I'm pretty high in the predictions league here so it is a good bet more often than notI swear you predict us to win every game comfortably!
United - Soton | EFL Cup Final Build-up Thread
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
*reports duffer for tall people abuse*
Text the word "feckoff" to 56476.
Behave. I'd have Mata and Rashford ahead of Rooney in the starting line up any day of the week. Thankfully the manager agrees too.
What if the taller guy stands up prematurely to celebrate a goal and you missed seeing the goal? You couldn't really report him for that.
Ha, I wish I shared your optimism. It's very rare we win comfortably in a final. Off the top of my head I can only remember us doing so twice. Against Millwall in the '04 FA cup, and Newcastle in '99.I'm pretty high in the predictions league here so it is a good bet more often than not
Well, no. Of course not.
You don't have to spend the entire 90 minutes sat down, you just can't stand for the whole game and ruin some poor fecker behind you's day.
I've told people to sit down and been told to sit down at football matches by the way, all part of the fun (don't think I'd ever grass someone up unless they were right in front of a kid and didn't listen to me)/
Wasn't going to drink with this - decided to go to the pub with my brother. Got nerves already.
If Carrick starts, Rooney does not and vis a versa. Unless Mkhitaryan is fit, then he would start over Rooney I think.
I have Carrick starting with Rooney as a sub. Leaving Mkhitaryan out, don't think the rumors are true and don't think Jose would rush him back for this.
I have Carrick starting with Rooney as a sub. Leaving Mkhitaryan out, don't think the rumors are true and don't think Jose would rush him back for this.
In the context of a cup final, atmosphere is one thing but when you're at a neutral ground with your young nieces and nephews and a large group of abusive, drunken feckers in the 3rd row won't sit down, it's nice to have a discreet resource like this.
Our most important game of the season so far. We need to win this cup so this can be a springboard for more success for the rest of the season, as Jose has said. We are still in the Europa League, FA Cup and in contention for Top 4 so a league cup win will give the team the self-belief to go on to achieve more silverware. Another great incentive is also the record of being the most successful English football club, us winning the League Cup would bring our total silverware to 42, 1 ahead of Liverpool.
You could also say he has never won a final in extra time. Let's get it done in the 90 minutes.
That's encouraging @RedMaestro but we as a club seem to prefer winning the hard way. 
That's because we haven't been good, or concentrated, enough. Controversial opinion perhaps but even our famed counter-attacking, though exciting no doubt, stems from being under pressure in matches. We've rarely ever punched above our weight - hopefully, this will change in the near-future.
Five goalkeepers travelled
Five United goalkeepers have travelled down to London.
One of them - Joel Pereira - is injured and even Mkhitaryan was on the team coach. Don’t expect a Lazarus act from Mkhitaryan. Mourinho has taken 28 players down to London to signal each player’s importance, whether they are Zlatan Ibrahimovic or Kieran O’Hara.
It’s good man-management, particularly when you contrast it to Van Gaal’s handling of the squad for last year’s Cup final.
The cut players, such as Memphis, Cameron Borthwick-Jackson and Timothy Fosu-Mensah, had to make their own way down to Wembley separately and the on the day of the game.
The squad coach was reserved for the 18 squad players.
Five United goalkeepers have travelled down to London.
One of them - Joel Pereira - is injured and even Mkhitaryan was on the team coach. Don’t expect a Lazarus act from Mkhitaryan. Mourinho has taken 28 players down to London to signal each player’s importance, whether they are Zlatan Ibrahimovic or Kieran O’Hara.
It’s good man-management, particularly when you contrast it to Van Gaal’s handling of the squad for last year’s Cup final.
The cut players, such as Memphis, Cameron Borthwick-Jackson and Timothy Fosu-Mensah, had to make their own way down to Wembley separately and the on the day of the game.
The squad coach was reserved for the 18 squad players.
How did Van Gaal handle the cup final squad last season?
Think that is what they are saying. He took 18 players and that was it. The rest had to make their own way there. Jose has taken all of them, injured or not to be a part of the day, which is nice.
