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Things you really hate about the football/modern game

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The refusal to have video technology and therefore giving referees an incredibly hard job because players can get away with cheating and too many games are decided by poor decisions. Especially the idea that video reffing would slow the game down too much when we see 4 minute long celebrations after every goal, substitutions that take 3 minutes, every free takes 3 to 4 minutes etc. Ironically football is one of the slowest games in the World because players are allowed to contend with the referee and take their time over every little thing.

Also the clock should be stopped when the ball isn't in play and the whistle blown at 45 mins and 90 mins respectively.
I'm not too sure about. As a fan of basketball and rugby also, I've gotta say I HATE how much they stop the clock in those sports to defer to video evidence to make sure they get the "right call". Momentum and flow matter, and football is the last sport in the world where these are kept intact. The odd poor decision is worth it. For example, as a United fan I was pissed off at the Nani red card vs Real Madrid. For my love of the sport in general though, I'll take those calls. The alternative is that down the line, time will be stopped for every single little decision that will be rewatched by some panel to be absolutely sure that a ball may or may not have come off Chris Smalling's leg last.

As for stopping the clock when the ball isn't play, I agree if you're talking about injuries. Anything else though (ball goes into touch, player setting up for a free kick, goal celebrations etc) shouldn't be factored into stopping the clock.
 

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Hats, gloves, tights (unless it's the middle of a Siberian winter when it might be excusable )! I'm still very wary of long sleeved shirts.
Not sure where you are but winter can be cold here you know! And if you have any experience engaging in any sports, having sufficient/appropriate clothing are essential for protecting one from catching a cold during exercise. Today the technology is so high gears are breathable (meaning it keeps you from elements yet allows free flow of perspiration).
 

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Not sure where you are but winter can be cold here you know! And if you have any experience engaging in any sports, having sufficient/appropriate clothing are essential for protecting one from catching a cold during exercise. Today the technology is so high gears are breathable (meaning it keeps you from elements yet allows free flow of perspiration).
Manchester. And I still can't make my mind up on long sleeved shirts.:)
 

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1. Diving players should be fined or carded after the fact... or just plain called out for being cheats. If I was Larent Blanc and I missed the world cup final because Bilic's horrible play acting, I'm pretty sure I would be really pissed about it.

2. Bad calls which are not rescinded... Darren Fletcher missing the 2009 CL final because of a blown call still irritates the hell out of me (and no I don't think he was the difference between winning and losing)

3. The growth of punditism... 95% of which is pure crap.

4. David Moyes

5. Pointless International Friendlies

6. The League Cup... why bother?
 

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Watching the Real Madrid game last night and noticed Pepe rolling around on the floor clutching his ankle like he'd broken it. Loads of players do it including United players and it makes me want to jump up and headbut the telly. I hate it. I think its worse than actual diving- these are grown men pretending to be hurt. The physio's then rush out, give a bit of poor little didums rub, bit of spray and hey presto, then standing up and taking a couple of gingerly steps before sprinting down the pitch. I hate this more than any other thing in football.
What do you hate about football/ footballers?
While I agree that playacting has becoming bad, I would play the devils advocate regarding modern game.

Fans
The fans wanted old value, atmosphere, not so much money driven players, loyalty, home grown, cheap ticket, but at the same time they're crying for qualitites, they keep on wanting clubs to spend big to buy players (cough.. us this season), they want ticket to be cheap, but they also want world class players.

Support/Loyalty
My guess is that supporters back then are quite patience, they support the club through thick and thin. The players back then were probably not the mercenaries type we know now. But to be fair to them, have we shown the loyalty towards players that the past supporters have shown? Many of us in the forums here crying for "x" to get sold, calling them names under the suns, and belittling their effort while scrutinising everything they do outside the field. Is it fair?

Feigning Injury
In regards with the OP, I think this is abit on the opposite extreme compared to the past. In the past I think there's too many brutal tackle and the players that did so raising their arms pretending like they don't know, or nothing happened. Kinda like the exact opposite of pretending to be hurt i.e. hurting someone and pretending like you don't know. For me it's equally disgusting
 

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In ascending order:

11. Time-wasting. Extreme form of cheating. Not so common in the Premier league fortunately enough.

10. Diving. Taken to extremes by so many players it has become endemic. Virtually every team has a few of them. Severe retroactive punishments should be introduced.

