Shite way to treat De Gea. People have short memories and forget he’s been a runnaway standout player for us in various seasons, when all around him was shite.
Transfer Tweets - Manchester United - 2023/24
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I think this throws criticism on ETH unfairly, we do not know how much he was consulted prior to the contract extension being offered, I do not think this is a good way for the club to treat any player let alone one who has given so much service and loyalty to the club, but I suspect that it has more to do with Murtough and co not being able to organise a pee up in a brewery, and is symptomatic of the way thsi club has handled contracts, renewals and negotiations for too long, so maybe ETH is right to put his foot down
My view on this.
We offered this contract to David a while ago, we were planning to keep him as no1, but on reduced new contract.
He's delayed in signing that, and we have since made progress on signing Onana.
David has now decided to take our offer, and we have said erm this is awkward, but we can now only offer you a contract as a backup keeper, at a reduced rate.
It may suck how we are treating him, but there's no real nice way when we want to replace him, not paying 200k a week for a backup just to be nice.
We offered this contract to David a while ago, we were planning to keep him as no1, but on reduced new contract.
He's delayed in signing that, and we have since made progress on signing Onana.
David has now decided to take our offer, and we have said erm this is awkward, but we can now only offer you a contract as a backup keeper, at a reduced rate.
It may suck how we are treating him, but there's no real nice way when we want to replace him, not paying 200k a week for a backup just to be nice.
Eh...normal people don't speak like that. It would make sense if it said 'it is possibly not convenient for United to complete any signings until after June 30'
Yeah, the wording is very interesting. Luckhurst mentioned a while back that there was only an agreement on broad terms but never a total agreement from both sides. My guess is that de Gea agreed on the broad terms a while back and was waiting for a formal offer to sign, but he didn't get one from the club. He then eventually got an updated preliminary offer from us with a less valuable overall package, and now he's unwilling to accept that.
I don't think there was ever a formal agreement from de Gea, more so an agreement on the broad terms that de Gea thought was a "done deal". This is similar to the broad agreement we had with Barcelona on Frenkie de Jong last summer, which allowed Laporta to state that he never accepted a formal offer for Frenkie last summer.
EDIT: Never mind; there was a formal agreement from de Gea as he did indeed put his signature in, but then the club backed out of the whole deal. It looks like they were convinced by de Gea's form, and then his poorer moments started to come to the fore, which resulted in the club re-evaluating de Gea.
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Funny isn't it. Rabiot now gets to stay at Juventus on 7m Euros net a season playing Conference League (if they don't get kicked out) instead of earning similar, a signing on fee and playing CL.
No ignore me, I didn’t realise we’d offered an even lower contract. We’re just dumb.
I love the man. He was great for us over many seasons.
Doesn't escape the fact he delayed signing a contract to see what his options were (no problem with that he's has earned that right.) So united had to act if he had of just said stuff it im leaving on the last day and they had no backup plan everyone would be saying united are amateurs etc. Looks like they have a plan for a new number one.
Damned if they do damned if they don't.
She's a bleedin looper, if that's true What's he on at Juve?
I think i read that Juve's renewal offer was ~7m/yr net. They just might be trying to rip us off, assuming we are desperate
People have criticised and questioned our business around transfers and salaries for years. Wanting us to be more ruthless. Now when we are, the same people are unhappy for us bringing the ruthlessness.
I love it. We need to get rid of the "United tax" and be ruthless in these type of dealings.
I love it. We need to get rid of the "United tax" and be ruthless in these type of dealings.
agreed - we need to really take a hardline stance this window, it'll take a while to undo years of shitty negotiation from Ed Woodward & co
The problem is it tends to get later and later in the window, we end up panicking and get 2nd, 3rd or even 4th choice targets at ridiculous prices. And so the cycle continues.
It will take some time, but word travels fast. We will lose out some targets, but in the end it will be worth it.
I think we will see a very different approach and outcome this window. The cycle is about to be broken imo.
Being ruthless wouldn't have resulted in him being offered two contracts in the first place. If this is what we call ruthlessness then we're not very good at it, as it appears indecisive and a bit lucky.
What? So being ruthless now means not offering a contract at all?
How about being interested in a player but then not baulking at demands.Going back in to see if they’re still interested but more open to actually negotiating this time due to him being a free agent. Then still not baulking at demands. Sounds quite ruthless to me & pretty darn decisive as well.
Accepting the terms and signing anyway, now that would be silly.
I think the tweet is not referring to Man City.
They wanted 400k per week? Have fun in the conference league.
Greedy but once again don’t blame anyone talking to United that asks for the ridiculous. I think it will happen with everyone we attempt to sign in one way or the other. We will overpay just within budget or we sign no one, hopefully with new owners in, this farce will eventually change and we’ll become more respected in the transfer market.
Scummy of the club, he deserves a lot better.
But does he? Maybe I am biased because of how much he obviously wanted away, especially during the run in towards the end of the first season under van Gaal where I feel like he phoned it in massively.
Is it the greatest? No but this isn't a massive affront to a club legend (which I don't believe he is) this is a professional sports team making a decision in its.best interest.
I dont know why you all are shitting on Murtough and Arnold. They are still new, learning on the job. Give them some time(like a decade) and we will be well run like Man City.
This transfer window is feckin grim already.
Entitled much?
Don't know why everyone is on edge about this window. We signed a 12 year old left back from Watford.
It’s not just the Tweets mate, many eminent Caftards have passed JUDGEMENT from on high.
The club is a DISGRACE
etc, etc….
That's the spirit, instead of doom and gloom, lets be happy with what we have got already.
Plenty of time yet to make some huge transfers.
Think he can play striker?
I wouldn't bother. This guy thought we were in for Mount and Caicedo. He's not very objective when it comes to our transfer dealings and I'm being generous.
Claiming it’s a “disaster” already is incredibly ridiculous. Stinks of a “shiny new toy” mindset.
Never said a 'disaster'. Said it was grim.
I can see that now, won't waste my time.
Same difference
preseason for non internationals starts in 6 days
If between the time the contract was offered and me deciding to sign it I mucked up a fair few times costing the company, then it wouldn't be much of a surprise to be fair.
Sounds like poor planning to me. Not sure how offering a given salary then reducing it a few months or weeks later is decisive. We learned nothing new about DDG towards the end of this season.
The biggest issue to me is that the club thought offering DDG a contract of 150k to 200k a week was a good idea in the first place.
Accepting the terms would also be silly, even more silly but just because the desired outcome is better doesn't mean it's decisive or ruthless, certainly not for me anyway.
Hang on…you’re talking about DDG?
I thought (judging from what you quoted) we were talking about Rabiot
Mount 55m
Onana 50m
Höjlund 50m
We would still need to sell to finance those 3 buys. And we would enter the season without a reliable no 9. City won't fear us that is for sure.
Onana 50m
Höjlund 50m
We would still need to sell to finance those 3 buys. And we would enter the season without a reliable no 9. City won't fear us that is for sure.