You have a poor memory. Considering James has our most assists last season
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He had 6, same as Martial. Bruno & Rashford both had more.
Totally agree. 1st season in Pl, his dad passed away, he’s shunted to a position which he doesn’t play, has a break in play for COVID and still has our most assists. Early in the season he was getting high praise.
united fans are the worst, fickle and impatient.
for the sake of his career I hope he moves to a team that appreciates him because he can tear teams apart on his day when used on the left.
if he stays he’s certainly far from “the poorest player I can remember in our history” or “he’s a championship player”. Absolute bs
Well there you go he’s in good company
33 games (7 as sub), 3 goals and 6 assists. It’s not bad considering, doesn’t deserve the bile he’s getting from some united fans. We all want better quality on the right flank but that’s not his problem
Take it and run
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Agreed. Place is full of clueless posters.
I think it all started when some dimwit over here invented the senseless brexit fc theory. The narrative put forward was that James was only signed cause he was British.
Eventually the same dimwits like @Schmeichel cartwheel stopped the brexit shit and turned their guns against British players who went through bad patches like Maguire, AWB , McTominay and James.
With fans like these who needs enemies..
Feel sorry for him. Unless we sign a RW doubt he will ever get much of a chance in his correct position. That is why in hindsight I suggested Leeds might have been the best option, not because they were in The Championship but that presumably the fact they were scouting him they realised he is a left sided player. The pressure of playing for Manchester United is immense and for a player who was going through different issues he needed all the help he could get. Not just an arm round him, but playing him where they could get the best out of him.
It seems like Roma wanted the initial loan fee to be considered as part of the transfer fee so that we lower the amount we're now asking.
I don't have an opinion on this specific point but would be interested to know what others think of it.
Does anyone else think that Dele Alli looks different all of a sudden? I've got this picture of a young lad in my mind, looking at him now he looks older all of a sudden.
I don't have an opinion on this specific point but would be interested to know what others think of it.
Does anyone else think that Dele Alli looks different all of a sudden? I've got this picture of a young lad in my mind, looking at him now he looks older all of a sudden.
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Hyperbole is sadly prevalent on here with our players we're moving on. If he does well, people will probably be complaining soon why we sold him. Likewise with Dalot and Phil Jones probably couldn't cut it in the Bostick league.
Or... final hammer from diabolical geniuses at Leeds who rip our heart out by reneging on the deal at the last minute knowing it'll completely feck us over?
I don't like this movie!
It's a trap!
Agreed, I feel sorry for him. By all accounts a nice lad, very professional and a good learner. But Ole has done him no favours putting him in the RW, a position with intense scrutiny from supporters because it’s been neglected for years. First season, his dad passed away & COVID interruption. I like Ole and I know he’s got limited options for the right but he’s destroyed the lads confidence before he’s really showed what he can do
He has a contract but we don’t want him, so what’s the point of keeping him then. Roma paid 3 million euros for the loan last season, and if it’s true they‘ve put in an offer for around 15 million euros that’s 18 million in total and we’re holding out for 20...Pointless, if we don’t want him just let him go.
I strongly disagree that we should just “put him in the bench and make him sht up”. Why would we want to be a club that treat our players like that. I’m all for club power over player power but in this case, when WE don’t want a player that’s been here for 10 years I think it’s stinks If we can’t make this deal with Roma. I also think Smalling was bought for 7-8 million Euros or something like that, so it’s not like we’re losing money on the deal.
If Ed and his negotiatingteam has problems closing that kind of deal I understand that there is problems with literally every deal we’re involved in. Which seem to be the case. You can’t just look at the numbers all the time, you also got to look at the situation overall and what kind of club we want to be.
United is becoming a laughing stock and why do we seem to have this much trouble buying AND selling players? The clubs image is really fallen to a new low. Sir Alex and Sir Matt Busby was not only great managers that got respected for their skills worldwide, they also got tons of respect for how they, and the people that helped them, were running the club. Players always wanted to come here and the ones that put in many years always got to leave on a good note, for the most part...We’re unfortunately heading further and further away from that. I realize that football has changed a lot and is more big business now than ever. But if we are a club that has no problem ruining the last couple of career years of a player that‘s been with us for ten years , I think we‘ve lost a bit of our heart and soul.