9. Soft penalties, especially for ball-to-hand cases. A defender cannot make his arms disappear just because he is inside the box, and you cannot play football with your arms behind your back the whole time, you will just lose balance and fall over. Hell, we even have cases when a player pulls his arms towards his body, a very fast ball hits him and the ref points to the spot. Simply atrocious.

8. "Allowing physical play" which many times means allowing a team to get away with persistent, deliberate and even dangerous fouling without the bookings demanded by the rules.

7. The so-called "Champions Route" for CL qualification. It allows shitty teams, from minor leagues to play against each other and enter the GS of the CL, while on the other side, you have the so-called "League Route" which means that top teams, from top leagues will knock themselves out. The result of all this being the weakening of the competition at the GS.

6. Statistics-mania. Football is not like other sports that can be almost entirely summed up in statistics. If "statistics" were the be all-end-all of football, then Zidane and Iniesta would have been crap players.

5. Allusions to obscure or ancient precedents by fans/pundits. For example, "no European team has ever won the World Cup in South America." As if there have been 24 World Cups in South America and European teams have been utter dogshite in all 24 of them. 4 European nations made the quarters in 1970 (USSR, England, Italy and Germany) with Italy and Germany finishing 2nd and 3rd behind a mighty Brazil. In 1978, 5 European teams made the final 8 (Poland, Netherlands, Austria, Germany and Italy) In 1986, it was again 5 out of 8 (England, Spain, France, Belgium, Germany) and 3 of the final 4. More on this later.

4. Absurd hyping of youngsters. Whenever this 17 or 18 year old does a couple of good moves in a few games, there will be an avalanche about the kid being the future Messi, or the future Drogba or the new "insert name of current or past great" Wake up people, the vast majority of youngsters never live up to the hype! Many stagnate, some even decline straight away, and others while managing to improve, never even remotely live up to the hype. Conversely, not every player remains good until 34/5. Some turn into shite well before that (Kaka anyone?) And not every player declines gently. A player may as well remain world class until age 32 and the following season be nowhere at all. It can almost happen overnight. Basically, when you keep hold of old players, you have ticking time-bombs on your hands.

3. The fact that so many World Cups have been absolutely scandalous and very few seem to remember or mention that. The example are endless (Italy winning at home under Mussolini in the 30s, Germany on steroids in 1954, multiple scandalous decisions in 1966 designed to harm the socialist countries and even more crucially the South American ones. 1978 in Argentina under the Junta of the Generals. Phantom penalty for Germany in 1990. Daylight robbery against Italy, Portugal and Spain in 2002. And last but not least, Lampard's goal in South Africa :D This shines light over point "5" as well.

2. Retroactive punditry based solely on the scoreline. As an example, people saying that Bayern did not play well a couple of nights back because they lost 1-0 to Real Madrid in the Bernabeu, never occurring to said pundits/fans that when you are playing with a major rival away from home the possibility of defeat is necessarily always there, even if you do play well. It also never occurs to these people that if last year's Bayern were faced with the same tactics that this year's Bayern are being faced, they could very well have lost as well, which they almost did by the way (Arsenal, Dortmund) The examples for this are virtually without end.

1. Money. Genuinely the source of all evil in this world. What a game it would have been if there was a universal cap on the pay of all football players on the planet, meaning they would largely be playing for glory/love for the club and its fans. This would mean that a club from Zagreb, or Lagos, or Nottingham or Bogota or whatever could be the best in the world. Now, the places that nurture the best players on the planet are hardly ever rewarded, while the best players end up wherever the hedge funds or petrodollars decided to flow.
 

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7. The so-called "Champions Route" for CL qualification. It allows shitty teams, from minor leagues to play against each other and enter the GS of the CL, while on the other side, you have the so-called "League Route" which means that top teams, from top leagues will knock themselves out. The result of all this being the weakening of the competition at the GS.

