Rafaeldagold
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That never happened though, you're conflating different games here.
It did happen...
That never happened though, you're conflating different games here.
In your opinion
It did happen...
Ahhhh, so it’s the way he’s criticised,
as though that matters at all on an internet forum. Hurts your feelings does it?
fecking mard arse.
Mate, in the age of google this is really easy to verify. Van Gaal was here for two seasons, we beat Liverpool 2-1 and 1-0 at Anfield in those seasons.It did happen...
Mate, in the age of google this is really easy to verify. Van Gaal was here for two seasons, we beat Liverpool 2-1 and 1-0 at Anfield in those seasons.
We did beat them 3-0 at Old Trafford in 2015, though that scoreline flattered us massively - that was the game when De Gea basically destroyed Sterling's confidence.
Fair enough, probably just had enough of reading “ole is clueless he should have done this he should have done that” with such conviction by people who have probably never even kicked a competitive ballDoes that need stating? My point isn't the viewpoint but the validity of the subjects. Just because someone disagrees doesn't make those subjects unwelcome, it invites debate.
No, I just support Manchester United football club for 42 years, and I have reverence for our legends. I've been there when we were shit, then when we were good, and now while we're average but improving.
You're, what? 14? 15 at best? I mean, I make that educated guess based on the quality of your posts.
Try supporting the club and team, rather than just blindly jumping into to criticise when everything isn't rosy, as that's clearly all you've ever known Manchester United to be. A trophy vacuum.
Well whatever we beat Liverpool twice at Anfield and beat them 3-0 at home. Doesn’t really detract from my point that we definitely dominated them at Anfield & smashed them at home does it?
Our wins against top teams have been plucky defensive underdog victories which is a bit sad
I kinda agree with that, as this has been one of those pet peeves of mine for a long time, even going back to SAF. I'm still a little bit sore about how we didn't even attempt to take on Barcelona in 2008 when they were a shambles (and yet inexplicably went toe-to-toe with them in Rome a year later when they were in their absolute pomp). In the last 20 years, the only time we genuinely outplayed Liverpool at Anfield was the Juanfield game under Van Gaal; as a fanbase, we kind of take it for granted now that against the top teams, we sit back, soak up the pressure, and hit them on the counter. If it works, it works, sure, but even in the last days of Fergie I thought we should be a bit more ambitious than that.Well whatever we beat Liverpool twice at Anfield and beat them 3-0 at home. Doesn’t really detract from my point that we definitely dominated them at Anfield & smashed them at home does it?
Our wins against top teams have been plucky defensive underdog victories which is a bit sad
I'm sick of it.
More or less every thread I open, people are openly having pops at Solskjaer. It's incessant. And frankly, embarrassing.
This man has given more-or-less his entire fecking life to this club. Never ONCE has he put Ole first. It's always been the club.
He came to the club as a player, spent the majority of his time on the bench, (despite having outstanding performances week-in, week-out), and he could easily have moved on to another club, like Tottenham, where he was a nailed on starter with a larger earning capacity. Instead, he stuck around and gave his all - knowing full well he was always going to be a substitute. He loved the club.
He came into the job as manager with the club at the lowest state it's been in in some 25+ years. He never knew he was going to be permanent manger; he came in to "help"- which is what Ole does and always has done for this club. When he arrived, from top to bottom, the club fecking stunk. The players didn't want to be here, gave half arse performances, the football was terrible to watch, the club was in total disarray with it's player acquisitions, and we were in free-fall. Despite all of this, Ole came in, steadied the ship, completely reversed the culture within the club, bought "United" players, promoted youth, and restructured the club to how it was in our most successful era.
It's a rebuilding process. Get the culture right within, and the football will follow. Only a complete idiot can say that we haven't progressed this season. The level of entitlement on this forum is ridiculous. He's been here a season and a half, and in that time we have progressed massively.We have people on this forum calling him an "idiot", and wanting us to bring in their new manager of the month flavour. Jose and Van Gaal were two of the most successful and decorated managers prior to joining us - how did they fare? We've seen tangible progress with Solskjaer - which is more than I can say for his predecessors - and look at the state of the club when he received it relative to Jose, LVG and Moyes. But let's just change the manager and roll the dice on an unproven Manchester United manager yet again?
We're moving in the right direction. Give the man a fecking break.
You having a mare posting in here and then after you repeatedly get picked up on it, it’s just a well whateverWhat’s funny about that?
You having a mare posting in here and then after you repeatedly get picked up on it, it’s just a well whatever
How’s it a mare..? I literally just pointed out we’ve not once dominated a top team since LVG against Liverpool..
