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That news is being read all over the world and is going to spook people.Yeah that’s a terrible headline. Irresponsible reporting really.
That news is being read all over the world and is going to spook people.Yeah that’s a terrible headline. Irresponsible reporting really.
Which is a pity. Because the logic behind the decision is sound. Just difficult to get across in a news headline (or even in the article itself)That news is being read all over the world and is going to spook people.
Hopefully more than one!They're still talking about all adults being offered a first vaccine by the end of July. They think they can do that based on anticipated Pfizer/Moderna deliveries.
They haven't included any new vaccines in that plan, whereas by July we might be seeing one of the new vaccines adding to the supply. Approval and deliveries permitting of course.
It's the definition of any moment that's problematicIsn't Novavax due at any moment?
Same. And I've just now read that my age group (35-39) is now more likely the week after next.At this stage i just want my first shot asap.
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I can't imagine having a test has any impact on the vaccine.Is there a particular amount of time you're supposed to wait after testing negative before the shot or is that all BS?
Like all the vaccines the answer is maybe, you might feel anywhere from totally fine to atrociousAnyone has already had Pfizer?
I've got mine planned on Thursday and wonder if there will be any side effects the following day.
My son in the US has. Fatigued for 24 hrs after first and nothing noticeable from the second (hangover possibly masked the symptoms). Typically you get fatigue, headache and/or mild flu symptoms in (working from memory so may be a bit out) about 40% of cases with the first shot and 60% with the second shot.Anyone has already had Pfizer?
I've got mine planned on Thursday and wonder if there will be any side effects the following day.
Naa I meant I contracted Covid in April. Tested negative around 20th April.I can't imagine having a test has any impact on the vaccine.
His logic was that around the 3 month mark your natural antibodies start waning and getting a shot before that makes the vaccine a bit less effective.Naa I meant I contracted Covid in April. Tested negative around 20th April.
Should I wait a few days before getting vaccinated? A friend told me to wait 2-3 months before getting a shot.
The clots aren’t comparable either. You’re comparing apples and oranges. The clotting concern with AZ isn’t a DVT/PE it’s a different, much rarer condition. With a much higher chance of a bad outcome.There is so much poor, misleading and plain dishonest information out there about the AZ/Oxford vaccine associated clotting issues. These are the % risks of a serious clotting event,
Catching covid (deep vein thrombosis): 11.2%
Catching covid (pulmonary embolism): 7.8%
(and you can get both)
The Contraceptive Pill: 0.6%
The AZ vaccine: 0.00017%
The risks aren't comparable and even drinking a glass of water has a risk. The best vaccine is the one in your arm. I'm getting my first AZ shot next Tuesday. About bloody time.
The standard advice is to wait 28 days from a covid positive test, which protects the vaccination team really and lets the vaccine operate as a booster.Naa I meant I contracted Covid in April. Tested negative around 20th April.
Should I wait a few days before getting vaccinated? A friend told me to wait 2-3 months before getting a shot.
ThanksThe standard advice is to wait 28 days from a covid positive test, which protects the vaccination team really and lets the vaccine operate as a booster.
There's no reason to think that there's an advantage to waiting three months. Some studies have suggested that having covid before means that you may only need one dose to get maximum protection, but I don't think any health authorities have actually turned that into a policy.
It’s a policy in Ireland. If you’ve had confirmed Covid infection in the last six months (and you’re < 50) then you only get one dose of vaccine.The standard advice is to wait 28 days from a covid positive test, which protects the vaccination team really and lets the vaccine operate as a booster.
There's no reason to think that there's an advantage to waiting three months. Some studies have suggested that having covid before means that you may only need one dose to get maximum protection, but I don't think any health authorities have actually turned that into a policy.
According to a mass study in the UK (600,000 adults taking AZ or Pfizer) there's a good chance you'll get a sore arm, and a lower chance that you'll feel a bit flu-ey (headache, fatigue etc) the next day. The unlucky ones feel more fluey and it goes on for longer.Anyone has already had Pfizer?
I've got mine planned on Thursday and wonder if there will be any side effects the following day.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56901356About 70% of people having the Pfizer jab had some reaction around where the needle went in, including pain, tenderness, redness or swelling, compared with just under 60% for the AstraZeneca jab.
The trend was reversed for those reactions that affect the whole body rather than just the site of the injection.
For the AstraZeneca jab, 34% had some "systemic" (whole body) reaction like headache, tiredness or chills. For the Pfizer vaccine this was only 14% after the first dose and 22% after the second.
The most common of these side effects was a headache.
Ah that's interesting. To avoid wasting resources or for some other reason? I know in the UK they didn't do that - but then we have that three month delay between first and second doses.It’s a policy in Ireland. If you’ve had confirmed Covid infection in the last six months (and you’re < 50) then you only get one dose of vaccine.
Decision was made on the back of the publication you alluded to. With such good evidence that only one dose is needed it doesn’t make sense to get them back in for a second jab. The only unknown is if/when they need a booster 6 to 12 months down the road but that’s an unknown for everyone.Ah that's interesting. To avoid wasting resources or for some other reason? I know in the UK they didn't do that - but then we have that three month delay between first and second doses.
That's reasonable. It's one of the many great things about the public health services. You can monitor a subset of people for antibodies (and the whole group for protection against variants etc) and build evidence, then act.Decision was made on the back of the publication you alluded to. With such good evidence that only one dose is needed it doesn’t make sense to get them back in for a second jab. The only unknown is if/when they need a booster 6 to 12 months down the road but that’s an unknown for everyone.
Thanks a lot!According to a mass study in the UK (600,000 adults taking AZ or Pfizer) there's a good chance you'll get a sore arm, and a lower chance that you'll feel a bit flu-ey (headache, fatigue etc) the next day. The unlucky ones feel more fluey and it goes on for longer.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56901356
Including that post.There is so much poor, misleading and plain dishonest information out there about the AZ/Oxford vaccine associated clotting issues. These are the % risks of a serious clotting event,
Catching covid (deep vein thrombosis): 11.2%
Catching covid (pulmonary embolism): 7.8%
(and you can get both)
The Contraceptive Pill: 0.6%
The AZ vaccine: 0.00017%
The risks aren't comparable and even drinking a glass of water has a risk. The best vaccine is the one in your arm. I'm getting my first AZ shot next Tuesday. About bloody time.
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That slide has been updated, based on new data from MHRA (and other regulators) and the reduced current case rates in the UK. As you say, the risk level is lower again for the average Australian (not working in healthcare or linked to quarantine centres)Including that post.
Assuming a transmission risk of 2 cases in 10,000 (the UK is currently at around 0.3), the probability of catching Covid and ending up in ICU vs the risk from the vaccine:
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The risk balance will be quite a bit different for countries with virtually zero transmission like Australia/NZ.
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Thanks. The UK's case incidence is now approximately half again from that updated slide. The relationships between cases and ICU admissions look to be fairly linear so you could assume with half the case count those figures on the left will also be halved.That
That slide has been updated, based on new data from MHRA (and other regulators) and the reduced current case rates in the UK. As you say, the risk level is lower again for the average Australian (not working in healthcare or linked to quarantine centres)
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For first dose, I got slight-medium muscular pain in the shoulder for a day.Anyone has already had Pfizer?
I've got mine planned on Thursday and wonder if there will be any side effects the following day.
Had it last week. Upper arm was stiff the evening of the jab, and a lot achier the following day.Anyone has already had Pfizer?
I've got mine planned on Thursday and wonder if there will be any side effects the following day.
Same side effect, I had my first Pfizer jab on Saturday.For first dose, I got slight-medium muscular pain in the shoulder for a day.