1. Money. Genuinely the source of all evil in this world. What a game it would have been if there was a universal cap on the pay of all football players on the planet, meaning they would largely be playing for glory/love for the club and its fans. This would mean that a club from Zagreb, or Lagos, or Nottingham or Bogota or whatever could be the best in the world. Now, the places that nurture the best players on the planet are hardly ever rewarded, while the best players end up wherever the hedge funds or petrodollars decided to flow.
Filling the Champions League with teams from the top leagues is a big reason why number one is such a problem in the game. The gap in resources between the have's and have not's has accelerated rapidly over the last 15 years thanks to money-hoarding initiatives such as (but not limited to) multiple teams from the same country in the Champions League. Not letting in small teams makes the problem worse.
 

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'Pep'. It's just one of those names, or shortened names, that annoys me

I can't explain why but I'm fine with Sir Alex or Jose or Arsene, but saying Pep always sounds a bit wankerish. I think it's because it tends to be used exclusively in a context of sycophancy.
 

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Not many things really. Off the top of my head I hate the fact that the media over here is driven by xenophobic agendas which see British managers/players backed to the hilt while the press basically bully foreign managers out of their job. Also hate the 'jobs for the boys' culture in punditry which has just ended up making pre-match, half-time and post-match air time worthless that interests only those who can't think for themselves. So yeah...I hate the modern day media.
 

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- New age plastic footballs, incredibly difficult to get chip shots from outside the box. Yes i know it still happened a few times this season (sanchez,sturridge). Plus the fact that these balls swerve around so much.
By far the thing that annoys me most. The balls make all these crazy movements in the air, making it harder for keepers. You hardly ever see keepers catching shots anymore because the balls are so unpredictable. I know they are designed to make the game more entertaining, but they just end up cheapening certain goals for me and has led to certain players being able to just hit and hope when taking free kicks.

Below is a perfect example, yes it's a good goal but there's no way that ball went where Calhanoglu intended it to and Weidenfeller is left with no chance through no fault of his own.

They've managed to make the balls progressively worse since France 98 imo. Forget the money, rule changes and the improvements in fitness in football, the balls are the main reason why it is impossible to compare players between different eras.
 

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By far the thing that annoys me most. The balls make all these crazy movements in the air, making it harder for keepers. You hardly ever see keepers catching shots anymore because the balls are so unpredictable. I know they are designed to make the game more entertaining, but they just end up cheapening certain goals for me and has led to certain players being able to just hit and hope when taking free kicks.

Below is a perfect example, yes it's a good goal but there's no way that ball went where Calhanoglu intended it to and Weidenfeller is left with no chance through no fault of his own.

They've managed to make the balls progressively worse since France 98 imo. Forget the money, rule changes and the improvements in fitness in football, the balls are the main reason why it is impossible to compare players between different eras.
Yeah. Balls have been over-engineered and over-marketed and were a big reason in the 2010 World Cup being such a damp squib. They've also introduced a new breed of free-kick taker. Out goes the classic up-and-over-the-wall expert like Del Piero, Beckham or Zola, in comes the get-that-ball-to-wobble-all-over-the-shop merchants like Ronaldo and Bale.
 

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Filling the Champions League with teams from the top leagues is a big reason why number one is such a problem in the game. The gap in resources between the have's and have not's has accelerated rapidly over the last 15 years thanks to money-hoarding initiatives such as (but not limited to) multiple teams from the same country in the Champions League. Not letting in small teams makes the problem worse.
Under the current economic set-up in the world in general, and football in particular, the admission each season of some of the champion teams from countries such as Switzerland, Austria, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Denmark, Romania, Slovakia, Serbia, Scotland and the Czech Republic will not alter the balance of power one iota. The windfall in revenue generated by even consecutive entrances into the Champions League group stage, won't take the biggest club of the countries' mentioned above anywhere near the very bottom club of the EPL, or even Serie A (in terms of finances) In order for the game of football to become fair, much more radical moves are required, not only in the rules of governing football, but in the world in general. That is the reason I left that point for absolute last on my list, because I know full well that what I am suggesting should happen in world football is basically utopian, for the time being at least.

To return back to the "Champions Route" of the CL qualification process, the only tangible effect of that arrangement is that the clubs from small nations entering the CL group stage, immediately gain a colossal advantage over all their domestic rivals, in terms of both prestige and more importantly money. The gap between major leagues and minor leagues cannot be affected in the slightest by this genuinely atrocious rule.
 