All our victories against top teams are like a League 1 side away against a prem team - which you can’t refute as you didn’t even acknowledge it in your ‘funny’ reply
40 and I care not one bit if some guy/gal on tinernet says some bad words about a club legend. I know neither person personally. The internet is full of knobs, daft opinions and anger, only an absolute moron would think he/she could police it and let it “bother” them.
You sound highly strung.
You’re arguing about our past results and smashing Liverpool away from home 3-0 when it never happened.
It’s clear to see you don’t want Ole here and disagree we’re moving forward. That’s fair enough but you don’t half talk some shit to go with it
On Ole specifically it’s the personal insults I don’t like. I think there are valid question marks over whether he’s a good enough manager/coach for a top club and to be perfectly honest our form from March until January would have got him sacked at most clubs in the league let alone one of the biggest in the world but calling him names and stuff is bang out of line. He clearly loves the club and wants to do everything he can to get us back to where we belong. Whether he’s good enough I don’t know. However, we’re one result way from having a good season and since January and Bruno we’ve clearly improved.
Most of our legends get treated with total disrespect on here though. It isn’t unique to Ole. There are a not insignificant minority of posters who seemingly despise Keane, Neville and Giggs too. And they don’t particularly like any of our current players either, and they’re definitely not fans of “the United way”. It’s all a bit odd, I don’t know what they actually support about the club.
This is a discussion forum.
Much the same as people slagging off Ole, I'm here supporting him. People can opine however they like - just like I can provide balance to the negativity, (if I so choose to), also.
It does make a slight difference to be honest, it just goes along with your continued hyperbole such as us playing like a league 1 teamDoes it really matter if we smashed Liverpool 3-0 at home or away? We also definitely did dominate them totally at Anfield.
So not sure why you think that makes the point invalid
It does make a slight difference to be honest, it just goes along with your continued hyperbole such as us playing like a league 1 team
Many sides go away to other top sides and dominate?It’s not hyperbole. We defended for our lives & gave control to the opposing team.
Like a League 1 team would do in a cup match against a Prem side
Many sides go away to other top sides and dominate?
We dominated City at the Etihad for 60 odd minutes this season. Should have been 4 up.LVG did at Anfield. And others at least have periods of control, not outright giving total control to the opposition
We dominated City at the Etihad for 60 odd minutes this season. Should have been 4 up.
Carragher said it was the best ever performance he had seen v a Pep side.
Well whatever we beat Liverpool twice at Anfield and beat them 3-0 at home. Doesn’t really detract from my point that we definitely dominated them at Anfield & smashed them at home does it?
Our wins against top teams have been plucky defensive underdog victories which is a bit sad
As we're all well aware, Klopp walked in to Liverpool and in 18 months time, brought them success.
Oh, wait?! He didn't?!
It took him how long? How many transfer windows? How many players brought in to fit his culture and style of playing!? Surely this isn't right?! I mean, It's Jurgen fecking Klopp!? He doesn't need time?!
And let's not even go there with Pep. He walked in to the best team in the league filled ith superstars and a bench that's better than the majority of other teams starting 11. Oh, yeah, with an unlimited budget to buy/mold a team how he saw fit.
This thread isn't about Pep, and Klopp, anyway. That shit's strewn all over these forums; as they get worshipped like the messiah's they are and the magic they've conjured at a pace faster than what's expected from Ole.
Maybe you should a bit of research before making broad generalisations?That’s not how I remember it but if the god that is Jamie Carragher said it it must be true
Liverpools team in that match was: Jones, Johnson, Skrtel, Lovren, Henderson, Gerrard, Allen, Moreno, Coutinho, Sterling, Lallana. They finished 6th in the table just ahead of Southampton and Swansea. Are you seriously comparing Liverpool from december 2014 to Liverpool in 2019/20 ?
You're right I think.The trophies. That's what they're accustomed to, and likely, why they supported United in the first place. Had they been born a few years down the track, they'd likely be supporting Chelsea or Man City.
Now the trophies have dried up, they don't know what to do anymore, so play the blame game.
So what’s your point? Ole is shit because he didn’t dominate Liverpool away from home? The fact he dominated city away from Home This season doesn’t count though?I’m saying we NEVER dominated Liverpool even when they were worse than ‘14 side.
That’s the only time under LVG that I remember us totally controlling the game & playing them off the park. How about the City team we beat 3-0 then? Will you give a list of names of their team? Thought not...
Maybe you should a bit of research before making broad generalisations?
We dominated that game every bit as the Juanfield game.