Unlucky ten
Assuming Phil Jones isn’t fit, the ten watching from the stands are likely to be:
Assuming Phil Jones isn’t fit, the ten watching from the stands are likely to be:
- Kieran O’Hara
- Axel Tuanzebe
- Dean Henderson
- Timothy Fosu-Mensah
- Bastian Schweinsteiger
- Luke Shaw
- Matteo Darmian
- Henrikh Mkhitaryan (inj)
- Joel Pereira (inj)
- Phil Jones (inj)
Oh right. Thanks. Cup final should be a day out for everyone, involved and for Luke Shaw
Mourinho has won 10 out of 12.
Mourinho's record in cup finals
Club Opponent Cup Season Result
FC Porto - Celtic UEFA Cup 2002/03 W 3-2
FC Porto - Leiria Taça de Portugal 2002/03 W 1-0
FC Porto - Benfica Taça de Portugal 2003/04 L 1-2 (AET)
FC Porto - Monaco UCL 2003/04 W 3-0
Chelsea - Liverpool League Cup 2004/05 W 3-2
Chelsea - Arsenal League Cup 2006/07 W 2-1
Chelsea - Man Utd FA Cup 2006/07 W 1-0
Inter Milan - Roma Coppa Italia 2009/10 W 1-0
Inter Milan - Bayern Munich UCL 2009/10 W 2-0
Real Madrid - Barcelona Copa del Rey 2010/11 W 1-0
Real Madrid - Atletico Madrid Copa del Rey 2012/13 L 1-2 (AET)
Chelsea - Tottenham League Cup 2014/15 W 2-0
Mourinho has never lost a final in normal time.
This is extremely impressive and this is exactly what Jose is all about, he lives and breathes for moments like this. I was watching MUTV and when he was asked by the interviewer about how he feels ahead of the League Cup Final, "I just want to play, I can't wait." says it all.
On the flip side, I would feel worried if we do go into extra-time. I know the sample size is too small but the 2 finals he lost were in extra-time so, if we do go into extra-time...
Not just Mourinho with good stats...This is extremely impressive and this is exactly what Jose is all about, he lives and breathes for moments like this. I was watching MUTV and when he was asked by the interviewer about how he feels ahead of the League Cup Final, "I just want to play, I can't wait." says it all.
On the flip side, I would feel worried if we do go into extra-time. I know the sample size is too small but the 2 finals he lost were in extra-time so, if we do go into extra-time...
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The Celtic game went into extra time in 2003.Mourinho has won 10 out of 12.
Mourinho's record in cup finals
Club Opponent Cup Season Result
FC Porto - Celtic UEFA Cup 2002/03 W 3-2
FC Porto - Leiria Taça de Portugal 2002/03 W 1-0
FC Porto - Benfica Taça de Portugal 2003/04 L 1-2 (AET)
FC Porto - Monaco UCL 2003/04 W 3-0
Chelsea - Liverpool League Cup 2004/05 W 3-2
Chelsea - Arsenal League Cup 2006/07 W 2-1
Chelsea - Man Utd FA Cup 2006/07 W 1-0
Inter Milan - Roma Coppa Italia 2009/10 W 1-0
Inter Milan - Bayern Munich UCL 2009/10 W 2-0
Real Madrid - Barcelona Copa del Rey 2010/11 W 1-0
Real Madrid - Atletico Madrid Copa del Rey 2012/13 L 1-2 (AET)
Chelsea - Tottenham League Cup 2014/15 W 2-0
Mourinho has never lost a final in normal time.
This is extremely impressive and this is exactly what Jose is all about, he lives and breathes for moments like this. I was watching MUTV and when he was asked by the interviewer about how he feels ahead of the League Cup Final, "I just want to play, I can't wait." says it all.
On the flip side, I would feel worried if we do go into extra-time. I know the sample size is too small but the 2 finals he lost were in extra-time so, if we do go into extra-time...
Fake news
Liverpool 2-3 Chelsea
(after extra-time - score at 90 mins 1-1)
Didier Drogba and Mateja Kezman scored in extra-time to give Chelsea victory in a pulsating Carling Cup final.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/league_cup/4279679.stm
Pretty sure that Mata has an outstanding record in cup finals too.
1 out of 3Mourinho has won 10 out of 12.