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'Pep'. It's just one of those names, or shortened names, that annoys me

I can't explain why but I'm fine with Sir Alex or Jose or Arsene, but saying Pep always sounds a bit wankerish. I think it's because it tends to be used exclusively in a context of sycophancy.
I'll add players having nicknames on their shirts. Like Chicharito instead of Hernandez
 

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I'll add players having nicknames on their shirts. Like Chicharito instead of Hernandez
Yep, to be honest anyone who says Chicharito annoys me a bit but I gathered maybe here wasn't fertile ground for that complaint :p
 

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Probably wages. They are extreme but to be fair they are extreme on all forms of entertainment.

I hate diving, but I think that it happened all the time.

Other than that, not much.
 

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That's always existed though. Brazilian players have always done that (Garrincha, for example).
back in Garrincha's day, no-one had any names on the shirts, just numbers. Names came in with the Premiership iirc.
 

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Punditry and Presenters - whether on radio or tv, the same rent a gobs. A good example is Mark Bosnich who is a regular on TalkSport, surely they must be able to find someone more qualified to talk about mufc. Adrian Chiles and Ben Shepherd... enough said.

Linked to the above is the BBC, jobs for life at the corporation means that we are stuck with the same feckin arses for years, Hansen, Lawrenson, Shearer, Crooks, and Robbie Fecking Savage.
 

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Just my feeling, especially amongst middle aged people, everything was better in the good old days, ask them if they'd like to live in a world still suffering from rabies, polio, I guess they'd think twice about it.
 

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Punditry and Presenters - whether on radio or tv, the same rent a gobs. A good example is Mark Bosnich who is a regular on TalkSport, surely they must be able to find someone more qualified to talk about mufc. Adrian Chiles and Ben Shepherd... enough said.

Linked to the above is the BBC, jobs for life at the corporation means that we are stuck with the same feckin arses for years, Hansen, Lawrenson, Shearer, Crooks, and Robbie Fecking Savage.
On punditry the worst thing are presenters that see hosting a football programme as their audition for a Saturday night light entertainment show. It's only Lineker and Chiles that do this really but it's so annoying - watching MOTD or Champions League on the TV shouldn't be a showcase of how devastatingly erudite and amusing someone is. Chiles is worst of all, I half expect him to put his agent's phone number on screen and announce he's available for after dinner functions and works parties.
 

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On punditry the worst thing are presenters that see hosting a football programme as their audition for a Saturday night light entertainment show. It's only Lineker and Chiles that do this really but it's so annoying - watching MOTD or Champions League on the TV shouldn't be a showcase of how devastatingly erudite and amusing someone is. Chiles is worst of all, I half expect him to put his agent's phone number on screen and announce he's available for after dinner functions and works parties.
Chiles is the worst, but I do wonder wtf the other presenters thought when Ben Shepherd rocked up on the sofa next to Chris Kamara.
 

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Another one I hate is the belief that if you're 6' 5 that you're somehow automatically good in the air. You see teams at corners each time aim for the 'big towering defender' who hasn't scored from a corner in about four and a half years but because he casts a shadow of the Angel of the North he's the one the corner taker aims for every single time and it's usually the same outcome, it bounces off his head and flies miles over the bar. It winds me up when I see this.

"Will the big centre-half score?"

NO. Obviously he won't. He's not scored in more years than I care to remember. At corners - try something else!
 

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How did I forget Adrian Chiles? He might just be the single most annoying thing about football atm.
 

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In ascending order:

11. Time-wasting. Extreme form of cheating. Not so common in the Premier league fortunately enough.

10. Diving. Taken to extremes by so many players it has become endemic. Virtually every team has a few of them. Severe retroactive punishments should be introduced.

9. Soft penalties, especially for ball-to-hand cases. A defender cannot make his arms disappear just because he is inside the box, and you cannot play football with your arms behind your back the whole time, you will just lose balance and fall over. Hell, we even have cases when a player pulls his arms towards his body, a very fast ball hits him and the ref points to the spot. Simply atrocious.

8. "Allowing physical play" which many times means allowing a team to get away with persistent, deliberate and even dangerous fouling without the bookings demanded by the rules.