Very true. It’s tiring
Using his Dad dying as an ‘excuse’ is not a good look at all
His Dad passed away before he joined United. It wasn’t used as a reason for his good form at the start of the season. It shouldn’t be used as a reason for a slump in form now either.
Im sorry but thats a crock of shit.
Of course loosing his dad is gonna affect his wellbeing and mental health, especially in times when things arent going well.
Whether its aimed at players or journalists, i do find the level of hatred and animosity directed towards them for doing things that arent illegal / immoral somewhat depressing.
Right, so you only get affected by death immediately and never when things are tough and you’re in new surroundings and need that person more than you did before?
I am not directing any hatred or animosity towards him in anyway. I personally think it would be a travesty if we let him go permanently. I’d be disappointed if he wasn’t here at all this season.
I just think saying his poor form is down to his Dad dying in his first season at the club is wrong.
1. His Dad died before he even signed for us.
2. He started the season playing well.
yes a family member dying is extremely sad and will affect people but DJ is just a player out of form and seemingly a drop in confidence having been mismanaged in the last few months.
Finding excuses outside of that is a crock of shit IMO
Don’t be such a dick.
The message I initially replied to was wrong (Dad didn’t die in his first season). I’m not saying it doesn’t affect people at different times but people are too quick to try and find new/any excuse for things.
He’s a mismanaged player out of form, low on confidence and being asked to play out of position.
Shipping him would be fecking stupid
There’s no way that you can spin this to make it ok, disgusting take
Yeah, a dad dying doesn't impact you at all.
You're a complete and total fecking idiot.
Your post is equal parts vile and embarrassing. You should feel bad.
Always makes me laugh all the "He's Championship quality" guff. I saw one the other day about our subs bench being Championship level. Some folk have no clue at all, they clearly never watch any football other than the Premier League.
Insulting another member
where the feck did I say it doesn’t affect you at all????? Don’t be a moron.
I hope Daniel James goes on loan to Leeds. Will do his confidence the world of good playing week in and week out. Also the education he will get under Biesla will be priceless. Not every player in the squad needs to become a superstar, you need a blend. If he can become a consistant attacking threat then he has a long term future at Utd.
Not one i would like to see leave on a permanent deal.
Not one i would like to see leave on a permanent deal.
I’m not trying to spin anything at all.
Can you cnuts stop going on about Dan James’s dad and post some transfer Tweets?
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I don’t agree at all, grief comes and goes differently for everyone. Perhaps he was running on adrenaline early season. It’s a bit sucky to dismiss such circumstances
Pushing for a loan doesn't seem the greatest tactic to convince a player already struggling to join us.
Sounds like they want to assassinate him not sign him to play football.
It's honestly one of the worst takes I have ever seen on this site - and lots of people here were fighting for signing Kanoute over Rooney.
Recovering from a parent dying isn't a linear thing. The suggestion that "its not an excuse at the start of the season, so it shouldnt be after" is complete, and totally, idiotic.
Stop digging a hole and accept that what you've said above is vile and stupid, as many posters have correctly asserted to you already.
Anyway, moving on from that car crash of a take:
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Were gonna see Forsu-Mensa play about 25 games this season.
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I agree with this and think we should let him go. But I also understand the other side of the argument, we usually struggle to get a decent fee for our squad players, mostly due to wages, but this is different. Smalling has been a good player, doesn't quite fit how we want to play but had a bit of a resurgence last year and was one of the top defenders in Seria A. We have to find a middle ground of respecting the player and not getting fleeced.
On the positive it is a loan that actually worked. I hope Andreas and Dalot's loans help boost their value a bit so we can offload them next summer for more than we would have gotten this summer.
people moan when Liverpool sell their "deadwood" for decent prices and then want turn down 25 million for Dan James which exactly the reason why we can't.
James is of a similar level and profile to Solanke, Wilson, Brewster, Ibe but the difference is they will sell them while they're young and have value as they know they will never be first team material where as we hold on to them for years until all the potential has gone and nobody wants them.
James is pretty s**t by top four standards and we should be looking to get rid at a decent price asap.
James is of a similar level and profile to Solanke, Wilson, Brewster, Ibe but the difference is they will sell them while they're young and have value as they know they will never be first team material where as we hold on to them for years until all the potential has gone and nobody wants them.
James is pretty s**t by top four standards and we should be looking to get rid at a decent price asap.
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I’d hate to be Dan James reading this thread
Shame ah well. I hope he can have a better season
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