Mourinho's record in cup finals
Club Opponent Cup Season Result
FC Porto - Celtic UEFA Cup 2002/03 W 3-2
FC Porto - Leiria Taça de Portugal 2002/03 W 1-0
FC Porto - Benfica Taça de Portugal 2003/04 L 1-2 (AET)
FC Porto - Monaco UCL 2003/04 W 3-0
Chelsea - Liverpool League Cup 2004/05 W 3-2
Chelsea - Arsenal League Cup 2006/07 W 2-1
Chelsea - Man Utd FA Cup 2006/07 W 1-0 (AET)
Inter Milan - Roma Coppa Italia 2009/10 W 1-0
Inter Milan - Bayern Munich UCL 2009/10 W 2-0
Real Madrid - Barcelona Copa del Rey 2010/11 W 1-0
Real Madrid - Atletico Madrid Copa del Rey 2012/13 L 1-2 (AET)
Chelsea - Tottenham League Cup 2014/15 W 2-0
Mourinho has never lost a final in normal time.
This is extremely impressive and this is exactly what Jose is all about, he lives and breathes for moments like this. I was watching MUTV and when he was asked by the interviewer about how he feels ahead of the League Cup Final, "I just want to play, I can't wait." says it all.
On the flip side, I would feel worried if we do go into extra-time. I know the sample size is too small but the 2 finals he lost were in extra-time so, if we do go into extra-time...
Anyone know any decent way of watching this in Spain?
OK so that's Celtic Porto, 2005 Chelsea Liverpool and 2007 Chelsea United for games he's won in extra timeMourinho has won 10 out of 12.
Mourinho's record in cup finals
Club Opponent Cup Season Result
FC Porto - Celtic UEFA Cup 2002/03 W 3-2
FC Porto - Leiria Taça de Portugal 2002/03 W 1-0
FC Porto - Benfica Taça de Portugal 2003/04 L 1-2 (AET)
FC Porto - Monaco UCL 2003/04 W 3-0
Chelsea - Liverpool League Cup 2004/05 W 3-2
Chelsea - Arsenal League Cup 2006/07 W 2-1
Chelsea - Man Utd FA Cup 2006/07 W 1-0
Inter Milan - Roma Coppa Italia 2009/10 W 1-0
Inter Milan - Bayern Munich UCL 2009/10 W 2-0
Real Madrid - Barcelona Copa del Rey 2010/11 W 1-0
Real Madrid - Atletico Madrid Copa del Rey 2012/13 L 1-2 (AET)
Chelsea - Tottenham League Cup 2014/15 W 2-0
Mourinho has never lost a final in normal time.
This is extremely impressive and this is exactly what Jose is all about, he lives and breathes for moments like this. I was watching MUTV and when he was asked by the interviewer about how he feels ahead of the League Cup Final, "I just want to play, I can't wait." says it all.
On the flip side, I would feel worried if we do go into extra-time. I know the sample size is too small but the 2 finals he lost were in extra-time so, if we do go into extra-time...
On a beach with a sangria?
Won't be on Spanish TV as far as I know...
Absolutely no way should Rooney be anywhere near the starting 11. There's so many other alternatives rather than him starting on top of the 3 you quote, he's lucky to be in the match Day squad at all.
Mourinho following van Gaal lead
It’s understood United’s players were informed of their squad roles for the final two days ago, which is what Louis van Gaal did for last year’s FA Cup final.
Rio Ferdinand used to complain David Moyes’ team selections drove him ‘mad’ and England players were belatedly told of their roles by Fabio Capello.
Players like to be mollycoddled but it’s logical to tell them if they’re in or out in advance just for the benefit of a restful night’s sleep before a match.
It’s understood United’s players were informed of their squad roles for the final two days ago, which is what Louis van Gaal did for last year’s FA Cup final.
Rio Ferdinand used to complain David Moyes’ team selections drove him ‘mad’ and England players were belatedly told of their roles by Fabio Capello.
Players like to be mollycoddled but it’s logical to tell them if they’re in or out in advance just for the benefit of a restful night’s sleep before a match.
Jose might play Rooney from the start, if only to keep Wayne happy before his summer exit.
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Hahahaha.
Now I see Wayne scoring, lifting one of two trophies for the season and then riding into the Chinese sunset with Coleen clutching that bagful of pounds.
Are we in home strip?
No way Jose would do this