7. The so-called "Champions Route" for CL qualification. It allows shitty teams, from minor leagues to play against each other and enter the GS of the CL, while on the other side, you have the so-called "League Route" which means that top teams, from top leagues will knock themselves out. The result of all this being the weakening of the competition at the GS.

6. Statistics-mania. Football is not like other sports that can be almost entirely summed up in statistics. If "statistics" were the be all-end-all of football, then Zidane and Iniesta would have been crap players.

5. Allusions to obscure or ancient precedents by fans/pundits. For example, "no European team has ever won the World Cup in South America." As if there have been 24 World Cups in South America and European teams have been utter dogshite in all 24 of them. 4 European nations made the quarters in 1970 (USSR, England, Italy and Germany) with Italy and Germany finishing 2nd and 3rd behind a mighty Brazil. In 1978, 5 European teams made the final 8 (Poland, Netherlands, Austria, Germany and Italy) In 1986, it was again 5 out of 8 (England, Spain, France, Belgium, Germany) and 3 of the final 4. More on this later.

4. Absurd hyping of youngsters. Whenever this 17 or 18 year old does a couple of good moves in a few games, there will be an avalanche about the kid being the future Messi, or the future Drogba or the new "insert name of current or past great" Wake up people, the vast majority of youngsters never live up to the hype! Many stagnate, some even decline straight away, and others while managing to improve, never even remotely live up to the hype. Conversely, not every player remains good until 34/5. Some turn into shite well before that (Kaka anyone?) And not every player declines gently. A player may as well remain world class until age 32 and the following season be nowhere at all. It can almost happen overnight. Basically, when you keep hold of old players, you have ticking time-bombs on your hands.

3. The fact that so many World Cups have been absolutely scandalous and very few seem to remember or mention that. The example are endless (Italy winning at home under Mussolini in the 30s, Germany on steroids in 1954, multiple scandalous decisions in 1966 designed to harm the socialist countries and even more crucially the South American ones. 1978 in Argentina under the Junta of the Generals. Phantom penalty for Germany in 1990. Daylight robbery against Italy, Portugal and Spain in 2002. And last but not least, Lampard's goal in South Africa :D This shines light over point "5" as well.

2. Retroactive punditry based solely on the scoreline. As an example, people saying that Bayern did not play well a couple of nights back because they lost 1-0 to Real Madrid in the Bernabeu, never occurring to said pundits/fans that when you are playing with a major rival away from home the possibility of defeat is necessarily always there, even if you do play well. It also never occurs to these people that if last year's Bayern were faced with the same tactics that this year's Bayern are being faced, they could very well have lost as well, which they almost did by the way (Arsenal, Dortmund) The examples for this are virtually without end.

1. Money. Genuinely the source of all evil in this world. What a game it would have been if there was a universal cap on the pay of all football players on the planet, meaning they would largely be playing for glory/love for the club and its fans. This would mean that a club from Zagreb, or Lagos, or Nottingham or Bogota or whatever could be the best in the world. Now, the places that nurture the best players on the planet are hardly ever rewarded, while the best players end up wherever the hedge funds or petrodollars decided to flow.
Barcelona are guilty of most of those. :p
 

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Are the crowd chanting You'll Never Walk Alone at about the 6.50 mark? Or is that You'll Never Get a Job?
My Dad has supported United and has gone to OT since he was a kid in the early 60s and he says You'll Never Walk Alone was originally sung by United fans for the Busby Babes, before someone (can't remember who) re-released it and it became associated with Liverpool.

Just did a quick google search and this seems to corroborate that fact: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ws/youll-never-walk-alone-is-our-song-1121768
 

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Barcelona are guilty of most of those. :p
Some of those for sure. I am not saying Barcelona are angelic, and it would be just plain stupid and suicidal to be angelic under these circumstances.

I know you are making this comment light-heartedly, but in any case, I will give you a serious reply. The ills of football (or of the world in general) cannot be fixed by individuals or individual clubs deciding to turn saintly or hyper-moral. They can only be fixed by rules (and economic conditions) being similar for everyone. From what I know at least, the only club that can hold some kind of moral high-ground, are Athletic Bilbao for the well-known reasons, and they have suffered as a result.