret it as follows:

A very old, frail man with multiple quite severe underlying illnesses was hospitalised shortly after being vaccinated. He died from a severe pneumonia and renal failure which the pathologist thinks was bacterial in origin (covid is a viral infection, not bacterial).

While he was very sick in hospital he tested positive for covid and post mortem testing revealed the virus had spread throughout his body. We know vaccines aren’t 100% effective so a case report of someone testing positive for covid after being vaccinated isn’t remotely surprising or startling. However it didn’t cause any of the tissue/organ damage you might expect to see from a severe covid infection. So it’s possible that the vaccine was protecting him from developing a severe illness due to CoVid (although obviously couldn’t protect him against pneumonia from an unrelated, bacterial infection) We can’t be certain how well the vaccine protected him because he died just 48 hours after testing positive for covid so was only in the very early stages of covid when something else killed him.

Tagging in @Wolverine and @africanspur in case I’ve missed something important in the PM. Fairly confident I’ve got the main gist of it correct though.

tl;dr The article is blatant anti-vax agenda written by deceitful idiots. Please don’t share any further.
No, I would totally agree with this. Had a quick look at the autopsy report as well and it doesn't say what the author is saying in the slightest. Weird take with an agenda!
 

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Had my second AZ jab yesterday (I'm only 30 FYI, as most AZ takers seem to be 40+).

I got hit so hard after the 1st one, honestly felt like the worst hangover I'd ever had, and was a bit nervous about the same happening after this one.

Took a paracetamol before bed as a precaution, but luckily it looks like it's nowhere near as bad, after ~18 hours, just slightly fatigued and a very minor headache.

So seems like the theory of only one of the jabs hitting hard holds true! From friends experiences, seems like Pfizer hits harder the 2nd time around, whilst AZ is the 1st.
 

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I'm not over 55! :lol:

I had the option of Pfizer, Moderna orJanssen. I picked Janssen the second she told me that it was a single dose.
Makes sense. The 6 week gap for Pfizer here is a pain, but understandable. I still have another week and a half to go until my second. Still I'll be fully covered days before my vacation so can't complain too much.
 

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Just book for the first jab in two weeks time. Odd thing was the letter I received said they had tried to contract me before which I'm pretty isn't true and that my records show I'm at high risk of getting seriously unwell from Covid, which again I'm pretty sure thats not true.
 

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:lol: I didn't think you were but surprised you had the Janssen.
@stu_1992 - they've reduced the gap again for Pfizer back to 4 weeks
Yeah but I couldn't really get a second appointment close by without travelling a bit, so I decided to just leave it with the original. As I said, I'll be fully vaccinated before my holiday so I'm happy enough.
 

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Just book for the first jab in two weeks time. Odd thing was the letter I received said they had tried to contract me before which I'm pretty isn't true and that my records show I'm at high risk of getting seriously unwell from Covid, which again I'm pretty sure thats not true.
Sounds like someone stole your identity. But they’re very unhealthy and you’ve taken their place in the queue for a vaccine. Karma’s a bitch.
 

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Not sure if this is the right topic for it, but this week I found out that a family member is deep into conspiracies regarding the vaccine. I mean, she's really in Bill Gates wants to put chips on people territory. My jaw dropped to the floor, she's generally well informed, college educated in psychology and often mocks right wing conspiracies when it comes to politics.

From what I've gathered her boyfriend has basically brainwashed her, but I don't know many details.

To be honest I think she's beyond help because she is really stubborn, the kind of person who never admits she's wrong. Although if someone has any advice on how to deal with this I'd like to hear.

Now the real problem is that she's using our family whatsapp group (and conversations in person from what I gathered) to convince everyone else not to get the vaccine and this is really pissing me off because we have a bunch of older people there who don't follow the news, don't do any research, who basically believe what the health ministry says, which is great.

I talked to my aunt today and she told she's having second thoughts because of all the misinformation she's been given.

If it was just her and her boyfriend I'd try to ignore it but I really think I should do something if it can affect other family members. I have no idea how to go about it without causing conflict, I'm really lost here, so if anyone had gone through something similar or has any advice I'd love to hear it.
 

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@maniak, you need to be really firm with her. Tell her she can believe whatever crazy stuff she wants, but you won't have her trying to change the mind of other people you care about.

You could also point out that you're very disappointed that she's allowed herself to be influenced by her boyfriend, as you thought she was more intelligent than that. :)
 

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I've received a code this morning to download my digital "Green" certificate, which is actually just a QR code unless you also download the "let's make a little leaflet" version. It's valid for exactly 9 months from the date of the second jab.

I assume we'll all have had a booster by then ....
 

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I've received a code this morning to download my digital "Green" certificate, which is actually just a QR code unless you also download the "let's make a little leaflet" version. It's valid for exactly 9 months from the date of the second jab.

I assume we'll all have had a booster by then ....
I said to the nurse this morning hope that's it for this year anyway and she just said who knows.
 

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Surely for those who had their first jab back in January, there'll have to be a booster before the end of the year? I mean for the very old and very frail.
I heard the booster program is set to start in the Autumn for the UK. The thinking is to get ahead of the winter wave they expect to come.
 

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Had my first does a few hours ago (Moderna), no side effects as of yet not even a sore arm.
 

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I've received a code this morning to download my digital "Green" certificate, which is actually just a QR code unless you also download the "let's make a little leaflet" version. It's valid for exactly 9 months from the date of the second jab.

I assume we'll all have had a booster by then ....
You know how it is.
There's no Microsoft product out there that does not need an update.
 

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Had my first does a few hours ago (Moderna), no side effects as of yet not even a sore arm.
2 days it took me to get to sore arm

I thought I was the cheese for the first couple of days...ooh look at me I have no side effects.... then bang!

I hope you don't get the same
 

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2 days it took me to get to sore arm

I thought I was the cheese for the first couple of days...ooh look at me I have no side effects.... then bang!

I hope you don't get the same
Starting to get a sore arm now...
 

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Interesting article about the AZ vaccine includng a claim that Russia has been behind some of the vaccine misinformation spreading online in a bid to boost sales of their own vaccine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...trials-and-tribulations-of-a-world-saving-jab
It’s a good summary of events. Although it’s fair to say that all the really meaningful damage was self-inflicted due to either errors in the way their data was generated and shared or legitimate concerns around safety/efficacy. I still can’t believe how badly designed and run their Phase 3 trials were. Such a pity Merck didn’t get involved instead of AZ. Their vaccine development know how would have made a huge difference. The Russian stuff is a bit of a red herring.
 

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It’s a good summary of events. Although it’s fair to say that all the really meaningful damage was self-inflicted due to either errors in the way their data was generated and shared or legitimate concerns around safety/efficacy. I still can’t believe how badly designed and run their Phase 3 trials were. Such a pity Merck didn’t get involved instead of AZ. Their vaccine development know how would have made a huge difference. The Russian stuff is a bit of a red herring.
Agreed
 

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After 2nd dose of AZ yesterday morning it was quite different this time - a great sleep and no side effects as yet. Hope it stays like that.
 

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2nd dose BioNTech here. Feel like absolute shit, far worse than a common cold, flue-ish symptoms with fever and extreme fatigue.
 

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